toasterman3000 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Maxwell says that the Ancient Guardian was changed by nightmare fuel, but what was it originally? Based on its fur, general body shape, and feet, I'd say that it could have actually been a Chester originally. The fact that a chest spawns when it dies supports this idea.On the other hand, everything in the ruins was apparently there before anything on the surface was created. It also wouldn't make much sense for Chester to be a guardian of anything. What do you guys think? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemonic Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Probably just something that lived deep in the caves and soaked up/drank too much Nightmare Fuel Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARamblingSpider Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Probably just something that lived deep in the caves and soaked up/drank too much Nightmare FuelIt's bad to binge drink on Nightmare fuel, can rot your teeth out. oh yeah and mutate you into a giant monster also. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemonic Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 It's bad to binge drink on Nightmare fuel, can rot your teeth out. oh yeah and mutate you into a giant monster also.True, I had a pet baby tentacle and I poured nightmare fuel over it for fun... now he is Cthulhu e_e... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percival Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 It's bad to binge drink on Nightmare fuel, can rot your teeth out. oh yeah and mutate you into a giant monster also. High Octane or Diesel Nightmare Fuel? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battal Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I think the Guardian is just a large rhino, and that Maxwell is simply confused or drunk. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemonic Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I think the Guardian is just a large rhino, and that Maxwell is simply confused or drunk.I like this idea, but dat fuel doe... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 NO SENSE FOR CHESTER TO BE A GUARDIAN OF ANYTHING?!?!?!Well, Chester is our beloved, kind overlord who watches our every movement and protects us all from the dangers of the world. Talk to our friend @the truthseeker for more information on Our Fuzziness. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
23rd Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Based on its fur, general body shape, and feet, I'd say that it could have actually been a Chester originally. The fact that a chest spawns when it dies supports this idea...this is actually kind of brilliant. I've always figured everything down there, if filtered to look like it did before the fall of whatever civilization inhabited the place, would have heavy Mesoamerican influence, or at least something that could be described as tribal. Perhaps a once benevolent figure that the ancients revered as a god, indirectly affected by the heavy pollution in the Ruins caused by overuse of Nightmare Fuel? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battal Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I like this idea, but dat fuel doe...Think about it. The Guardian doesn't have any abilities other than that of a rhino. And Maxwell smokes a lot. Maybe it's brain cancer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemonic Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Think about it. The Guardian doesn't have any abilities other than that of a rhino. And Maxwell smokes a lot. Maybe it's brain cancer.True, but think about , the shadow monsters MADE from the stuff can only bite you and teleport when damaged. It is clearly the model for one of the robots that Maxwell references as his creations means he must have known it was down there and seen it, and probably watched it become what it is when the player encounters it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percival Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Think about it. The Guardian doesn't have any abilities other than that of a rhino. And Maxwell smokes a lot. Maybe it's brain cancer. I shall photoshop that. Edit: Too lazy. Someone photoshop the 'Gentleman' Meme and we're good to go. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
23rd Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Think about it. The Guardian doesn't have any abilities other than that of a rhino. And Maxwell smokes a lot. Maybe it's brain cancer.I say we just bring this pony full circle and throw in the theory that Don't Starve is just one of JoeW's hazy afternoon pipe fantasies. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadpanQuinkan Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 True, but think about , the shadow monsters MADE from the stuff can only bite you and teleport when damaged. It is clearly the model for one of the robots that Maxwell references as his creations means he must have known it was down there and seen it, and probably watched it become what it is when the player encounters it.Still don't know how your getting that connection. The Guardian can't teleport and is a solid fuzzy beast. The robo-rhino was based off of him ... but that has no connection to nightmare fuel. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemonic Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Still don't know how your getting that connection. The Guardian can't teleport and is a solid fuzzy beast. The robo-rhino was based off of him ... but that has no connection to nightmare fuel. My point was, Maxwell knew about it, and probably saw how it came to be considering he was most likely on the throne at the time so he would KNOW nightmare fuel made it. Also, about the teleporting and being solid, those are the only thing differentiating it from sanity monsters (unless of course you want to nitpick and say the fact it is a GIANT RHINO, but besides that...) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadpanQuinkan Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 My point was, Maxwell knew about it, and probably saw how it came to be considering he was most likely on the throne at the time so he would KNOW nightmare fuel made it. Also, about the teleporting and being solid, those are the only thing differentiating it from sanity monsters (unless of course you want to nitpick and say the fact it is a GIANT RHINO, but besides that...)Maxwell says that, but I find it's just one of the harder theories to believe. Nightmare fuel seems like this rather evil corruptive substance yet the Guardian doesn't seem to reflect that visually or physically. It's a creature that doesn't have an insanity aura and drop's non-monster meat. There is probably a piece to this puzzle that's missing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemonic Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Maxwell says that, but I find it's just one of the harder theories to believe. Nightmare fuel seems like this rather evil corruptive substance yet the Guardian doesn't seem to reflect that visually or physically. It's a creature that doesn't have an insanity aura and drop's non-monster meat. There is probably a piece to this puzzle that's missing.Well, think about it, it has a chest inside it and functions normally... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 NO SENSE FOR CHESTER TO BE A GUARDIAN OF ANYTHING?!?!?!Well, Chester is our beloved, kind overlord who watches our every movement and protects us all from the dangers of the world. Talk to our friend @the truthseeker for more information on Our Fuzziness.We love and obey you our Overlord! Oh, and the Nightmare Fuel most likely just made the Guardian chargingly-lethal-at-everything insane but didn't warp him (much.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yeah, he was probably an Ancient Guardian BEFORE the nightmare fuel got to him, he might've just been a rhinoceros. Or maybe he was the last of his kind and he was just related to the rhinoceros. Or maybe, considering what nightmare fuel can do, he might've been something COMPLETELY different and unrelated to what he is now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battal Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Well, think about it, it has a chest inside it and functions normally...Maybe Thulecite chests are tasty. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwerBomb Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Maybe the Guardian is just a Clockwork Castle that was mutated by nightmere fuel into a Rihno. Don't ask me how he became organic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilleniumCount Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Don't ask me how he became organic.By eating many, many beans! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Crow Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 or maybe it used to be like the size of the rook.it grows bigger. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-402498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemonic Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 or maybe it used to be like the size of the rook.it grows bigger.I could actually see that happening, it might have been the Ancient races version of cats or dogs xD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-403256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-_-_ Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Finally a puzzle thread!!!What bothers me is that in the ruins, one of the chairs that you find inthe rubble is oddly modern. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/30857-ancient-guardian-origins/#findComment-403281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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