aidancode Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I want to hear arguments here from both sides. Personally, I think this is likely a replacement sequel, considering the game does seem to be largely DST but expanded upon, which I think would be very good and healthy for the franchise, but I also recognize the very real possibility that this is just a spinoff similar to basically what Hamlet did. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I can see both sides of it, honestly. I doubt it would like, forcibly end DST, but I can totally see why development has slowed down if they were doing this in the background. I myself don't mind if DST becomes the more "secondary" project receiving small context/QOL updates while Elsewhere becomes their new main project. I can definitely see some people being turned away from elsewhere compared to the more "settled" nature of DST. We will have to see, though! 17 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanKSB91 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Elsewhere surely explains why updates had longer wait times between each other and it could be a sequel, but what makes me think it could be an spin off is the expectamus puzzle, there you can see two Wagstaff that just have different clothes, the survivors in Elsewhere also look slightly different except from WX so maybe this is a different set of survivors. I guess we'll find out once it is said whether this game will be focused purely on survival or if it will have a twist. 5 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Well you see, that’s going to depend on if the game remains exclusive to steam, or if it eventually comes to other consoles like PS5, Series X/S, and Switch 2. Why is that important you ask? Because they Won’t be held back by last Gen limitations and can actually design a new game from the ground up without having to worry about if last Gen hardware can still run it. If the answer to that question is Yes, then Elsewhere is a true sequel… and will eventually replace DST as DST will slowly phase out for being too outdated to keep getting updates (without breaking older hardware) 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milordo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) I don't see it at all as an argument. This is all on all a sequel, that's it. Dst 2 is ending and will slowly fade away. EDIT: I'm saying this because just by looking at the trailer it's literally Ds2 but better. JUST LOOK AT THOSE BEAUTIFUL CAVESSSS, FINALLY. It makes me cry Edited April 9 by Milordo 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 33 minutes ago, IanKSB91 said: different except from WX so maybe this is a different set of survivors. even WX looks different! (They got a key hole on their chest and rimming along the head. I'm hoping DSE is more survival focused rather than Boss focused (even if that means bosses that actively attack you instead of being passive) in which case I think a large playerbase will prefer DST over DSE. So if it is what I hope it is, I don't see it as a replacement. 5 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 DSE seems to be a much better version of DST, and the recent state of DST does indeed seem to be heading towards its end. I wouldn't be surprised if DSE replace DST just like DST replaced DS. 13 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I'm definitely open to the idea of DST's story coming to an end, but I'd hope that Klei puts their all into ending this game. I want the ending to be reflective of the 10+ years it took us to get to it. I also hope that DST will still get small content updates just to keep the blood pumping. Even if they are just permanently on QOL duty. 15 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Skilltrees and riffs are not done so I doubt it’s a replacement. Looking at the steam tags Klei gave it, it doesnt have “Sandbox” unless this was a mistake. It seems more rpg and adventure focused. It might give a different niche. 7 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiyss Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jakepeng99 said: Skilltrees and riffs are not done so I doubt it’s a replacement. Looking at the steam tags Klei gave it, it doesnt have “Sandbox” unless this was a mistake. It seems more rpg and adventure focused. it could replace it after their done with dst. Just because they are not done yet doesn't mean they can't just finish dst first, then release this new game. Edited April 9 by Swiyss 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xhyom Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 We're in a rather strange situation, I think I'll wait for the roadmap next week before worrying about it. For now, I'm just blown away by the new game. 8 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wawchik Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Probably a spin off, considering that dst is still unfinished. Skill trees, rifts, and their promises of more pre rift content means dst can still get years of updates at minimum 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 12 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Skilltrees and riffs are not done so I doubt it’s a replacement. Looking at the steam tags Klei gave it, it doesnt have “Sandbox” unless this was a mistake. It seems more rpg and adventure focused. It might give a different niche. just looked and it has "sandbox" now but it says it is "user-generated". When I checked DST and DS neither of them had "sandbox" from what I saw. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 7 minutes ago, Evelo said: just looked and it has "sandbox" now but it says it is "user-generated". When I checked DST and DS neither of them had "sandbox" from what I saw. You are looking at the wrong tags. The ones assigned by dev Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiyss Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) From what I'm seeing it looks like it will be a fixed map, not a randomly generated one. EDIT Edited April 9 by Swiyss 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: You are looking at the wrong tags. The ones assigned by dev yeah idk how to see that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussatoon Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Just now, Swiyss said: From what I'm seeing it looks like it will be a fixed map, not a randomly generated one. Did you not see the descriptions on the Steam page? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 19 minutes ago, Wawchik said: Probably a spin off, considering that dst is still unfinished. Skill trees, rifts, and their promises of more pre rift content means dst can still get years of updates at minimum We don't know when this game will be released. It could be years also. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidancode Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 27 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: We don't know when this game will be released. It could be years also. Baseless guess: they're gonna take a year and a bit to finish up the shadow rifts and the rest of the skill trees, then follow up with DSE in late summer 2027 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wawchik Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 28 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: We don't know when this game will be released. It could be years also. Eh, I just stated the obvious thing. I personally think it's a spin off Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 For now I think this is just a spin off. Klei has been know to be adaptive and it could one day end up becoming their focus. But I really hope this is a diffrent experience than what dst is and not just a sequel. I want to see actual destruction than the basing game dst has become. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) DSE seems to be literally DS3 if you ask me. Edited April 9 by Well-met Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidancode Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 https://imgur.com/a/3bRPFQX I think this little joke is actually good evidence towards DSE being a sequel. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Cox Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Replacement sequel. DST has had a long enough run and a fresh new start, with multiplayer actually built in mind this time, is what I feel like DST has needed for a very long time. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvu2bits Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I just know the art team is happy to be done with that Wilson face theyve been stuck with using for like a decade 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170639-argue-about-whether-this-is-a-true-replacement-sequel-or-just-a-spinoff/#findComment-1859819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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