Creatorofswamps Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 hours ago, goblinball said: I predict that the next update removes wurt Every time I hear a person for some reason wants the poor Wurt was deleted, to here's what's going on: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1661985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Better be a rift update and it probably will have a very short beta so we can have a character update right after because 4 years of reworks wasn't enough. 5 hours ago, Theukon-dos said: snip And we could have just had an 85 damage brightshade sword and the reaper with scaling mechanic without the need of convoluted atrocious formulas to calculate your damage just so you can fill up a few skill trees with more planar damage, it's getting ridiculous. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1661991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Theukon-dos said: A new mechanic that everyone and their mother hates. To which Klei guts the feature into a shell of it's former self instead of properly addressing the issues with it. Pirate raids in a nut shell 2 hours ago, gamehun20 said: I just had a dream about what the beta is going to hold its going to be cave,savanna and something else biome(i already forgot) rework and all 3 are going to be in separate betas released at the same time I hope they do a puffin update 1 hour ago, Antynomity said: Better be a rift update and it probably will have a very short beta so we can have a character update right after because 4 years of reworks wasn't enough. And we could have just had an 85 damage brightshade sword and the reaper with scaling mechanic without the need of convoluted atrocious formulas to calculate your damage just so you can fill up a few skill trees with more planar damage, it's getting ridiculous. How come you keep editing replies to say snip? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1661997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxtonnnn Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Not sure why people still think the "Core Game Enhancement" updates aren't the skill trees considering there is no other category the skill tree update could've possibly fit into at this point Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milordo Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 7 hours ago, goblinball said: I predict that the next update removes wurt Dst players seeing basic progression and power scaling for the first time and calling it power creep is funny After 10 years of what Klei did to the design of Don't Starve? Yes. You would be blind to not see it. 7 hours ago, Theukon-dos said: Normally I'd agree with you. Infact, this is an argument I've said in favor of buffing brightshade gear myself. But sense Klei confirmed outright that Post-Rift content is an anti-powercreep measure, not this time. Ignoring all the... other problems with the concept for a moment, Klei making rift content to address power creep is quite literally the textbook definition of power creep. Klei felt that recent content updates where too strong for one reason or another. So now they're adding more purposefully stronger content to keep that old strong content in check. That is quite literally what power is. Give it another 5-10 years, and then Klei will be releasing Rifts 2: Electric Bogaloo because they felt that the content added in and after the from beyond arc also got too strong. And they even said "we're not doing powercreep, we're making easier all the game before the rifts and harder after" which is the very definition of powercreep. What a sweet lie from Klei xD Adressing powercreep by doing powercreep, lol. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Milordo said: Adressing powercreep by doing powercreep, lol Isn't everything powercreep in the end? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 52 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: How come you keep editing replies to say snip? So my replies don't take up half the screen space for readers. 45 minutes ago, Paxtonnnn said: Not sure why people still think the "Core Game Enhancement" updates aren't the skill trees considering there is no other category the skill tree update could've possibly fit into at this point Because I have hope that this game will finally change for once in 10 years and we won't have the same bad predictable worldgen as 2014, old and newer content getting rebalanced and changed so it's not so convoluted to figure out etc, skill trees don't help new players at all solve all of that BS and just give them free power ups because 'Why not?', so uninspired for a 'Core Game Enhancement Update'. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_NiX Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Wortox, Webber and Wurt. Monsters update is my dream. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxtonnnn Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, Antynomity said: -snip- I definitely see where you're coming from, but I'm more referring to how someone said we haven't even received the first of the Core Game Enhancement updates and how I've seen some confusion before on what category the skill tree update fits in. I'd definitely prefer something else under 'Core Game Enhancement' but it's pretty clear now what it meant in this particular roadmap. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milordo Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Paxtonnnn said: Not sure why people still think the "Core Game Enhancement" updates aren't the skill trees considering there is no other category the skill tree update could've possibly fit into at this point It makes sense but man if this makes things even more sad and depressing. 2023 is a year to forgot and delete for Don't Starve. 36 minutes ago, gamehun20 said: Isn't everything powercreep in the end? On what circumstances you're asking? Base game? Rifts? 1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said: How come you keep editing replies to say snip? Quote someone and then delete everything of his message with a "snip". It took me a lot to figure it out long time ago, lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropo Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I predict they'll buff seeds by giving them a single extra point of hunger, and it will lead to a mass exodus of users because it would violate the uncompromising nature of the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bughead Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 man i forgor the roadmap :skull: Something makes me think at some point they're going to do rifts and skill trees at the same time *cough* Max *cough*. But the QoL sounds nice and something that would take quite a long time to do, maybe even rift additions Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said: I hope they do a puffin update 1 hour ago, Master_NiX said: Wortox, Webber and Wurt. Monsters update is my dream. I'd rather see the Wurt, Webber and Wendy skill trees in one update.I really want to see their interaction in animation! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_NiX Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, Creatorofswamps said: I'd rather see the Wurt, Webber and Wendy skill trees in one update.I really want to see their interaction in animation! yea, but I can see Pigs chasing them, and Wortox coming up with a new disguise for both of them, because he is a clever boy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Master_NiX said: yea, but I can see Pigs chasing them, and Wortox coming up with a new disguise for both of them, because he is a clever boy. I won't mind all this) . but if you ask, Vortex is not really a child, so I think that Wendy more suitable for this trio ^^ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaik Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I can understand people not liking the concept of skill trees. But the skill trees UNQUESTIONABLY make woodie and wormwood so much more fun to play as. So I completely support them as they do expand playstyle variety and just make the game fun. Skill trees are not convulted in this game, they're very basic where you can unlock much of it when you're maxed on points. Not to mention you're not meant to have a full skill tree as a new player unless your exploiting it. You can argue about the Wolfgang skill tree all you want, it's obviously not like the other two. But it does add some things that changes his playstyle (dumbells, whistle) something that encourages some different weapon use (the planar damage thing) and then just some uninspiring filler. If skill trees can do for some of the other undesirable characters what it did for woodie and wormwood, then they're unquestionably a great thing for the game. I don't think skill trees will supercede other content from happening either Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Kwaik said: I don't think skill trees will supercede other content from happening either They already did. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonboooorn Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 47 minutes ago, Antynomity said: They already did. Im fine with skill trees updates as long as they replace QoL updates, not rifts ones. Man, Im so tired of, how long its been? 4 years of character updates? I really hoped we will finally get updates that are world themed for once. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroban Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Considering the last update which adds a sanity bonfire (The lamb idol), and the theory that these skill trees update will come with characters doing something in common (last one was them getting wood), my theory is that we will get the skill trees update for Walter, Willow, and Warly. I can see these 3 getting paired with the whole "setting up a camp" thing, the 3 share the faster cooking trait, etc I also feel like these characters are the ones that require an update the most. Walter is harder to play than a ******* Wes and got left behind even more by the "300 hitting aoe Wolfgang's dumbbells" and the Brightshade staff; Willow has been one of the least played characters because of her bad reputation and her bear is useless against new mobs; And Warly went like 2 "tiers down" because planar damage and defense affect his garlic and pepper spices, probably even his Volt Goat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaik Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Antynomity said: They already did. There's no way you can tell me that the amount of time, effort, and resources that went into Woody/Wormwood/Wolfgang is comparable to what went into Terrors Below or something. Regardless I don't think the argument "skill tree bad" is fair because people want more content. I think people making the argument that they'd rather have more new content than skill tree balance is reasonable but worded different. I guess at the end of the day the question becomes just how much effort/manpower does it take. To institute skill trees, and I'd wager to guess it's far less than a full new content patch. So I don't think the two should be mutually exclusive Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Creatorofswamps said: I'd rather see the Wurt, Webber and Wendy skill trees in one update.I really want to see their interaction in animation! Walter: "Guess I'll die then..." Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Walter: "Guess I'll die then..." As far as I know, he doesn't really like messing around with "babies" much:D Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, Creatorofswamps said: As far as I know, he doesn't really like messing around with "babies" much:D From what's mentioned in quotes he sort of takes on the older brother role of the group making sure the other kids(and Willow) stay out of trouble Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 more character skill trees Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracian Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I'll put a coin on new skill trees. Maybe Willow and Winona since they were among the first characters to be refreshed and maybe... mmmm... I don't know... Wortox maybe ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150691-predictions-for-the-next-beta/page/2/#findComment-1662069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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