Varrgas Posted November 19, 2024 Share Posted November 19, 2024 (edited) 17 hours ago, WenericMember said: Possible, but "A few" means 2-3 to me, 4 is a stretch but reasonable, but I'd be concerned about the state of an update if "a few weeks" somehow spiraled into a month. We shall see though. Yep, same for me, if it's 4 weeks, so a month, we aren't really in the "a few" case anymore. Or we just overthink about this and It's just a matter of semantics ^^' I think that a little message would be a good think, even if it must be delayed, I prefer to know Edited November 19, 2024 by Varrgas 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 19, 2024 Share Posted November 19, 2024 3 hours ago, Varrgas said: Yep, same for me, if it's 4 weeks, so a month, we aren't really in the "a few" case anymore. Or we just overthink about this and It's just a matter of semantics ^^' I think that a little message would be a good think, even if it must be delayed, I prefer to know I think the last time a beta was significantly delayed they discussed it somewhere in this thread, so I have hope its either this week or we'll get some sort of message. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 (edited) Scrappy Scavengers was pretty underwhelming in hindsight. The skill tree changes were nice, but ultimately very minor in the grand scheme of things, most of the more notable additions where so incredibly lategame they'll rarely be used and While the Junkyard setpiece is cool, it really doesn't have a lot of unique items. IMO the only really relevant addition was the acid rain. Ultimately, the update felt like it should've had a skill tree or two attatched. That said, I wonder what the QOL in this update is about, so far this year we've had megabasing and Ocean. Edited November 20, 2024 by WenericMember 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 18 hours ago, WenericMember said: I think the last time a beta was significantly delayed they discussed it somewhere in this thread, so I have hope its either this week or we'll get some sort of message. I kinda feel like if they don't say anything about it today we'll probably be waiting until next week. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 8 hours ago, WenericMember said: Scrappy Scavengers was pretty underwhelming in hindsight. The skill tree changes were nice, but ultimately very minor in the grand scheme of things, most of the more notable additions where so incredibly lategame they'll rarely be used and While the Junkyard setpiece is cool, it really doesn't have a lot of unique items. This is certainly an update that was geared toward lategame. It helped me with a lot of gripes I had with the endgame, especially storage with the elasticspacer and redoing the champ over and over got massively leveraged to be easier (from only needing 1 static, to gleams/charged glass being easier to farm, to Wagstaff finding the restrained static easier...). The optimizations were also very nice for an endgame context, alongside the tweaks to the skill trees (Wormwood got brambleshade armor from this update!) I also personally like it for smaller things, especially Wobot. Its basically a one stop solution to a lot of niche sorting issues, particularly utilizing its unloaded functionality. Since Winbot lacks this, Wobot is still the best way to sort items out from areas you don’t visit frequently/long enough for winbot to do. I myself currently use it for my 20+ spider den farm, and I just leave wobot in a position where I can easily repair it if it “dies” (for reference, when Wobot runs out of durability unloaded, it will automatically break at the location you placed it down as a failsafe). I think its one of those updates you are not really going to get a ton of value out of early-midgame, but I feel it has a ton of lategame QOL and I really appreciate it for that. 5 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 (edited) I can't remember what time the stream announcements are, and how long before we can confidentally say there won't be a stream this week. There's also the chance they aren't doing a stream this update for some reason, but who knows. I'm really starting get concerned with the update. 3 hours ago, Maxil20 said: This is certainly an update that was geared toward lategame. It helped me with a lot of gripes I had with the endgame, especially storage with the elasticspacer and redoing the champ over and over got massively leveraged to be easier (from only needing 1 static, to gleams/charged glass being easier to farm, to Wagstaff finding the restrained static easier...). The optimizations were also very nice for an endgame context, alongside the tweaks to the skill trees (Wormwood got brambleshade armor from this update!) I also personally like it for smaller things, especially Wobot. Its basically a one stop solution to a lot of niche sorting issues, particularly utilizing its unloaded functionality. Since Winbot lacks this, Wobot is still the best way to sort items out from areas you don’t visit frequently/long enough for winbot to do. I myself currently use it for my 20+ spider den farm, and I just leave wobot in a position where I can easily repair it if it “dies” (for reference, when Wobot runs out of durability unloaded, it will automatically break at the location you placed it down as a failsafe). I think its one of those updates you are not really going to get a ton of value out of early-midgame, but I feel it has a ton of lategame QOL and I really appreciate it for that. Yeah, I can understand that. But I think it would've been better spreading out that lategame QOL over the year's updates while having Scrappy Scavengers focus on something more accessible. Edited November 20, 2024 by WenericMember 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazuliofArt Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 Im really really nervosuly hoping they give us the beta tomorrow. Im a bit sad because they teased us saying they have something for us "in a few weeks" and "we should have something for you relatively soon" and now its been a Month since then without communication. Does anyone know what time they typically release or announce the betas? I know its thursday but i mean what time of day roughly 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 In the past, they've given good reasons for delay. Obviously I want to play the beta too, and I am looking forward to seeing what they have been working on, but if it isn't tomorrow I won't be heartbroken 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 31 minutes ago, WenericMember said: I can't remember what time the stream announcements are, and how long before we can confidentally say there won't be a stream this week. There's also the chance they aren't doing a stream this update for some reason, but who knows. I'm really starting get concerned with the update. There is a chance we get it shadow dropped but they've been doing streams before content lately and to my knowledge they haven't announced those the day of but I could be wrong. I feel like what's most likely to happen is that we get a stream date tomorrow since a stream wasn't announced today. 34 minutes ago, WenericMember said: Yeah, I can understand that. But I think it would've been better spreading out that lategame QOL over the year's updates while having Scrappy Scavengers focus on something more accessible. I think it's more so a case of the early to mid game more or less being finished already so their primary focus being on creating a end game which makes sense as that'll need a lot more attention for now. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 7 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: There is a chance we get it shadow dropped but they've been doing streams before content lately and to my knowledge they haven't announced those the day of but I could be wrong. I feel like what's most likely to happen is that we get a stream date tomorrow since a stream wasn't announced today. I think it's more so a case of the early to mid game more or less being finished already so their primary focus being on creating a end game which makes sense as that'll need a lot more attention for now. Yeah, I don't disagree, I just think it could've been paced better. Perhaps, If we don't have anything tomorrow then I have no idea what's going on. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 35 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: I think it's more so a case of the early to mid game more or less being finished already so their primary focus being on creating a end game which makes sense as that'll need a lot more attention for now. I mean sure I guess it makes sense to make super late game stuff for players who have done everything there is to do to so that they still stay engaged with the game…. But at the exact same time most games as a service (which you can argue rather or not DST qualifies as or not…) designs updates around Early to Mid Game content for players so they can pull in new players with new content. as much as people hate Fortnite for whatever reason, the developers know how to keep players engaged by doing things like blowing up the game map and building a brand new one so players who became overly familiar with one season, has to start fresh in the next. Although both were considered “Flops” Marvels Avengers and SS Kill the Justice League both tried to keep players engaged by doing Episodic “Seasons” of content. it’s extremely unhealthy for a game like DST to focus so heavily on content roughly maybe 10% of the playerbase will ever reach. But that’s just my opinion. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow soul 3 Posted November 20, 2024 Share Posted November 20, 2024 Looks like a drawing video tonight. Cool stuff, but I was excited to hear about an update. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Hollow soul 3 said: Looks like a drawing video tonight. Cool stuff, but I was excited to hear about an update. Source? I don't think there's been an announcement either way. Edit: Ah, they're live. Weird there was no announcement on the forum. Edit 2: The art streams might actually be why the beta stream schedule has changed, so I still have some hope for tommorow. Edited November 21, 2024 by WenericMember 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said: I mean sure I guess it makes sense to make super late game stuff for players who have done everything there is to do to so that they still stay engaged with the game…. But at the exact same time most games as a service (which you can argue rather or not DST qualifies as or not…) designs updates around Early to Mid Game content for players so they can pull in new players with new content. as much as people hate Fortnite for whatever reason, the developers know how to keep players engaged by doing things like blowing up the game map and building a brand new one so players who became overly familiar with one season, has to start fresh in the next. Although both were considered “Flops” Marvels Avengers and SS Kill the Justice League both tried to keep players engaged by doing Episodic “Seasons” of content. it’s extremely unhealthy for a game like DST to focus so heavily on content roughly maybe 10% of the playerbase will ever reach. But that’s just my opinion. True but it's not like they stopped making early game content they're just not making as much to likely avoid over bloating the early game which could overwhelm newer players. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTUser Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 OH BOY TODAYS THE DAY 11 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapchrap Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 10 minutes ago, DSTUser said: OH BOY TODAYS THE DAY Bro it's like 10 pm for them what type of slavery is going on over there 6 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted November 21, 2024 Author Share Posted November 21, 2024 1 hour ago, DSTUser said: OH BOY TODAYS THE DAY 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 (edited) Finally I was beginning to lose hope. PRAYING for a combo of Walter, Wendy and Wortox in regards to skill trees. Other than that some biome reworks would be great. Edited November 21, 2024 by WenericMember 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 1 hour ago, WenericMember said: Finally I was beginning to lose hope. PRAYING for a combo of Walter, Wendy and Wortox in regards to skill trees. Other than that some biome reworks would be great. Werent 2 skill trees only supposed to come out? Or am I just misremembering stuff 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 Just now, Reiko24 said: Werent 2 skill trees only supposed to come out? Or am I just misremembering stuff I don't think we have anything concrete either way, but I was more meaning any grouping of. So either Wendy/Walter, Walter/Wortox, Wortox/Wendy. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 1 minute ago, WenericMember said: I don't think we have anything concrete either way, but I was more meaning any grouping of. So either Wendy/Walter, Walter/Wortox, Wortox/Wendy. Oh okay. Yeah those three definitely need skill trees. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdsaax Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 Probably I shouldn't hold my breath for Wortox skilltree considering how they made a gap between premium characters... But my red fella has been done so dirty by Wanda who stole and improved on his premise +he remains the same for entirety of the game without progression/synergy Btw buying Wormwood to trade healing items for bramble husks feels like buying DLC for my DLC character because the only item Wortox synergizes with is locked behind another character [*] 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1757992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow soul 3 Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Lordowsky said: But my red fella has been done so dirty by Wanda who stole and improved on his premise +he remains the same for entirety of the game without progression/synergy For real. And for a paid character too. Im do annoyed that I spent money on something worse than the base game survivors. They're taking forever to update him too. Love the game, love the team, but this is bs. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1758000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidasHow Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 Beta today? It has to be today 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1758001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, MidasHow said: Beta today? It has to be today Yes, tis today, look at the previous page. Some posted the updated staging branch. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150622-beta-today/page/45/#findComment-1758002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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