cameron8800 Posted October 11, 2024 Share Posted October 11, 2024 If so what kind of content do you want to see? I think a lava biome with some kind of relevant boss would be awesome. Similarly and ice biome and boss would be cool. something similar to the mants from hamlet would be cool also Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted October 11, 2024 Share Posted October 11, 2024 UPDATE THE OLD AND BARREN BIOMES Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted October 11, 2024 Share Posted October 11, 2024 in the way of the last update? nah, that one was...........eh........ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted October 11, 2024 Share Posted October 11, 2024 Cave, surface, sea... as said above, every barren biomes needs an update. Is a waste of potential Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted October 11, 2024 Share Posted October 11, 2024 Yes, the caves need an update. The first thing they should do is bring back Don't Starve-style ruins generation. After that, update the other biomes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron8800 Posted October 11, 2024 Author Share Posted October 11, 2024 17 minutes ago, arubaro said: Cave, surface, sea... as said above, every barren biomes needs an update. Is a waste of potential What should that look like though? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milordo Posted October 11, 2024 Share Posted October 11, 2024 Is this bait? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron8800 Posted October 11, 2024 Author Share Posted October 11, 2024 20 minutes ago, Milordo said: Is this bait? Yes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 2 hours ago, Wormboi said: UPDATE THE OLD AND BARREN BIOMES this, with lava-related stuff like they always wanted to do. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 Absolutely, joke or not. The last update, despite being listed as a cave update, added a lot of more content that just takes place in the caves, rather than touching up the caves in of themselves. Of course, all the new content ties into being in the caves, but I'd really wish they have gone in and reworked the aimless, barren, repeat biomes, and maybe even the weird generation you sometimes get. Bring back some of the richer Ruins, and fix a lot of those broken/missing rooms and setpieces! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 14 minutes ago, -Variant said: Of course, all the new content ties into being in the caves, but I'd really wish they have gone in and reworked the aimless, barren, repeat biomes, and maybe even the weird generation you sometimes get. Bring back some of the richer Ruins, and fix a lot of those broken/missing rooms and setpieces! Really, my biggest issue is just how bad the caves are for general traversing. Outside of the mushroom biomes and maybe the staircase areas, the caves are filled with extremely stringy biomes with multiple gaps/spaces between areas. It feels very unfun to go around, let alone if you want to plan a base location you pretty much are forced into the former biomes. Admittedly, the DS caves also had this issue, but the ruins lacked it (which bothers me further how much the DST ruins are…). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 2 hours ago, Maxil20 said: Really, my biggest issue is just how bad the caves are for general traversing. Outside of the mushroom biomes and maybe the staircase areas, the caves are filled with extremely stringy biomes with multiple gaps/spaces between areas. It feels very unfun to go around, let alone if you want to plan a base location you pretty much are forced into the former biomes. Bridges help a lot with this now! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidankocherhans Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 6 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said: Yes, the caves need an update. The first thing they should do is bring back Don't Starve-style ruins generation. After that, update the other biomes. How is it different between the games? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 56 minutes ago, aidankocherhans said: How is it different between the games? Instead of having a bunch of stupid, empty default texture bridges, it has vast areas full of nightmare lights, clockworks, and occasional statues. It's generally a lot bigger and has more resources and more threats. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3012767514&searchtext=ds+ruins This mod restores them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szczuku Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 Obviously, the recent update did jack in terms of updating caves themselves, with the only thing of note being the bridge and the worm. The devs called it a cave update only because it takes place in the cave; it was actually a shadow rift update Like 80% of caves biomes are outdated and have little to no reason for exploration Outside of bosses, ruins and lightbulbs (which 90% of the time can be found by the entrance) the caves offer little to no valuable loot untill the shadow rift is opened Seasons almost don't affect the caves, which is a shame because I could certainly imagine at least a few things that could be different about the caves in winter vs the caves in summer There's also nothing on the surface that would incentivise to basing in the caves, well, save for not wanting to spend summer in the oasis I guess Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 9 hours ago, Wormboi said: UPDATE THE OLD AND BARREN BIOMES For both the surface and caves. Plz plz plz. The savannah is so dull. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 16 hours ago, cameron8800 said: I think a lava biome with some kind of relevant boss would be awesome. Similarly and ice biome and boss would be cool. "We have lava/ice biome at home." Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron8800 Posted October 12, 2024 Author Share Posted October 12, 2024 20 minutes ago, Bumber64 said: "We have lava/ice biome at home." *pulls mctusk biome and dragonfly arena out of the cupboard* Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 5 minutes ago, cameron8800 said: *pulls mctusk biome and dragonfly arena out of the cupboard* Was thinking of sharkboi, actually. McTusk isn't year-round. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron8800 Posted October 12, 2024 Author Share Posted October 12, 2024 1 minute ago, Bumber64 said: Was thinking of shark boi, actually. Ohhh that makes more sense Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 So much of the caves is just resources and plants you can find on the surface (I.E 3 of the 4 mushroom forests, guano cave, ect.) It needs new resources and plants to be more exciting both visually and mechanically. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 One thought I had: what if they made the cave forest biomes a bit more overgrown? I'm talking about the actual sunken forest biomes, for clarity, not just the cave entrance areas. Maybe there's special tree stumps that act as natural mushroom planters. There could be predatory hanging vines from Hamlet dangling down from the ceiling that attack if you get too close and steal your edibles like marotters. Just little things like that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 change the "lots" to "default" and adjust the ratios accordingly. people want more content but also mostly keep the settings at default which forces the game to be stingy with populating biomes leaving a lot of empty space where there is nothing going on. instead of expecting people to do their own work why not account for this and just change the percentages? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, gaymime said: people want more content but also mostly keep the settings at default which forces the game to be stingy with populating biomes leaving a lot of empty space where there is nothing going on. As someone who does mess with the world settings a lot to fill in the emptier biomes, this doesn't really tackle the problem all that much. Some settings can help a bit and make things a bit more interesting, but there's a lot of changes I'd love to see that aren't fixable with the current settings. A lot of folks, myself included, want a more hands on revamp to a good chunk of the biomes. I'd like to see new stuff in the caves, unique content that fits in and interacts with a lot of existing cave stuff instead of just more of what's already down there, which is already a good handful of surface content. You can touch up older content whilst adding new stuff to interact with them too, which I'd kill for to be done to most biomes down there. I'd like reasons to go down and explore those larger emptier guano biomes, or those vast empty rock fields. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted October 12, 2024 Share Posted October 12, 2024 The one thing about caves is that if you add too much stuff there, people who play on devices that can't handle them will be missing out on a lot of stuff. Although with Shadow Rifts being there I guess we already crossed that bridge so yeah, I'd appreciate some cave stuff. I suggest grubs and centipedes, call them warrior husks Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160159-do-you-think-that-the-caves-need-an-update/#findComment-1752858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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