Violet Desiree Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 Actual changes: I feel like 4 pig skins makes it too costly for a server with a lot of people you can easily get them if you turn a pig into a werepig which i mostly do but i feel like it encourages people to hoard pigskin when its needed mostly for helmets and other items Change the recipe to 2 planks 1 pigskin and 4 wool for base saddle Change the recipe to 2 living logs 1 gloomer goop or gloomer wings(i normally kill gloomer every full moon) and 5 butterfly wings for gloomer saddle Give Pudgy beefalo a special item that allows it to transport cargo allow it to fill niche when you dont need to explore fast and just are looking to store a lot of stuff in what is basically a tank in speed and strenght maybe for winonas catapults if someone already took chester or you havent fought bee queen yet(idk why you wouldnt she is the counter but still ) Allow wigfrid to do a charge attack on top of a beefalo or allow her to have access to her damage multiplier if she uses her own saddle(Making her saddle the best for herself but like a jack of all trades for every other survivor like her helmet Allow willow to absorb embers on top of a beefalo Let us repair the licking thingies with either salt or nitre depending on the type Allow us to inspect our befalo to know their obediance similar to antlion where you can somewhat gaige the % based on the quote Dumb things: Willows faster benrey perk cant go as fast as rider beefalo with gloomer saddle i know its a small thing but its really annoying when you want berny to heal while traveling your world and it just drops in a corner while you are exploring making you have to double back so it would be nice if that ability was as fast as a beefalo or make berney teleport Idk why but i think it would be fun to alllow 2 or more survivors to ride a beefalo maybe as a trade off the riding time is cut in half per survivor Perhaps make itso beefalo give some insulation while riding them (idk if thats how it works in game ) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 I think pudgy should give warmth for winter, like a cuddle buddy you can squish against. Also give it a rounder body for dat LeChonk Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Desiree Posted January 24, 2025 Author Share Posted January 24, 2025 6 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: I think pudgy should give warmth for winter, like a cuddle buddy you can squish against. Also give it a rounder body for dat LeChonk Perhaps you could turn him into a fur farm but i dont see what you can use that nuch fur for it could be something similar to a critter where its just cute Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 4 minutes ago, Violet Desiree said: Perhaps you could turn him into a fur farm but i dont see what you can use that nuch fur for it could be something similar to a critter where its just cute Nah, beefalo fur is extremely easy to gather. I could never destroy tamed one's fur. Heat part would kinda make sense since it's pudgy big and warm. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 Why do beefalo saddles encourage you to hoard pig skin? You only ever make one, or maybe at most two. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 Beefalo are already incredibly powerful and negate the majority of dangers in the game. Buffing them is unnecessary. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rage Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 3 hours ago, Evelo said: Beefalo are already incredibly powerful and negate the majority of dangers in the game. Buffing them is unnecessary. Indeed, assuming you are willing to learn the game or are simply a decent player. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 Any improvement ideas for Beefalo would be unwelcomed in this forum I guess since some familiar faces already showed that how imbalance they think the current Beefalo is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 Pudgy being bad sort of makes sense once you look at it like a "failed" domestication. But I'm not sure dst players tolerate punishment anymore nowadays Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 1 hour ago, Steorra said: Any improvement ideas for Beefalo would be unwelcomed in this forum I guess since some familiar faces already showed that how imbalance they think the current Beefalo is. These aren't improvement ideas, most of these are just "Make it cheaper to get this super strong thing". Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 9 minutes ago, Cheggf said: These aren't improvement ideas, most of these are just "Make it cheaper to get this super strong thing". Yes I know, but it has no difference to those familiar faces. And evidence already appeared here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siren11 Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 11 hours ago, Cheggf said: Why do beefalo saddles encourage you to hoard pig skin? You only ever make one, or maybe at most two. My friend somehow managed to lose like four saddles while taming a Beefalo. Beefalo are really good though. I wouldn’t necessarily want them to get any buffs or nerfs. I do like the idea about being able to inspect a Beefalo to know its obedience, and having a little more synergy (especially with Wigfrid) probably wouldn’t be the worst thing ever. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 4 hours ago, Well-met said: Pudgy being bad sort of makes sense once you look at it like a "failed" domestication. But pudgy doesn’t really accomplish that. It already by itself is the “hardest” domestication trait to lock in (you need to keep well fed constantly to increase the trait, while the other traits just requires you to ride it and do an action, which is 99% of the time you want to take a (rider/ornery) beefalo in the first place…). Even the base default trait where you actually screw up the trait values has more situational use then pudgy ever will. I don’t know what it should get to improve it, but it really should be stronger or at least have some use that’s unique than the actual gimped trait. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 5 hours ago, Maxil20 said: But pudgy doesn’t really accomplish that. It already by itself is the “hardest” domestication trait to lock in (you need to keep well fed constantly to increase the trait, while the other traits just requires you to ride it and do an action, which is 99% of the time you want to take a (rider/ornery) beefalo in the first place…). Even the base default trait where you actually screw up the trait values has more situational use then pudgy ever will. I don’t know what it should get to improve it, but it really should be stronger or at least have some use that’s unique than the actual gimped trait. i would say increase sanity to match a Tam and make the beefalo a very small heat source (the weakest value possible?) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted January 25, 2025 Share Posted January 25, 2025 4 hours ago, Well-met said: increase sanity to match a Tam didn't pudgy beef already have this Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted January 25, 2025 Share Posted January 25, 2025 2 minutes ago, Anis5240 said: didn't pudgy beef already have this oh yes you're correct, they're actually very similar, my bad. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapoLover Posted January 25, 2025 Share Posted January 25, 2025 I believe Beefalo's are fine, only making default and pudgy tendencies more accessible would make it more awesome. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted January 25, 2025 Share Posted January 25, 2025 i only ever try for pudgy so i am not really one to see it as the "bad" option. would love if it had a tiny bit of heat added though! big fluffy boi for the winter~ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Desiree Posted January 25, 2025 Author Share Posted January 25, 2025 22 hours ago, Cheggf said: Why do beefalo saddles encourage you to hoard pig skin? You only ever make one, or maybe at most two. you could use those 4 pig skins to give armor to 4 people but instead you only give armor to 1 person Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted January 25, 2025 Share Posted January 25, 2025 8 minutes ago, Violet Desiree said: you could use those 4 pig skins to give armor to 4 people but instead you only give armor to 1 person wow what will a fresh world ever do without 4 pig skins Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted January 25, 2025 Share Posted January 25, 2025 11 minutes ago, Violet Desiree said: you could use those 4 pig skins to give armor to 4 people but instead you only give armor to 1 person people when other armor options exist: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted January 25, 2025 Share Posted January 25, 2025 pig skin are actually not that rare, you can get them from pig heads, houses, and pig themselves is rare because ususally one person haul them for no reason Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Desiree Posted January 25, 2025 Author Share Posted January 25, 2025 18 minutes ago, Edible Coal said: pig skin are actually not that rare, you can get them from pig heads, houses, and pig themselves is rare because ususally one person haul them for no reason idk maybe its me not wanting to take more than i give i normally set up a fishing farm in the server if i take too much food or stuff perhaps i overstiamted how rare pigskins where Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted January 25, 2025 Share Posted January 25, 2025 1 hour ago, Violet Desiree said: you could use those 4 pig skins to give armor to 4 people but instead you only give armor to 1 person But the helmets break. I've often seen people go through 20+ pig skin to fight a single boss or go to the ruins or whatever. A beefalo is infinite durability. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163320-i-love-beefalo-but-i-think-they-could-get-better/#findComment-1788962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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