Newest trailer

[Szczuku]

So apart from the obvious "How's that related to Willow and Wigfrid" the newest animation highlights either Klei's lack of attention to detail or just how rushed they were.

1) Is Wurt eating the meaty kabob or are those red bits supposed to be red caps?

2) According to Wx-78 pig houses are filled with pig-shaped furniture. Unfortunatelly not to be found in this short. Which is quite a shame as the pig house being much larger and fancier on the inside would've worked as a great visual gag.

3) The pig at the end isn't turning into a werepig despite the full moon. And that is despite the fact that earlier on in the animation the artists/writers had to make it turn into a werepig due to the full moon. I think Klei needs to stop abusing the "it's full moon so we don't have to animate characters in pitch-blackness" card, it's starting to take a toll on them

[Primalflower]

4 minutes ago, Szczuku said:

2) According to Wx-78 pig houses are filled with pig-shaped furniture

it's furniture shaped for a pig to comfortably use normally, not furniture shaped like a pig - we've already practically seen inside pig houses with hamlet, and their selection of furniture includes like 1 doorway thats shaped like a pig and nothing else of the caliber

i should also note that the kabobs sprite has little tan cube bits, that in my experience look the most like meat that would actually be on a kabob.. meanwhile..

she only has carrots and berry-looking chunks on hers.

you literally have 2 comparison kabobs to look at for evidence that wurt has a  veggie only one..

[lowercase skye]

9 minutes ago, Szczuku said:

So apart from the obvious "How's that related to Willow and Wigfrid" the newest animation highlights either Klei's lack of attention to detail or just how rushed they were.

I find specifically the short being used as evidence that Klei is being rushed really silly, it's the most complete thing about the entire update! It's even two times the length of usual animated shorts, 3 min compared to the usual ~1 min 30 seconds, If they rushed it out wouldn't they make it shorter...?

[Primalflower]

Seriously, why are some people so hung up over the wurt kabobs thing? there are so many things to point to as to how it's totally fine that i would hope to god that you would notice if you're already scrutinizing the video enough to notice it at all, theres a certain amount of cynicality that i feel like needs to be prescribed before you start making assumptions like that and not checking twice.

[Paxtonnnn]

I'm gonna be honest while some of these things in the trailer are weird, this feels like complaining for the sake of complaining

[BezKa]

I wouldn't say it's rushed, more like they just didn't bother with the details. It's pretty clear it's the hallowed nights animation, and it's not like the programmers make them. IDK why they didn't post it on time (whether it was unfinished or they didn't want to post two animations so soon after each other). I'm more upset we missed out on our girls getting to do stuff in a short, arguably the only good thing about skill tree updates (I can hate on them all I want but the one with Wolfgang Wormwood and Woodie was so fun). 

The shorts aren't particularly good at following canon, let's be honest. Especially around Walter, who didn't get gutted by Charlie despite there not being full moon in his short and now the pig didn't transform despite one

[Lovens]

38 minutes ago, Szczuku said:

3) The pig at the end isn't turning into a werepig despite the full moon. And that is despite the fact that earlier on in the animation the artists/writers had to make it turn into a werepig due to the full moon. I think Klei needs to stop abusing the "it's full moon so we don't have to animate characters in pitch-blackness" card, it's starting to take a toll on them

Was it only me or did anyone else find it weird to see a pigman transform into a werepig inside the pig house? In the game the reason they rush back home after dusk is because it's safe there and they don't transform unless they happen to be out.

[lowercase skye]

1 hour ago, Lovens said:

Was it only me or did anyone else find it weird to see a pigman transform into a werepig inside the pig house? In the game the reason they rush back home after dusk is because it's safe there and they don't transform unless they happen to be out.

That pigman was safe inside the house, it was stepping into the light of the full moon through the window that transformed them!

[somethin]

It's like the animation shorts doesn't have to completely follow game logic. People take these kind of thing too seriously sometimes. Sheesh.

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, somethin said:

It's like the animation shorts doesn't have to completely follow game logic. People take these kind of thing too seriously sometimes. Sheesh.

You say that- But… the world Klei animated to life in their short trailers is the version of the constant that their wanting to portray and for us the viewers to consume with our eyeballs..

Unfortunately whilst playing the actual game it is nowhere near as entertaining, engaging, or life like as the animated shorts that come from it.

And Ive often legitimately questioned if Klei wanted to make a video game, or an Animated Netflix Cartoon Series (which they’ve hinted at wanting to do for quite some time)

The thing is though, and as the most recent animated short showcases- the Swamp that’s animated to life in the Shorts & the one in the actual game have very little in common.

As seen in the short, Klei’s (animation team) wants to portray a swamp that has crows in the branches of Spikey Trees, graveyards with tombstones and picket fences, and these things don’t exist in actual gameplay unless You the player Create them (and we can’t even craft our own tombstones yet so there’s that..)

Obviously it’s much easier to make a short animated trailer then it is to program content into a game… Im not going to dispute that.

BUT, The constant we’re seeing in Klei’s animations isn’t anywhere close to the constant we the players experience in our actual gameplay.

And while sure, it may be hard to code interiors to pig houses so that they can openly invite us into their homes, the trailer shows us something that up until now… we hadn’t thought of before-

And that would be Pigmen still turning into Werepigs inside their houses.

So excuse me if I think it would be funny/horrifying if a future update made it so that Mutated Werepigs burst out of their houses on full moons.

Not only would that be Accurate to the animated trailer I just watched, but it would also allow the actual gameplay to be just as awesome as the animated trailers make the world out to be.

[Monkey Cups]

5 hours ago, Primalflower said:

Seriously, why are some people so hung up over the wurt kabobs thing? there are so many things to point to as to how it's totally fine that i would hope to god that you would notice if you're already scrutinizing the video enough to notice it at all, theres a certain amount of cynicality that i feel like needs to be prescribed before you start making assumptions like that and not checking twice.

All this fuss over Wurt eating food on a stick and not one mention about Wendy's being burnt. Some of the most unobservant observant people ever smh

[JustAFlower]

I don't know why but I think that this animated short is supposedly for Hallowed Nights, there's no Christmas spirit at all, I'm okay with that. I think that Klei is just sharing stories with us in those animated shorts when it's a quality of life update.

[Trips]

5 hours ago, Primalflower said:

Seriously, why are some people so hung up over the wurt kabobs thing? there are so many things to point to as to how it's totally fine that i would hope to god that you would notice if you're already scrutinizing the video enough to notice it at all, theres a certain amount of cynicality that i feel like needs to be prescribed before you start making assumptions like that and not checking twice.

 

2 hours ago, somethin said:

It's like the animation shorts doesn't have to completely follow game logic. People take these kind of thing too seriously sometimes. Sheesh.

Agreed, trailers or animatics for games usually eschew game logic for thematic/narrative importance.
 

 

5 hours ago, Szczuku said:

So apart from the obvious "How's that related to Willow and Wigfrid" the newest animation highlights either Klei's lack of attention to detail or just how rushed they were.

1) Is Wurt eating the meaty kabob or are those red bits supposed to be red caps?

2) According to Wx-78 pig houses are filled with pig-shaped furniture. Unfortunatelly not to be found in this short. Which is quite a shame as the pig house being much larger and fancier on the inside would've worked as a great visual gag.

3) The pig at the end isn't turning into a werepig despite the full moon. And that is despite the fact that earlier on in the animation the artists/writers had to make it turn into a werepig due to the full moon. I think Klei needs to stop abusing the "it's full moon so we don't have to animate characters in pitch-blackness" card, it's starting to take a toll on them

I don't think you should expect Klei to fact-check god knows how many in-game lines there are across all the characters for 100% lore consistency. 

The werepig inconsistency is less excusable, but it's also like a rather big nothingburger to scrutinize either way. It's not like this video was intended to be treated as gospel that pigs are sometimes immune to the full moon or whatnot. Like, the Hound in the RoT trailer is doggo-sized and not the size of the player like they are in-game, for comedic effect + cuteness factor. Creative liberties exist and shouldn't be thrown out of the window every time for in-game accuracy.

[Creatorofswamps]

I liked the short film, especially the way the characters interact with each other, the way Wes leads Woby, or the way Webber offers Wurt cookies, it's very cute. And the funny thing is, they literally have 6 characters in the party

[Szczuku]

Imagine if Webber's short didn't feature goats, his father didn't have a beard, there wasn't an alchemy engine in his study room and there was no evidence of Webber's ancestros being scottish

The trailer would've worked just fine without them but it was that attention to detail that made it even more special

Meanwhile, in the newest short, the one mob that werewolfs doesn't werewolf under the full moon

[Primalflower]

32 minutes ago, Szczuku said:

Meanwhile, in the newest short, the one mob that werewolfs doesn't werewolf under the full moon

do you genuinely think this is like... a blunder...? Do you think that in a short about a pigman turning into a werepig wherein the position of the moon behind or in front of clouds is relevant, that they didn't think about it on any level? this isn't a cartoon being obtuse on purpose, this is you reaching a damning conclusion and then sticking to it like your life depends on it no matter what extra context there could possibly be surrounding it that makes that conclusion absolutely ludicrous. How cynical do you have to be?

it takes two seconds to come up with an explanation as to why the pig isn't transforming in the final shot, the glassed-over moon may not show moon phases as well as a regular moon would, or maybe the alter visual works better if we see the full thing, or hell, maybe there's clouds in the way, exactly like what the short Already Had Depicted Could Happen. This is exactly like the charlie attack thing from before where you settle on an explanation for something and when that explanation stops making sense, you don't try to find another way to explain the events, you just call it bad

You literally saw a pigman in broad moonlight and didn't think "oh, it must not be a full moon, or there is otherwise something stopping him from transforming, since he is not a werepig", you instead thought "why isn't he a werepig! what a stupid decision from klei"

[lowercase skye]

21 minutes ago, Szczuku said:

Meanwhile, in the newest short, the one mob that werewolfs doesn't werewolf under the full moon

they literally make a point of showing the clouds parting during the werepig transformation scene and then when the pig's at the campfire it pans upwards to show that there are clouds in the sky directly above this location. you can watch the short and you will see pictures and images that are arranged to tell a story!

[Szczuku]

36 minutes ago, Primalflower said:

this isn't a cartoon being obtuse on purpose, this is you reaching a damning conclusion and then sticking to it like your life depends on it

This is you defending Klei like your life depends on it, as if 2023 hasn't been their most disorganized year up to date, warranting criticism. Or do you think that grown men will get sad and cry because a person on their forums dares criticize them?

23 minutes ago, finn from human said:

there are clouds in the sky directly above this location

Directly not above that location. If anything the final shot tells us that there's a clearing in the clouds directly above the camp, with the clouds being somewhere in the horizon

[Primalflower]

you literally saw a pig outside in the night not transforming into a werepig and thought "this is a mistake on klei's part" and not "if he isn't transforming into a werepig, then theres probably something stopping him from transforming, like the moon not being full." I don't know how much more negatively biased you can get, it's literally the werepig short where the moon's position is relevant and called attention to

15 minutes ago, Szczuku said:

This is you defending Klei like your life depends on it, as if 2023 hasn't been their most disorganized year up to date, warranting criticism. Or do you think that grown men will get sad and cry because a person on their forums dares criticize them?

i have no idea what you're talking about

[lowercase skye]

7 minutes ago, Szczuku said:

This is you defending Klei like your life depends on it, as if 2023 hasn't been their most disorganized year up to date, warranting criticism. Or do you think that grown men will get sad and cry because a person on their forums dares criticize them?

really weird thing to say unprompted. none of us were talking about this

[Catuna_]

7 hours ago, Lovens said:

Was it only me or did anyone else find it weird to see a pigman transform into a werepig inside the pig house? In the game the reason they rush back home after dusk is because it's safe there and they don't transform unless they happen to be out.

Walter made this story up, it didn't actually happen. You cannot tell me that a Pigman would just be holding a knife using it properly, that just feels like a part of his story that he added to make it more "spooky" even though he drops it while transforming. So holes in the story's logic isn't really... a big deal.

[Jakepeng99]

7 hours ago, Szczuku said:

) The pig at the end isn't turning into a werepig despite the full moon. And that is despite the fact that earlier on in the animation the artists/writers had to make it turn into a werepig due to the full moon. I think Klei needs to stop abusing the "it's full moon so we don't have to animate characters in pitch-blackness" card, it's starting to take a toll on them

?

The animation was pretty great, i dont sde where this is coming from.

[Russian_Philin]

In general, I don’t understand these quibbles about the short film, which is positioned as a funny scary story by Walter. Things there are embellished, of course, in order to inflame passions for the audience.

I don't want to say that it's not worth pointing out any errors in animation or inconsistencies with the plot, but I repeat, this is just a funny hyperbolized animated story. No more, no less. You might as well be outraged about why the narrator's voice appears in some animated short films, or even why the characters have the voices of real people and not musical instruments.

[Retepeter]

the pig didn't become a werepig because the moon isn't fully up, it's quite literally dusk also he made/is about to make a deal with the shadow watcher for him to become nightmare werepig, he may have a reversed case of turning were, where he needs shadows instead moonlight to transform 

[grm9]

30 minutes ago, Retepeter said:

he made/is about to make a deal with the shadow watcher for him to become nightmare werepig

that doesn't make any sense considering he was pretty much imprisoned for stealing the pure horror out of the underground of the underground