Why Woodie is the best at getting wood. (Better than Wurt and Maxwell)

[Jakepeng99]

He is very practical. You can passively gain wood as you do other things by just being around the world and chopping random trees every so often, you will have all the wood you will need with no effort, setup, or major distractions. You dont need to plan anything or setup a big farm. He also makes boards cheaper. If you need wood on the go, no problem.

 

Though, his beaver were form is really overrated and underpowered. Chopping random trees with his axe is better 95% the time since you can pick it up when you chop it and wont need to backtrack.

[Picklesaurus]

Beaver form feels really Awkward, between using your hunger bar to transform and draining sanity while transformed while also having to destransform and backtrack to pick up the wood he dropped...  it usually feels better to simply use your axe as Woodie and have a chance to spawn a tree guard to get living log which is something you want early game, while later in the game there are non survivor especific methods that are faster in the whole process than Beaver. I wish wood chopped by Beaver would drop stacked, so instead of a big tree dropping 3 single logs for you to pick up it would drop a stack of 3 logs, this would make Beaver feel much better to use.

Farming logs using Werebeaver feels like you are chopping trees as a Werebeaver and picking them up as a Wereslug.

[Jakepeng99]

36 minutes ago, Picklesaurus said:

Beaver form feels really Awkward, between using your hunger bar to transform and draining sanity while transformed while also having to destransform and backtrack to pick up the wood he dropped...  it usually feels better to simply use your axe as Woodie and have a chance to spawn a tree guard to get living log which is something you want early game, while later in the game there are non survivor especific methods that are faster in the whole process than Beaver. I wish wood chopped by Beaver would drop stacked, so instead of a big tree dropping 3 single logs for you to pick up it would drop a stack of 3 logs, this would make Beaver feel much better to use.

Farming logs using Werebeaver feels like you are chopping trees as a Werebeaver and picking them up as a Wereslug.

Only time i use the beaver is for mining, or if the full moon turns me into one.

The mastery is arguably one of the worst skills of all the skill trees, its execution is flawed. They even nerfed it for some reason.

I'd expect to be faster at dealing with clumped trees then Maxwel and Wurt, given i am giving up on the moose. 

[Kevinnator]

I recently started playing as Woodie with my friends and yeah, can agree on that. We have yet to run low on wood mainly 'cus friends keep replanting trees I've chopped and when a full moon comes, I transform into the werebeaver and chop the entire forest they've created. (yes I picked shadow alignment as Woodie, I got a lot of mileage out of not being bothered by nightmare creatures while transformed and it's funny for friends to tell me it's a full moon and get a reaction from me.)

Saves on a lot of resources too, never needing to make an axe for wood. No need for shovels and pickaxes if I'm the werebeaver. Armour and weapons for bosses? I'll just be a Weremoose instead (and for basic enemies, Ornary Beefalo). It's neat to never need to carry tools or materials to make them when I have a couple of idols in my inventory or chester.

[Anthony_L3hr]

So happy to see Lucy get some usage, the 1 log discount really adds up, and the Hardwood Hat/Walking Stick crafts feel really nice to give everyone in pubs. A nice, cheaper alternative to Football Helms that protect against earthquakes.

[Maxil20]

Woodie is good early game for log farming, but lategame he will start to fall off compared to other options, especially when mass board refining. The sawhorse can refine stacks of boards in mere seconds, while Woodie needs to refine each individual board. It is quite time consuming later on, especially when mass farming logs.

I myself use a Winona catapult setup with Winbots to mass chop trees while also allowing the Winbots to easily pickup all the logs/living logs/pinecones, then use the telebrella to warp the stacks of logs to my refining zone (with a few Winbots sorting the pinecones/living logs into another chest) and then use a sawhorse to mass refine the boards. I can pretty consistently farm ~2K boards in around 3 or so hours (starting from planting the first pinecone to refining the last board).

Quick note, I would say beaver with tail slam is still fairly nice, if only because it is impossible to get treeguards. If you just want boards, Woodie will by far have the smoothest time chopping trees than anyone else, even if he is a bit slower. I prefer catapults just to get the living logs and so it also doesn’t smash the decorations I use around my log farm.

[chirsg]

Woodie should be able to attach Lucy to the sawhorse. 

Woodie is currently outclassed at what is supposed to be his niche, once again. 

 

It's a simple thing. 

[_zwb]

Maxwell is clearly better because of books

[Jakepeng99]

13 hours ago, Maxil20 said:

but lategame he will start to fall off compared to other options, especially when mass board refining. The sawhorse can refine stacks of boards in mere seconds, while Woodie needs to refine each individual board. It is quite time consuming later on, especially when mass farming logs.

If your playing at max efficency and don't mentally pause, maybe, but realistically, refining the boards isnt a problem since its time to think and chill down since most cant be non stop working.

12 minutes ago, _zwb said:

Maxwell is clearly better because of books

You need to stop and spawn servents each time you see a tree where as woodie just passively gains Wood at no discomfort or expense by chopping random trees he finds while doing other stuff.

[_zwb]

44 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

You need to stop and spawn servents each time you see a tree where as woodie just passively gains Wood at no discomfort or expense by chopping random trees he finds while doing other stuff.

You don't chop random trees, you plant hundreds of tree and chop at once

[flamboyant wolf]

53 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

You need to stop and spawn servents each time you see a tree where as woodie just passively gains Wood at no discomfort or expense by chopping random trees he finds while doing other stuff.

I feel like it's the opposite though, no? As Maxwell, you can just spawn a servant in a moment and do other stuff while it's working, as Woodie you gotta specifically go out of your way to chop. 

Don't get me wrong, I love Woodie, and I think that his wood gathering is really nice for some chill gameplay, but saying he's better at getting wood than a character who can semi-automate the whole process by pressing a button seems disingenuous. 

[AliceShiki]

I think I prefer Werebeaver for Mining over Woodcutting, like... Woodie is very fast cutting wood anyways, so no need to make it even faster. It just feels like a waste of transformation time/hunger/sanity to me.

Mining OTOH feels worthwhile with the Beaver, since it's not something you'll naturally do very quickly with Woodie.

[chirsg]

Woodie very front heavy character in terms of when he's the most powerful. Early game woodie is a monolith. I hazard to say that he is the best.
Also a lot of what he does once is unmatched. But later on, he isn't as fantastic.

I maintain that Woodie should be able to craft "Mastery Idols" that have a spoilage timer that allow him to achieve mastery on each of the forms when eaten, hidden behind rifts materials

- Pure brilliance + monster meat = mastery moose idol

- Brightshade husk + monster meat = Mastery beaver idol

- and something else for mastery goose

 

Super front heavy, but he's outmatched by even winona now when chopping wood. Let alone gathering

[Cheggf]

Maxwell is the one who passively gains wood. There is no difference between you holding chop on 1 tree 30 times or you holding chop on 30 trees 1 time. You're literally doing the same exact thing

[Jakepeng99]

5 hours ago, flamboyant wolf said:

feel like it's the opposite though, no? As Maxwell, you can just spawn a servant in a moment and do other stuff while it's working, as Woodie you gotta specifically go out of your way to chop. 

I mean like, you need to set the servant down and wait for him to do everything.

5 hours ago, _zwb said:

You don't chop random trees, you plant hundreds of tree and chop at once

No, you can chop random trees to passively gain wood.

[Evelo]

I don't think the Beaver is overrated. Do people actually use it?

[Frashaw27]

59 minutes ago, Evelo said:

I don't think the Beaver is overrated. Do people actually use it?

When I play Woodie, I use it a lot. It's really nice to turn into the beaver and just tear down a large swath of rocks or trees without having to worry about any outside dangers like tree guards or darkness or temperature (for the most part). I just find the beaver so good to use. That being said, neither Maxwell nor Woodie have anything on Wurt. While both do dominate getting said materials early in the game, Wurt can also scale infinitely allowing you to get a massive ton of merms and just bulldoze entire forests. If you think Maxwell is good replicating 6 people chopping trees, try 50.

15 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said:

f your playing at max efficency and don't mentally pause, maybe, but realistically, refining the boards isnt a problem since its time to think and chill down since most cant be non stop working.

Mentally pausing is good but it doesn't do much when you have to refine hundreds of boards so you can do some massive project. A task like that would take full day by hand jsut to squeeze out a little more product which you don't need if you cut down more then you need during your rampage. They're literally in direct competition with each other with one being blatantly more time efficient in the long run. They should allow interactions like attaching Lucy to the saw horse so that people don't feel like their skill point becomes redundant after a while.

[grm9]

38 minutes ago, Frashaw27 said:

That being said, neither Maxwell nor Woodie have anything on Wurt

maxwell's clones can pick items up unlike merms and beaver

9 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said:

I mean like, you need to set the servant down and wait for him to do everything

you can do whatever when it's doing stuff and come back whenever after it'll pick everything up for it to give it to you or for it to pick it up after it'll die

[ChintzyGnat]

Maxwell way better at cleaning the logs, but slower chopping. Better to use bearger and then maxwell to clean up. Or merms and just pick it up yourself despite it being longer. Log picking doesn't need to be optimized to such a high degree. 

Also maxwell can't melt any treeguards he spawns so that's 1 downside to him.

[Cheggf]

5 hours ago, Frashaw27 said:

When I play Woodie, I use it a lot. It's really nice to turn into the beaver and just tear down a large swath of rocks or trees without having to worry about any outside dangers like tree guards or darkness or temperature (for the most part). I just find the beaver so good to use. That being said, neither Maxwell nor Woodie have anything on Wurt. While both do dominate getting said materials early in the game, Wurt can also scale infinitely allowing you to get a massive ton of merms and just bulldoze entire forests. If you think Maxwell is good replicating 6 people chopping trees, try 50.

That's not true. Wurt's minions do not scale infinitely, they very quickly get in each-other's way and stop speeding things up. They also aren't people, they move and chop much slower than Maxwell's shadows. Wurt spends a ton of time & resources setting up a huge merm thing only to still be miles behind where Maxwell was on day 1. The only thing better than Maxwell is Bearger, who has a lot of drawbacks related to him.