Are we due for a sequel anytime soon?

[chirsg]

What would you want in a sequel?

For me, things in a sequel that would be unrealistic to add into the game would be as such
- A true ecosystem where each mob has a hunger meter where beefalo eats grass and goats eat vegitation. Grass, saplings, berries, germinate based on the droppings of each herbivore and predators control herbivore numbers

- Expanded domestication based on this.

- Crockpot meals having more effects outside of keeping you from starving

- Actual use of the 3rd dimension in building so I can make something like this

 

 

I had a lot more in mind for a sequel, but I chose to omit a few things from the "Unrealistic" facet, as I wouldn't want to completely diminish the chances of certain things getting added, especially when there are modders who are working on innovations as we speak to push the game to it's possible limits, such as Fuffles making the elevation mod and the Island adventures crew making a seamless hamlet mod, but certainly, I'd want these in a sequel.

 

 

[AliceShiki]

I don't think DST's model is the kind that is very friendly to a sequel, but I wouldn't be opposed to one happening? I just think it's unlikely.

As for what I'd want for a sequel... Uhn... Coding changes, I guess? Like, Lua is great for modding, but AFAIK it's not that efficient (I could be wrong though. I don't know thaaaat much about it) for actual in-game code, so... If the main game code was in a more efficient language, it could be nice?

And uhn... Well, some bigger story developments that would warrant a sequel in the first place, I guess. Something that would warrant changing the default state of the game from DST to something else. Because of some fundamental change to the starting experience and stuff.

I'm actually pretty happy with DST as is though, so... No real specific wishes for a sequel. I like the way things are going now.

[Auth]

I would love a sequel that takes the game in a different direction, but I think anything like what I'd want/expect out of a sequel is beyond Klei's scope for the foreseeable future. For that reason, I wouldn't want to ask for a sequel any time soon. And I'd imagine they'd probably get fatigued of it by that point before considering making another game in the franchise, last thing I think Klei expected/wanted when the game first released was to just become "The Don't Starve Company" 

Vintage Story and survival games like it scratch the itch for more complex survival systems for now, at least for me.

That, and on a far more personal note, I think the current state of the game's lore is abysmal. I would not like to see the state it's in now be considered a launching point for a gigantic new arc. But I wouldn't want to see what's currently being left open just be abandoned, either. A lot of work would need to be done, and at that point, why even consider a sequel for the time being.

[WenericMember]

16 minutes ago, Auth said:

That, and on a far more personal note, I think the current state of the game's lore is abysmal. I would not like to see the state it's in now be considered a launching point for a gigantic new arc. But I wouldn't want to see what's currently being left open just be abandoned, either. A lot of work would need to be done, and at that point, why even consider a sequel for the time being.

This is the big sticking point for me too. Mechanically, there's more than enough in DST such that rebuilding from the ground up could be refreshing, such as worldgen, progression, etc, but the characters & world aren't ready for it yet.

[Mike23Ua]

Elevated platforms of land, smarter mob behavior and A.I, significant improvements to having more randomly generated biome and world generation a much more detailed world with more foliage, resources etc?? Totally sign me up for all that.

for anyone confused- Fortnite Played on an Xbox One vs Played in a Xbox Series X.

There are differences, huge ones.. And that’s the kind of changes i would expect in a DS Sequel.

[BalkanCockroach]

This IS the sequel.

[Waoling]

3 hours ago, chirsg said:

Actual use of the 3rd dimension in building so I can make something like this

Is this satire?

[chirsg]

1 hour ago, Waoling said:

Is this satire?

No. Borobudur was built in 650 A.D and I think it's a marvel of architecture and engineering.

You don't see indonesia represented that often within conversations of building excellence. I don't understand what's satirical about it. I'd like to be able to build a true monolith in the don't starve series. 

Do you have a problem with that?

[Waoling]

I don't have a problem with the building, I have the problem with the unrealistic expectation of DST sequel allowing that much space and material to build something even close to that.

[00petar00]

Everything except 3D is possible to be added to the current game and I don't really care about graphics (pulling a Mike card here) as I play Dwarf Fortress, Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead and many other games that are focused on depth but have "pictures" moving on screen.

I don't think DST needs a sequel currently unless the team can expand by like 10x and they can add much more content otherwise I don't see how it can be worth doing. I have been playing DST for like 10 years already and the game is just getting better and better, so why would I want to go to a new game like how DST was during alpha/beta test phase without much content and play it for like 10 years until it becomes much more enjoyable?

If there was a sequel I probably wouldn't play for the first few years unless it had much more content compared to DST before release or even after as I have been spoiled by so many games over the years including DST in its current state.

 

[Brago-sama]

We need to go 1d and have a dont starve story focused rpg

[NPCMaxwell]

6 hours ago, chirsg said:

What would you want in a sequel?

For me, things in a sequel that would be unrealistic to add into the game would be as such
- A true ecosystem where each mob has a hunger meter where beefalo eats grass and goats eat vegitation. Grass, saplings, berries, germinate based on the droppings of each herbivore and predators control herbivore numbers

- Expanded domestication based on this.

- Crockpot meals having more effects outside of keeping you from starving

- Actual use of the 3rd dimension in building so I can make something like this

 

 

I had a lot more in mind for a sequel, but I chose to omit a few things from the "Unrealistic" facet, as I wouldn't want to completely diminish the chances of certain things getting added, especially when there are modders who are working on innovations as we speak to push the game to it's possible limits, such as Fuffles making the elevation mod and the Island adventures crew making a seamless hamlet mod, but certainly, I'd want these in a sequel.

 

 

Why would this all be "unrealistic"?   Apart the 3D buildings I would /ADORE/ actually 'living' or dynamics / functional ecosystems in a future DS game. It's actually what I would want MOST.

[Evelo]

Can't stand franchises personally. DST is already Don't Starve Two(gether) as well. Kinda. I'd rather Klei decide to stop supporting the game than to make Don't Starve Threegether.

[NPCMaxwell]

20 minutes ago, Evelo said:

Can't stand franchises personally. DST is already Don't Starve Two(gether) as well. Kinda. I'd rather Klei decide to stop supporting the game than to make Don't Starve Threegether.

When it comes to lore / character differences I prefer games not getting sequels either. But since for me DST already broke this rule (I mean I prefer the old Lore, but I grew ok with the DST one.) I would be /OK/ with a 3rd part. But only for advanced world-generation / creatures / gameplay mechanics / more realistic struggles, likely. It's rather unlikely I would be happy about anything else that would probably go along with it. (probably graphic changes, new characters, other spin-off-type thingies, lore becoming even weirder and farer away from singleplayer)

[HowlVoid]

Might be time to move on from the franchise.

A new map, new set of characters, new mechanics (food less op), and new plot is what I'm hoping for.

[BalkanCockroach]

21 minutes ago, HowlVoid said:

Might be time to move on from the franchise.

A new map, new set of characters, new mechanics (food less op), and new plot is what I'm hoping for.

Maybe a different game set in the same universe like Portal and HL are. With small references.

[wormwood123]

15 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

for anyone confused- Fortnite Played on an Xbox One vs Played in a Xbox Series X.

There are differences, huge ones.. And that’s the kind of changes i would expect in a DS Sequel.

I'm really interested in these differences 

[HowlVoid]

1 hour ago, BalkanCockroach said:

Maybe a different game set in the same universe like Portal and HL are. With small references.

I mean they can always do a crossover with themselves. Wanda/Wagstaff/Maxwell can open some portal to the new game.

[Mike23Ua]

58 minutes ago, wormwood123 said:

I'm really interested in these differences 

there’s all sorts of videos like this, but skip to about 17 minutes in and watch the detail on the ground (the rock chips, flowers etc)

Fortnite isn’t the only game to do this.. you can look up the differences between State of Decay 2 & State of Decay 2: Juggernaut Edition.

For Console gamers- We look forward to these sort of visual graphic updates.

if you REALLY want to see impressive go YouTube GTA V on Xbox 360 vs Xbox One vs Xbox Series X.

Im not posting any of those videos here because well they’re obviously not for younger viewers to watch.

But my point was that an actual DS Sequel, that is NOT just DST being continued for forever and therefore can have NEW system Requirements for more “Modern Day Consoles” can have all these fancy graphical improvements and new weather effects or mob animations that DST- has to still be able to run on PCs released back in 2014.

Obviously at some point a truly Next Gen sequel with sophisticated new technology like Beefalo actually being able to “Graze” grass and leave them in a Harvested state with cute eating animations and all the fancy bells and whistles just makes logical sense.

Or you can compare how skags in Borderlands just stood there and let you shoot at them vs how in Borderlands 3 they visibly limp away etc….

Sure Klei can milk DST for however long that they feel that’s going to be profitable or more accurately “However long they can still get updates to work on outdated hardware.”

But at some point- They have to ask what’s next?

 

[qwp18]

34 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

For Console gamers- We look forward to these sort of visual graphic updates.

I have to *heavily* disagree. In general dst using "better technology for better graphic" would take away from the charm, esthetic and art style of the game, make it less accessible for people with low end pcs and increase development time and resource sink. In all honesty graphics is currently an absolute detriment to everything wrong in the current gaming industry and the many *many* terrible things happening in it rn. 

I agree with you about tiny details like beefalos maybe going around eating grass or gazing at it But there is nearly NOTHING they could add to Dst that would push the game to require high Gen consoles or take advantage of it, all of the things they can't do is limited by development issues and the set rules for the game aswell as it's engine, and there is really zero need for any "graphical improvements" . I can assure you, there is no mob animations or weather types in the game they could add that would truly take advantage of the modern day Consoles that the ones below it would not be able to have 

[wormwood123]

1 minute ago, qwp18 said:

I have to *heavily* disagree. In general dst using "better technology for better graphic" would take away from the charm, esthetic and art style of the game, make it less accessible for people with low end pcs and increase development time and resource sink. In all honesty graphics is currently an absolute detriment to everything wrong in the current gaming industry and the many *many* terrible things happening in it rn. 

I agree with you about tiny details like beefalos maybe going around eating grass or gazing at it But there is nearly NOTHING they could add to Dst that would push the game to require high Gen consoles or take advantage of it, all of the things they can't do is limited by development issues and the set rules for the game aswell as it's engine, and there is really zero need for any "graphical improvements" . I can assure you, there is no mob animations or weather types in the game they could add that would truly take advantage of the modern day Consoles that the ones below it would not be able to have 

 i love graphics theyre literally the only reason to play games

[Kwaik]

The biggest reason for a sequel would be to refresh the player base 

 

I love this game but it's over a decade old at this point. On consoles there's virtually no community. 

 

Of course you need a reason for a sequel.  Which to me would mean somehow taking it in the direction of the genre and further pushing this game in the direction of an mmo/live service game. And that's probably also why the results of the poll looks like they do, because most people on here would probably prefer something closer to just ole fashion Dont Starve. 

 

 

[Mike23Ua]

22 minutes ago, qwp18 said:

I have to *heavily* disagree. In general dst using "better technology for better graphic" would take away from the charm, esthetic and art style of the game, make it less accessible for people with low end pcs and increase development time and resource sink. In all honesty graphics is currently an absolute detriment to everything wrong in the current gaming industry and the many *many* terrible things happening in it rn. 

I agree with you about tiny details like beefalos maybe going around eating grass or gazing at it But there is nearly NOTHING they could add to Dst that would push the game to require high Gen consoles or take advantage of it, all of the things they can't do is limited by development issues and the set rules for the game aswell as it's engine, and there is really zero need for any "graphical improvements" . I can assure you, there is no mob animations or weather types in the game they could add that would truly take advantage of the modern day Consoles that the ones below it would not be able to have 

I probably shouldn’t need to point this out but the Nintendo Switch version of DST is limited to 4 maximum total players, believe it or not Klei actually does have hardware limitations.

And I specifically mentioned switch because there’s a Switch 2 coming out soon-ish.

I don’t think Klei will be able to update DST Switch to Switch 2 for higher player counts, which is often why games just ditch last Gen platforms and focus on the new Gen.

I really can’t explain it, but a DS/DST Sequel built FOR Switch 2 could have things like larger worlds and higher player counts.

a great example is Battlefield games and how on old hardware maps are small and limited to 12 vs 12, and that same game on newer hardware the maps are much larger with a whopping 130 player count.

Thats the world of “Console Gaming”

[wormwood123]

23 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

which is often why games just ditch last Gen platforms and focus on the new Gen.

I can name many games that still support the last gen platforms and have new gen support like: Fortnite, deep rock galactic and many more. but even then that doesn't matter as dst doesn't even have new gen versions and isn't really needed. and as for the switch (which isn't a modern day console as you mention that in a previous reply) I could totally see them updating it for new hardware.

[Echsrick]

question would be: will it be multiplayer? and if so, will the player base be split? will people not like the sequel and return back to together and play that instead? are there enought differences between together and sequel to even warrant a sequel in the first place? i seen sequels of a game where it sure was not warranted like at all and sometimes even not sure if it was realy needed, example dontstarve together, it litteraly was just "dont starve but theres 1 other person" and that was more so base dont starve

so i dont think a sequel shows up, especialy with the rift contend seemingly somewhat feeling "unfinished"