Deurus Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 13 hours ago, Kondr_ said: I do think No. 1) they are (chess) really powerful 2.a) 2 of each like in chess is good (polished?) idea, while 2.b) 1-slot gamma is easy-coded and not-so-gamma. Looks like max-chess was first and then they came up with new gamma circuit At first i was not pushing spatializer circuit as gamma circuit. Now with the chessmaster introduction as the only one single slot circuit makes me realize that it makes 0 sense has a gamma circuit. All bonuses are cool but theyre just passives, the only thing thats its not, is the ability to directlty repair clockworks without have to electrocute them first. Switching their categories would make them more consistent. Alpha (stats bonus), Beta (always active abilities), Gamma (abilities that require player interaction) 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeNibble Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 47 minutes ago, Deurus said: At first i was not pushing spatializer circuit as gamma circuit. Now with the chessmaster introduction as the only one single slot circuit makes me realize that it makes 0 sense has a gamma circuit. All bonuses are cool but theyre just passives, the only thing thats its not, is the ability to directlty repair clockworks without have to electrocute them first. Switching their categories would make them more consistent. Alpha (stats bonus), Beta (always active abilities), Gamma (abilities that require player interaction) I like chessmaster as gamma. The division you propose sounds annoying and worse to me Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deurus Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 20 minutes ago, OrangeNibble said: I like chessmaster as gamma. The division you propose sounds annoying and worse to me The Division its what we currently have, The chessmaster circuit its the exception of what (mostly) circuits do in their respective category. And I'm aware that this will eliminate a cool combination of circuits to rush ruins like 1x Speed + 1x Optoelectronic (nightvision) and we Dont want that; a simple solution would be just add and extra "Active" effect for the The chessmaster circuit to make it more appealing in the gamma category. Edited April 26 by Deurus 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 11 minutes ago, OrangeNibble said: I like chessmaster as gamma. The division you propose sounds annoying and worse to me this is the official division of the circuits 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINOTAKO Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, Deurus said: アルファ(ステータスボーナス)、 ベータ(常時発動の能力)、 ガンマ(プレイヤーの操作が必要な能力) When I first saw the Gamma circuits, I realized that while Alpha and Beta functioned as a build system for the chassis parts, Gamma was essentially a build system for the control panel buttons. It fit the robot theme perfectly and felt like the true next phase of robot building. I was deeply impressed by this groundbreaking idea and had been eagerly looking forward to it. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeNibble Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, doritosdamafia said: this is the official division of the circuits Is it, where is it official? I think gamma is just capabilities. Not active abilities, but capabilities: the ability to spin, the ability to digest rot, the ability to recruit more chess pieces seems fine. Alpha is core stats (health, hunger, sanity) Beta is mainly modifications to non-core stats (temperature, speed), with some other stuff thrown in (light, vision, electric). Gamma is new / altered capabilities. I think the chess master circuit being gamma is the correct choice. It competes with spin circuit in a nice way. I think it would be way worse in beta. It would be kinda of interesting in alpha (get more followers at the cost of your own stats) but I think gamma is the correct choice. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHe_silent_H Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 hours ago, VaskalRascal said: You mean a spell book component? I don't think WX-78 needs one of those. All of their skills are very straight forward. try having both circuits slotted at the same time and trying to use the one you want to use, or worse in a chaotic fight with a boss with your team and you want to redirect aggro onto you with the blocking circuit to let your low hp friend heal in fix their armour and clicking the wrong thing causing them to die as you can only select yourself to activate Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 On 4/25/2026 at 8:36 AM, Deurus said: Not sure if you guys know this mod G10MM-3R from the autor @<default> but what if inserting a Possessed Shadow Atrium, allows Drones to automatically pick anything: Pick up various inventory items (uncooked food and resources) Pick resources like Grass, Saplings, Berries, etc. Harvest Bee Boxes/Farms/Meat Racks. They already can do this. Idk about bee boxes 18 hours ago, Navras said: lunar bodies are already weaker than Maxwell's minions and Wurt's merms.................................................................... Stronger than Maxwell minions (which they should be). Merms are just merms 17 hours ago, HA LO said: V2C, don’t you think players rely too much on the Night Vision and Speed circuits, which leads to a rigid build for WX-78? The core issue is that these two circuits are simply too strong. I think the total bonus from three Speed circuits should be reduced. Also, change the Night Vision circuit so that after activation, it drains one unit of charge per minute. This way, it could also synergize with the faster charge recovery skill. I think this is a good idea. the Nightvision circuit was made much weaker by the light circuit 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argwarn Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Ok zaptrocuter minions go crazy,really good combat power Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrec Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 24 minutes ago, Argwarn said: Ok zaptrocuter minions go crazy,really good combat power Them stunning enemies with the zap drone is probably a bug that will get fix 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 On 4/25/2026 at 12:33 PM, DaZoul said: yes, when the year of the clockwork knight ended, regular characters can only get 2 of each type. WX can have 3 of each type by base, but can be further enhanced with that circuit. is that true tho, cause I hired at least 10 of them earlier before WX update i shocked them and all Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Frosty_Mentos said: is that true tho, cause I hired at least 10 of them earlier before WX update i shocked them and all well, it's in the live update post https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170919-the-wx-78-skill-spotlight-update-is-now-mostly-available/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: is that true tho, cause I hired at least 10 of them earlier before WX update i shocked them and all Well you CAN befriend as many as you wish, but any that go over the limit will enter standby mode and fall asleep. They won't fight for you unless a spot empties up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxgrove pigeon Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) So people mention 2 things. • New affinity is not thematic enough • Spatializer to gamma I get the first one. But, the original shadow affinity was looking not so good. It only spawned a little shadow hand to collect things, and If we separate this skill effect alone without telling you, will you recognize who’s affinity skill this is? I would be thinking this was for Maxwell. Yes, it is a good shadow affinity effect, but not for WX. The new drones are better-looking for WX-78, but it doesn’t feel like a shadow affinity. They literally replaced his Emotion module with the Shadow material, and those drones feel like a common technology. I am sure that only few animation changes(I don’t know, maybe some rose vine?) will nail it to be thematic enough, and I love the change so far. About Spatializer for gamma, This is nothing but joke. Gamma circuit should be active, and be about mimicing one of the monsters. Digest less like Catcoon, Spin like Mosling, Block like Slurtle, and Behave like gear chesspiece to be one of them. Spatializer doesn’t work like that. If you really want an extra 1pin circuit other than the new chess one, It should be the rangeboost one. Enhancing optical condition makes more sense cuz It always happens and drone-control is considered as active skill too. Edited April 27 by Foxgrove pigeon 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 On 4/24/2026 at 6:16 PM, V2C said: Fixed an issue with reviving players sliding. Nooooo! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeyeeee Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 First of all, thank you for creating the skill tree for the robot. I'm a player who really likes WX-78. Currently, the design of the Shadow Affinity drone may not have met expectations, as the current Shadow Affinity seems more troublesome and weaker compared to the original version. I'm curious about the strength of the robot you envisioned during the design process. In my opinion, a 1.25 damage multiplier would allow the Golden Axe to kill a spider in three hits and the Pickaxe to kill a hound in three hits, which would be a great combat improvement. Unfortunately, it's now only 1.2. In the later stages of the game, when many monsters have special defenses, is a 1.2 physical damage multiplier a bit low? Maybe we could get more drones or corresponding Shadow damage. Originally, WX78 could enjoy a stable damage multiplier in group battles, but now the conditions are much more demanding. So, will there be any balancing measures? For example, allowing teammates to also benefit from the drone's effects or having more stable drone scans. The emergency recharge effect that consumes Nightmare Fuel is great, but in actual use, there aren't many scenarios where it's needed. It would be nice if a fully charged battery could provide other benefits.(Machine translation) 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeyeeee Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 In the game, creatures affected by the moon will acquire some special abilities related to the moon, which makes them stronger. Perhaps the Possesed Chassis can consume glass shards or other materials related to the moon to gain enhancements or recover.(Machine translation) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeyeeee Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 在游戏中,受月亮影响的生物会获得与月亮相关的特殊能力,使它们更强大。也许附身者可以消耗玻璃碎片或其他与月亮相关的材料来获得强化或恢复。(机器翻译) Edited April 27 by Joeyeeee Due to network fluctuations, I accidentally sent this message twice by mistake. I'm sorry. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ev1l Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 On 4/25/2026 at 9:47 PM, Mysterious box said: The shadows doing stuff for you directly didn't make sense like why would they do that and why wouldn't they do it for other characters? In the case of Winona it makes sense because it's her sister helping her but in the case of Wx why does connecting shadow items do this? In the case of the drones it seems visually apparent they are powered by shadow energies and machines have been connected to shadow as well. Sure Wagstaff has made machines part of lunar side but clockworks the main machine mob have always been associated with shadows and the ruins. They could have swapped the animation for a tentacle/atrium vein grabbing it for you and bringing it back and that issue would be fixed tbh. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duds_gd Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 7 hours ago, Joeyeeee said: First of all, thank you for creating the skill tree for the robot. I'm a player who really likes WX-78. Currently, the design of the Shadow Affinity drone may not have met expectations, as the current Shadow Affinity seems more troublesome and weaker compared to the original version. I'm curious about the strength of the robot you envisioned during the design process. In my opinion, a 1.25 damage multiplier would allow the Golden Axe to kill a spider in three hits and the Pickaxe to kill a hound in three hits, which would be a great combat improvement. Unfortunately, it's now only 1.2. In the later stages of the game, when many monsters have special defenses, is a 1.2 physical damage multiplier a bit low? Maybe we could get more drones or corresponding Shadow damage. Originally, WX78 could enjoy a stable damage multiplier in group battles, but now the conditions are much more demanding. So, will there be any balancing measures? For example, allowing teammates to also benefit from the drone's effects or having more stable drone scans. The emergency recharge effect that consumes Nightmare Fuel is great, but in actual use, there aren't many scenarios where it's needed. It would be nice if a fully charged battery could provide other benefits.(Machine translation) I really like the battery ideia. This could work not only for wx recharge, but dor zaptrocuter Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 On 4/24/2026 at 5:54 PM, Deurus said: Yep, well this is a pretty obscure circuit. I Dont think wx-78 should be a "summoner" charracter Since we already have many on the game but I suppose that since all of this is optional with the circuits...I dont know, I'ts feels like a strange decision as a circuit but maybe its just me. Disagree on this, tbh. WX in every iteration (pre-rework, rework, skill tree), has been emphasized as more of a tank character than a damage dealer. Especially considering WX is one of the few characters that doesn’t get direct stat boosts to deal with lunar/shadow creatures, I think having minions that you can tank for is a great way to utilize his kit. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deurus Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, cybers2001 said: Disagree on this, tbh. WX in every iteration (pre-rework, rework, skill tree), has been emphasized as more of a tank character than a damage dealer. Especially considering WX is one of the few characters that doesn’t get direct stat boosts to deal with lunar/shadow creatures, I think having minions that you can tank for is a great way to utilize his kit. Yes, I changed my perspective on it. In the end, as I mentioned, one of the characteristics of this character is that it can be played in different ways. Perhaps it wasn't the new circuit I was expecting, BUT it's still pretty cool and useful. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bransonb Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 A thought: a Gamma Circuit to make food eaten also apply that hunger, sanity, and health to inactive chassis. Maybe from a scan of self-healing boss like Crab King or a minion-having boss like Spider Queen (I know Nurse spiders do more of the healing-allies thing, but they're already a scan). 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouKnowWho142 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, bransonb said: A thought: a Gamma Circuit to make food eaten also apply that hunger, sanity, and health to inactive chassis. Maybe from a scan of self-healing boss like Crab King or a minion-having boss like Spider Queen (I know Nurse spiders do more of the healing-allies thing, but they're already a scan). that would be really good if they ever ended up adding lunar/shadow circuits, i like it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeNibble Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, bransonb said: A thought: a Gamma Circuit to make food eaten also apply that hunger, sanity, and health to inactive chassis. Maybe from a scan of self-healing boss like Crab King or a minion-having boss like Spider Queen (I know Nurse spiders do more of the healing-allies thing, but they're already a scan). That'd be fantastic. The bonus could be small, e.g., 10% per backup chassis and it would still be a huge quality of life gain. Note: I don't think this circuit needs to be an affinity circuit or anything. It works fine / seems very useful regardless of affinity. Edited April 27 by OrangeNibble Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171128-game-update-724783/page/6/#findComment-1864873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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