Imyo Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Well, hello, first of all i want you to know my english isnt the best, so i hope you understand my point. Willow is not only a "bad" character, shes also useless in terms of enjoyment, for example you can pick Wes and say you ll survive a certain amount of days with the worst character, and thats cool because its a challenge, and he also have some funny ballons to play with. Willow's perk 1) Inmmune to fire, useless in 99% of the game. Willow's perk 2) Lighter, ok this can be usefull maybe to harvest at night your entire farms while alt-tabbed, watching a stream or doing some stuff on internet, but thats it, torches are so cheap and have better light radious, so if you are actually playing the game you ll never have an advantaje with your lighter. Willow's perk 3) Sanity boost when standing near fire, its just TOO low, basicaly nothing. Willow's stats: 150HP, 150Hunger, 120Sanity. Why ? why so little sanity, shes already a bad character, this only forces you to pay attention to the sanity meter to avoid the random fire due to "low" sanity. So, after all this, there is no point in playing her, shes not fun, shes not good, shes not even the challenging character (Wes), she is just boring. Maybe players like me who wants to play her just for the looks or because we love the fact that shes related with fire, or any other stuff, i think we deserve a better character, not an op one, just give her something to make her fun to play. Options i think can work: 1) Higher sanity, higher sanity boost when standing near fire. 2) Hability to gain sanity when burning things in your inventory. 3) Hability to damage mobs burning things in your inventory (like an aoe). 4) Higher fire dmg with darts. (this could be really fun) 5) Some kind of empowering, while standing near fire for a certain amount of time, like a heat stone, like WX hability, speed or something similar. 6) Maybe healing effect from standing near fire. 7) Fire dmg with the lighter. 8) Craftable fire traps. 9) Better gunpowder dmg. Well, those are just random options i think can improve the gameplay experience with Willow as a cool and fun character, of course not all at once or she ll be the next op WX. I hope you dont hate me for this thread, understand i just want a fun Willow to play, i played the other characters for too long, and Willow seems like a waste of character slot. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudeNamedEvan Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I do not agree, willow (for me) is the best character. but you are right with the lighter. but what will you do when you have no light equipment in the ruins and the splumonkeys steal your lantern (this happened to me) and you can use the map to get out and the lighter to scare charlie Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosten Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Maybe have her conserve heat better in the winter,Make her be able to cook on burning objects Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyo Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Maybe have her conserve heat better in the winter,Make her be able to cook on burning objectsThose are great ideas too! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Willow fans saying she's the best character are like console players saying 720p, 30fps is better than 1080p, 60fps Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudeNamedEvan Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 HEY I like her Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 HEY I like herBut she's not the best character. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudeNamedEvan Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 ill give you that Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I definitely agree that Willow's abilities are rather lackluster. Probably the most interesting thing about her is her low max sanity with a greater penalty for having low sanity. And that's a disadvantage. There's nothing really exciting and unique you can do with this character. Here're some ideas I may or may not have posted before: -Allow Willow to craft campfires and torches without grass -Make her set enemies on fire with attacks (this could easily be a disadvantage if done wrong) -Make her gain sanity from lighting things, not from standing next to fire However, having said that, I'm not sure that the devs intend to balance Willow by changing her abilities. Originally, the fire immunity was supposed to become more useful when lava caves and heat waves were added, but neither one of those happened. Maybe they're planning on adding them in the DLC and are leaving Willow as is until then. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I wonder what Xjurwi is thinking of this thread right now.Or, at least, what he will think. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Q_ Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Willow is OP, no grue, infinite fire source, very easy to recover sanity. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 no grue Has Willow been changed since the last time I played? As far as I know, Willow gets attacked by the night monster, the same as everyone else. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aredshroom Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Has Willow been changed since the last time I played? As far as I know, Willow gets attacked by the night monster, the same as everyone else.I think Q meant she has her lighter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I think Q meant she has her lighter. Oh, okay. I didn't think _Q_ meant that because that would be covered by 'infinite light source.' Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARamblingSpider Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I wonder what Xjurwi is thinking of this thread right now.Or, at least, what he will think.Mostly I like here quotes and her design, But personally I don't think she is the best player But She's definitely up there. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I don't think she should have more sanity, since she is supposed to be a bit nuts. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29981-willow-usefullness/#findComment-378969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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