nimzowitsch10 Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 The greater worm is still the worst boss that drops nothing good, destroys structures and is hard to kill. They did not make this boss drop anything unique or good but resources we would just get otherwise. I was really hoping for this update to make some major changes to the worm boss loot but I guess I had my hopes up too much. Overall very disappointed with this update, good job with the skins? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memetan Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 Is not a boss Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted September 12, 2024 Author Share Posted September 12, 2024 @Memetan Klei thinks it is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milordo Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said: Klei thinks it is. And he is! I don't know why Memetan thought that, when he is factually 100% boss. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridley Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 I think you are putting expectations on the "Worm Boss" that it was never designed for. It is a cool thing that makes the depth worm waves less spammy and more interesting. Though I didn't see in the patch notes if they updated the scrapbook to call it a mini-giant or not. Matters for the Maul. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted September 12, 2024 Author Share Posted September 12, 2024 @Ridley The worm boss is definitely a boss, and is not a miniboss like a varglet that makes waves "less spammy". What is the purpose of killing this boss? There is literally no reason to kill it. Players will just avoid it and never fight it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waywarbler Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 1 minute ago, nimzowitsch10 said: @Ridley The worm boss is definitely a boss, and is not a miniboss like a varglet that makes waves "less spammy". What is the purpose of killing this boss? There is literally no reason to kill it. Players will just avoid it and never fight it. Chance of ruins gems? :P Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 Is not hard to kill :/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 It's a Spider Queen-tier boss. It's not gonna drop anything crazy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted September 12, 2024 Author Share Posted September 12, 2024 @DegenerateFurry spider queen is 5x easier than this boss, this boss literally has a chance to one hit kill you. Idk why everyone thinks this boss is a piece of cake? If this boss was really spider queen level of difficulty i wouldn't be saying nothing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 1 minute ago, nimzowitsch10 said: @DegenerateFurry spider queen is 5x easier than this boss, this boss literally has a chance to one hit kill you. Idk why everyone thinks this boss is a piece of cake? If this boss was really spider queen level of difficulty i wouldn't be saying nothing. because a) lots of players with thousands of hours of play and b) anything less than so broken and impossible to beat it is clearly a bug will make the tryhards want to flex and brag about their skill-level by calling anything and everything too easy Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said: @DegenerateFurry spider queen is 5x easier than this boss, this boss literally has a chance to one hit kill you. Idk why everyone thinks this boss is a piece of cake? If this boss was really spider queen level of difficulty i wouldn't be saying nothing. I bet you I’ll be able to fight this worm boss way easier than I EVER have been able to handle spider queens. and there’s a very logical reason for that.. One Giant Worm Vs one spider that spawns a bunch of minions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said: @DegenerateFurry spider queen is 5x easier than this boss, this boss literally has a chance to one hit kill you. Idk why everyone thinks this boss is a piece of cake? If this boss was really spider queen level of difficulty i wouldn't be saying nothing. It doesn't actually one-hit kill you, it just brings you down to extremely low HP if it vores you, and the attack that does that's a very easy attack to dodge. Also, if you use electric damage, this boss effectively has a lot less HP than it normally would. Its real big threat (it can't eat you if you keep running from it) is getting stuck between its segments and bounced around, which will do a considerable amount of damage. Spider Queens are often not alone since dens tend to reach maturity around the same time, and their spider armies can grow to be a threat if you let them and you're not using the strat where you spam a bunch of traps to take care of them for you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted September 12, 2024 Author Share Posted September 12, 2024 @DegenerateFurry Dude, keep it real spider queens are much easier. To top it off, THEY DROP SOMETHING USEFUL. I'm fuming rn. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 There's a world option to disable it for old worlds that weren't prepared for that kind of thing (or just don't like the boss, which I personally do not), so I don't really have much to say on the matter. I am happy it did get a revamp to it's drop pool to at least provide things like ruins gems/fossil fragments time to time. Not a lot, but it's certainly nice to have it then not having it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 14 minutes ago, gaymime said: because a) lots of players with thousands of hours of play and b) anything less than so broken and impossible to beat it is clearly a bug will make the tryhards want to flex and brag about their skill-level by calling anything and everything too easy Or maybe some casual's ego got hurt just because someone saying "is hard to kill" got answers saying otherwise because is the truth since this boss, while can be lethal if you make a huge and hard to accomplish mistake (is so slow..), is one of the easiest bosses in the game, maybe just a little above deerclops and bearger Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted September 12, 2024 Author Share Posted September 12, 2024 @arubaro Dude you missed the whole point of this post. I think the loot is trash for the amount of effort it takes to kill it. What do you get for killing deerclops? A umbrella hat that provides rain protection and insulation What do you get for killing bearger? A thick fur that allows you to craft insulated storage or a portable fridge What do you get for killing worm boss? some materials you can get from everywhere, and sometimes gems. That is why i'm pissed off. Every boss has a unique drop that incentivizes people to go for them, worm boss does not, idk how you're not getting this. worm boss is officially the worst boss of all time, 2nd is scrappy werepig Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 14 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said: @arubaro Dude you missed the whole point of this post. I think the loot is trash for the amount of effort it takes to kill it. What do you get for killing deerclops? A umbrella hat that provides rain protection and insulation What do you get for killing bearger? A thick fur that allows you to craft insulated storage or a portable fridge What do you get for killing worm boss? some materials you can get from everywhere, and sometimes gems. That is why i'm pissed off. Every boss has a unique drop that incentivizes people to go for them, worm boss does not, idk how you're not getting this. worm boss is officially the worst boss of all time, 2nd is scrappy werepig Scrappy werepig's loot s@cks, is a optional boss so there is no point on going to kill him other than spawning the pure horror version The great worm is a hazzard, it has more loot than a danger developed just to kill the player needs Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADM Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 1 hour ago, arubaro said: Or maybe some casual's ego got hurt just because someone saying "is hard to kill" got answers saying otherwise because is the truth since this boss, while can be lethal if you make a huge and hard to accomplish mistake (is so slow..), is one of the easiest bosses in the game, maybe just a little above deerclops and bearger make it make sense, bro. saying a casual's ego got hurt is the reason why people keep saying "too easy" makes no sense at all. please read a comment before replying Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Milordo said: And he is! I don't know why Memetan thought that, when he is factually 100% boss. Because initially the devs themselves said it wasn't. That being said it think he's a great boss. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 1 hour ago, nimzowitsch10 said: Every boss has a unique drop that incentivizes people to go for them, worm boss does not, idk how you're not getting this. The Spider Queen's only unique drop is a spider hat that basically nobody uses. It drops a spider den that you can get by killing a tier 3 den, some monster meat, and some silk. Treeguards drop living logs, which Wormwood can make for close to free if he has a tent. You can also get living logs from Totally Normal Trees and mushgnomes. The Greater Depths Worm is more akin to a Spider Queen or Treeguard than a seasonal boss. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 1 hour ago, gaymime said: because a) lots of players with thousands of hours of play and b) anything less than so broken and impossible to beat it is clearly a bug will make the tryhards want to flex and brag about their skill-level by calling anything and everything too easy I mean to be fair without hours of experience spider queen is a very real threat too you can get swarmed easier if your not prepared especially since they usually spawn near spider dens add to that the fact she can heal and a less experienced player might not think to kill the nurses. One could say well it's pretty easier once you know how to fight it but the same applies to the worm. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milordo Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 10 minutes ago, ADM said: Thanks <3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dois raios Posted September 12, 2024 Share Posted September 12, 2024 I think the punishment when dying is too much. It could have the items digested 'stored' in its stomach so we could get it back when we kill it. (except edibles of course) because right now, if it kills you and consume your stuff, its over... you will never see your items again. (bye helmets, repair kits, swords, bearger bin, celestial crown, walking cane, EVERYTHING will be destroyed if the worm do the eating animation) at least the backpack is safe XD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159665-thoughts-on-the-worm-boss/#findComment-1747565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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