skill tree idea Edited 08-02-2024 Webber skill tree suggestions also Klei I don’t care about credit add or take inspiration from any of my suggestions as you please all I ask is you take them into consideration+Fan ideas welcome(great place to use to make everyone happy)

[Creatingabe1125]

On 11/3/2024 at 2:07 PM, Dr.Webber said:

The spider abilities

What is it expanding upon exactly? But I do have a few problems with the abilities. I would be more okay with the crop boost if it didn’t only exist for Webber and it was accessible for all the characters so it doesn’t feel like Webber just got something that makes him feel more superior in farming than he should be, but also I feel like there could be a better, more shattery skill for the shattered spider. The tree jam skill feels weird atleast to me for a few reasons. Besides that I just want to make sure the tree jam is balanced like is there a cooldown to this ability and what can this tree jam do exactly. The panic one it seems a bit random but also seems like it’s going to be similar to a stun lock if there’s a lot of these depth dwellers.

On 11/3/2024 at 2:07 PM, Dr.Webber said:

Why not 

Because it feels unfair to lock revival to the rift content.

On 11/3/2024 at 2:07 PM, Dr.Webber said:

 I was thinking different ways of achieving the same thing. Also, there’s One less craft for Wilson’s lunar stuff. 

So like woodie or willow? Yeah but it’s not that different to be considered different as they basically do the same thing except you can’t turn infused glass into moon glass as what else would to transmute it to and the infused form would just spoil into normal glass.

[Dr.Webber]

49 minutes ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

So like woodie or willow

How is Woodie’s alignments achieving the same thing in different ways 

49 minutes ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

What is it expanding upon exactly?

I meant the abilities Webber had the expand upon the fact that he’s part spider

49 minutes ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Because it feels unfair to lock revival to the rift content.

I think I thought of a bar way to do the revival thing at a red gem and 2 nightmare fuel to the homemade den craft each spider revive cost 10% power before it needs to be refueled

Edited November 6, 2024 by Dr.Webber

[Dr.Webber]

any ideas for what sort of structure would convert pigskin into spider glands

Also, do you have any ideas for the two more still craft items?

also, any ideas for what buffs to give to spiders with the items made with garden crops?

[Creatingabe1125]

On 11/5/2024 at 6:37 PM, Dr.Webber said:

How is Woodie’s alignments achieving the same thing in different ways 

I first thought of them of being similar but thinking about it again they’re not that similar. Though he does get neutrality with the shadows or the moon except the neutrality is for the moon to not turn him into a were creature without choice.

On 11/5/2024 at 6:37 PM, Dr.Webber said:

I meant the abilities Webber had the expand upon the fact that he’s part spider

I mean he is part spider and we know more about spiders then unatural energy.

On 11/5/2024 at 6:37 PM, Dr.Webber said:

I think I thought of a bar way to do the revival thing at a red gem and 2 nightmare fuel to the homemade den craft each spider revive cost 10% power before it needs to be refueled

Not sure about adding it to the base craft though.

On 11/7/2024 at 4:28 AM, Dr.Webber said:

any ideas for what sort of structure would convert pigskin into spider glands

Also, do you have any ideas for the two more still craft items?

also, any ideas for what buffs to give to spiders with the items made with garden crops?

Why would you convert pig skin into spider glands though?

no

no

[Dr.Webber]

6 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

I mean he is part spider and we know more about spiders then unatural energy.

And everything I suggested for abilities relayed to unnatural energy has to do with stuff that we know about it

 

6 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Not sure about adding it to the base craft though.

Why not?

 

6 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Why would you convert pig skin into spider glands though?

Because it’s an alternative to killing spiders to get spider glands and killing spiders seems out of character 

and pigs are bullies+do you have any better ideas?

[Creatingabe1125]

18 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

Because it’s an alternative to killing spiders to get spider glands and killing spiders seems out of character 

and pigs are bullies+do you have any better ideas?

I think pig skin is more valuable than spider glands and also they don’t have any connection. Unless I was desperate for spider glands or had too much pig skin and not enough spider I wouldn’t convert pig skin into spider glands. And no but I don’t see why besides those two specific reasons I just gave.

18 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

And everything I suggested for abilities relayed to unnatural energy has to do with stuff that we know about it

 

I can kind of see what you mean but how can you make a skill based on just one event that doesn’t say much about the connection reasonable without using some theory? Also I don’t think Webber even knows much about the unnatural energy, he might have seen it both on moon quay and when he saw his first Constant spider but I don’t think he understands it much nor has any good reason to try and understand it as he’s not as curious as wagstaff.

18 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

Why not?

I don’t see the revival as what the homemade den is only for and it would be like if you included the items used to upgrade merm king as a part of the way to get the merm king.

[Dr.Webber]

43 minutes ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

I think pig skin is more valuable than spider glands and also they don’t have any connection. Unless I was desperate for spider glands or had too much pig skin and not enough spider I wouldn’t convert pig skin into spider glands. And no but I don’t see why besides those two specific reasons I just gave.

What if Webber could sacrifice an amount of his max hunger to make a spider gland

 

47 minutes ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

I can kind of see what you mean but how can you make a skill based on just one event that doesn’t say much about the connection reasonable without using some theory? Also I don’t think Webber even knows much about the unnatural energy, he might have seen it both on moon quay and when he saw his first Constant spider but I don’t think he understands it much nor has any good reason to try and understand it as he’s not as curious as wagstaff.

We can use the effect it it has on the moon key

i was thinking the first time would be accidental and they would be like what is this and start figuring out

55 minutes ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

don’t see the revival as what the homemade den is only for and it would be like if you included the items used to upgrade merm king as a part of the way to get the merm king.

Well unless you have any ideas for for the other two abilities what are related to spiders then I think I’ll keep it like this 

also I feel like if we were adding them it would change the den visually like it does for merm king

[Creatingabe1125]

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

What if Webber could sacrifice an amount of his max hunger to make a spider gland

 

How would you recover this lost max hunger?

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

Well unless you have any ideas for for the other two abilities what are related to spiders then I think I’ll keep it like this 

also I feel like if we were adding them it would change the den visually like it does for merm king

A trinket to allow a homemade den to be rebuilt and all previous spiders are still connected to it incase something like a boss breaks the den? Probably not needed as why would a boss be near those dens unless you’re careless about that but still an idea.

Are you talking about trinkets or base craft?

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

We can use the effect it it has on the moon key

i was thinking the first time would be accidental and they would be like what is this and start figuring out

I meant how would it be reasonable to make a skill off of one thing.

Is there good reason to think that as they have never had an encounter with it again that affected them? Also they seem fine with how they are right now so what motive would they have for investigating it?

 

[Dr.Webber]

16 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

How would you recover this lost max hunger?

Oh shoot I didn’t think that far about it 

 

16 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Are you talking about trinkets or base craft?

Trinkets

 

16 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

I meant how would it be reasonable to make a skill off of one thing

What I’m saying is we can use the effects of the unnatural portal as another point of reference

 

16 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Is there good reason to think that as they have never had an encounter with it again that affected them? Also they seem fine with how they are right now so what motive would they have for investigating it?

If it happened to you wouldn’t it peek your curiosity

[Creatingabe1125]

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

If it happened to you wouldn’t it peek your curiosity

Maybe but not sure how far I would go to satisfy the curiosity especially if it’s not affecting me rn. Webber doesn’t have much reason to investigate it as he seems content, has never seen it again nor shown curiosity in it, and even if he was curious he probably would go as far as people like wagstaff, Wilson, or Maxwell unless he was constantly being tempted to by it.

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

Oh shoot I didn’t think that far about it 

Okay, so are you going to have another idea with it or are you scraping it?

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

Trinkets

My idea for that part was it would be seen inside the den through the opening.

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

What I’m saying is we can use the effects of the unnatural portal as another point of reference

Okay but doesn’t it seem a bit like a stretch to make a skill based on one thing that was seen in a short and is now irrelevant to Webber. (I know it fused both human Webber and the spider but that was long ago and nothing related with the energy has happened to Webber ever since.)

[Dr.Webber]

1 hour ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Maybe but not sure how far I would go to satisfy the curiosity especially if it’s not affecting me rn. Webber doesn’t have much reason to investigate it as he seems content, has never seen it again nor shown curiosity in it, and even if he was curious he probably would go as far as people like wagstaff, Wilson, or Maxwell unless he was constantly being tempted to by it

He wouldn’t have to go far

 

1 hour ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Okay, so are you going to have another idea with it or are you scraping it?

Haven’t decided yet

1 hour ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Okay but doesn’t it seem a bit like a stretch to make a skill based on one thing that was seen in a short and is now irrelevant to Webber. (I know it fused both human Webber and the spider but that was long ago and nothing related with the energy has happened to Webber ever since.)

Maybe but I feel like they should at least be something small to expand  upon it

[Creatingabe1125]

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

Maybe but I feel like they should at least be something small to expand  upon it

I don’t think there’s good reason to add it to his skill tree as it has very little importance to his character lore wise. Also isn’t expanding upon the lore theorizing technically?

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

He wouldn’t have to go far

So what would he have to do? We don’t know enough about the connection between the two so there’s not much you can add to make it make sense without theorizing.

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

Haven’t decided yet

Okay

[Dr.Webber]

2 minutes ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

I don’t think there’s good reason to add it to his skill tree as it has very little importance to his character lore wise. Also isn’t expanding upon the lore theorizing technically?

I’m expanding upon an aspect of what caused him to be what he is today

 

5 minutes ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

So what would he have to do? We don’t know enough about the connection between the two so there’s not much you can add to make it make sense without theorizing

I don’t know I was sort of thinking that he just noticed that he can tap into and he does

Also, I don’t think I have to deal with the connection between the two I think it just has to do with they’re infused with this power so they’re able to use it

[Creatingabe1125]

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

I’m expanding upon an aspect of what caused him to be what he is today

Okay but that energy isn’t really important to Webber anymore as if it was it surely would have been brought up another time or more about it would have appeared. You could also say that Wurt was probably a goat before and should have a skill about it or wormwood would have a skill about hamlet since he was born there and has connections with hamlet with that logic.

2 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

I don’t know I was sort of thinking that he just noticed that he can tap into and he does

Also, I don’t think I have to deal with the connection between the two I think it just has to do with they’re infused with this power so they’re able to use it

The idk you said supports my reason of we don’t know enough about it/its connection with Webber for it to make sense to make a skill about it.

Both, there’s not enough evidence to make a skill or any ideas likely enough to be worthy of a skill as the only evidence you have is a spider with purple energy around it for about 10 seconds which doesn’t seem like enough to be a lore based skill. And the ability to control unnatural energy isn’t backed by anything and it actually seems more like you can’t as when wagstaff tried to make a portal it failed as he wasn’t able to control the energy which then turned to unnatural energy.

[Dr.Webber]

2 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Okay but that energy isn’t really important to Webber anymore as if it was it surely would have been brought up another time or more about it would have appeared. You could also say that Wurt was probably a goat before and should have a skill about it or wormwood would have a skill about hamlet since he was born there and has connections with hamlet with that logic.

The only times we got character Pacific stuff in general is reworks and skill trees  and they’ve expanded upon less before, for example Willows skill tree sword made her a fire witch and pre-skill tree all we had that suggested willow might be a witch as a top hat skin

Wurt is a first or more generation merm 

Hamlet is just a location 

3 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

The idk you said supports my reason of we don’t know enough about it/its connection with Webber for it to make sense to make a skill about it.

Both, there’s not enough evidence to make a skill or any ideas likely enough to be worthy of a skill as the only evidence you have is a spider with purple energy around it for about 10 seconds which doesn’t seem like enough to be a lore based skill. And the ability to control unnatural energy isn’t backed by anything and it actually seems more like you can’t as when wagstaff tried to make a portal it failed as he wasn’t able to control the energy which then turned to unnatural energy.

The I don’t know is just the hypothetical why he would first tap into it in Canon

I disagree. Also, it’s four minutes.

OK maybe not controlling it but something related to it

[Creatingabe1125]

6 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

The I don’t know is just the hypothetical why he would first tap into it in Canon

I disagree. Also, it’s four minutes.

OK maybe not controlling it but something related to it

Okay but that is probably a sign that we don’t have enough info to make a skill about it that makes sense.

what part do you disagree about as that’s the only info we have and that seems like very little info to work with. Also what do you mean as the short lasts for about 2 and a half minutes and I counted how long it had the purple energy and it came to about 10 seconds.

Okay but then what else would be related to it, make sense for Webber, and not be about controlling it?

6 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

The only times we got character Pacific stuff in general is reworks and skill trees  and they’ve expanded upon less before, for example Willows skill tree sword made her a fire witch and pre-skill tree all we had that suggested willow might be a witch as a top hat skin

Wurt is a first or more generation merm 

Hamlet is just a location 

Actually I found out there was a bit more than that relating her with witches, her name willow is connected with witchcraft magic, she also has a Bernie that’s also inspired by haunted dolls that harm or protect certain people, and she has fire magic but that pyrokinesis based off something else that Bernie is also based off of.

still has horns which could relate her with goats.

yeah but it has the plant which made him and he also grew up there with those plants and creatures from hamlet.

Edited November 12, 2024 by Creatingabe1125

[Dr.Webber]

9 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Okay but that is probably a sign that we don’t have enough info to make a skill about it that makes sense

We have enough evidence for the ability but not what the first instance which if you think about it how they canonically first unlock each of the skills doesn’t matter as far as we can tell besides the skills You have to do certain in game stuff to unlock, and even then we don’t know that canonical intimate details

 

10 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

what part do you disagree about as that’s the only info we have and that seems like very little info to work with. Also what do you mean as the short lasts for about 2 and a half minutes and I counted how long it had the purple energy and it came to about 10 seconds.

I’m at disagree. We don’t have much to work with. I’m just saying that for something small with how much digging I’ve been doing it should be enough.

never mind you were closer I checked again, but just to make sure did you lean the whole time that unnatural energy was on the screen , just when it affecting the spider, or Webber (I got 16 seconds when I checked again)

11 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Okay but then what else would be related to it, make sense for Webber, and not be about controlling it?

Wealthy could take a piece of himself like a Like something easy enough to heal back up from it already being infused with unnatural energy using the itsy bitsy nest craft for example  would allow the baby spiders inside to have their front legs which they’ve been shown before to basically use as arms into tiny Webber arms in order to give them a much greater dexterity and grasping ability

 

11 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Actually I found out there was a bit more than that relating her with witches, her name willow is connected with witchcraft magic, she also has a Bernie that’s also inspired by haunted dolls that harm or protect certain people, and she has fire magic but that pyrokinesis based off something else that Bernie is also based off of.

still has horns which could relate her with goats.

yeah but it has the plant which made him and he also grew up there with those plants and creatures from hamlet.

I guess the name lend Creedence to it, Haunted doll seems more like a ghost thing then a witch thing, she didn’t have Pyro kinesis until the skill tree enter other fire related abilities before the skill tree are probably magic based on the fact that she has fire magic now But precatory, they could easily be explained away (I don’t feel like listening out or each of the abilities could’ve been explained away by now but if you wanna know, just ask)

Yeah, but merm guards’ horns crack, and their skin turns pale like Wurt so she isn’t anymore goat related then any other merm guard

 

But that could been any plant that grew around the crystal and I’ll have to find the thread where all the evidence is laid out despite his limited language skills suggest he has the maturity of an adult, in certain quotes show, he has more understanding of the moon then his limited language skills would you lead you to believe which makes me think he possibly had a life pre-falling from the moon

[Creatingabe1125]

22 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said:

We have enough evidence for the ability but not what the first instance which if you think about it how they canonically first unlock each of the skills doesn’t matter as far as we can tell besides the skills You have to do certain in game stuff to unlock, and even then we don’t know that canonical intimate details

 

23 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said:

I’m at disagree. We don’t have much to work with. I’m just saying that for something small with how much digging I’ve been doing it should be enough.

Could you explain to me how that one thing is enough for a skill and why it should be even if you use examples to explain but I kind of need an explanation as I don’t see how  one thing in the very past is enough to warrant a skill.

29 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said:

never mind you were closer I checked again, but just to make sure did you lean the whole time that unnatural energy was on the screen , just when it affecting the spider, or Webber (I got 16 seconds when I checked again)

I counted myself without a timer but I’d say it’s close enough.

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

Wealthy could take a piece of himself like a Like something easy enough to heal back up from it already being infused with unnatural energy using the itsy bitsy nest craft for example  would allow the baby spiders inside to have their front legs which they’ve been shown before to basically use as arms into tiny Webber arms in order to give them a much greater dexterity and grasping ability

So it would affect baby spiders to grab things?

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

I guess the name lend Creedence to it, Haunted doll seems more like a ghost thing then a witch thing, she didn’t have Pyro kinesis until the skill tree enter other fire related abilities before the skill tree are probably magic based on the fact that she has fire magic now But precatory, they could easily be explained away (I don’t feel like listening out or each of the abilities could’ve been explained away by now but if you wanna know, just ask)

Okay.

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

Yeah, but merm guards’ horns crack, and their skin turns pale like Wurt so she isn’t anymore goat related then any other merm guard

 

But that could been any plant that grew around the crystal and I’ll have to find the thread where all the evidence is laid out despite his limited language skills suggest he has the maturity of an adult, in certain quotes show, he has more understanding of the moon then his limited language skills would you lead you to believe which makes me think he possibly had a life pre-falling from the moon

These were just meant to be examples as how I saw it but I don’t want to focus on this as we’re taking about Webber and not Wurt or Wormwood. Though maybe the crystal has knowledge about the moon within though that crystal must have at least some magic that makes it somewhat sentient.

[Dr.Webber]

17 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Could you explain to me how that one thing is enough for a skill and why it should be even if you use examples to explain but I kind of need an explanation as I don’t see how  one thing in the very past is enough to warrant a skill.

Without the energy they wouldn’t have fused thus it’s an intentional part of How Webber came to be and having it just be a one off thing seems like a waste of potential. It’s part of him now and personally I would like to see the  lingering effects of that event

 

17 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

So it would affect baby spiders to grab things?

19 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

Ya

 

17 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Though maybe the crystal has knowledge about the moon within though that crystal must have at least some magic that makes it somewhat sentient.

Probably

 

17 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Okay

Is that OK as in OK tell me or just OK

[Creatingabe1125]

29 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said:

Without the energy they wouldn’t have fused thus it’s an intentional part of How Webber came to be and having it just be a one off thing seems like a waste of potential. It’s part of him now and personally I would like to see the  lingering effects of that event

I don’t think it’s important to Webber anymore as otherwise it would have probably been brought up again. Also I’m not going to agree that the energy is in him still as it looks more like it left him rather than go in him and also that sounds more like theory rather than a fact in the lore.

34 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said:

Is that OK as in OK tell me or just OK

Just okay

34 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said:

Ya

Grab what though?

[Dr.Webber]

4 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

I don’t think it’s important to Webber anymore as otherwise it would have probably been brought up again. Also I’m not going to agree that the energy is in him still as it looks more like it left him rather than go in him and also that sounds more like theory rather than a fact in the lore.

Like I said this sort of stuff is only brought up in rework animatics and skill trees…this would be the time to bring it up 

the last frame the energy was on screen it was going inward 

4 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Grab what though?

On to mobs they distract 

and materials to to help craft the carecrafts 

[Creatingabe1125]

48 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said:

Like I said this sort of stuff is only brought up in rework animatics and skill trees…this would be the time to bring it up 

the last frame the energy was on screen it was going inward 

Could you give examples of which characters have stuff from only the rework animatics added to the skill tree? And still don’t see why too bring it back when it seems to not be important to Webber or his lore rn.

It looks more like it dissipated rather than go in him.

1 hour ago, Dr.Webber said:

On to mobs they distract 

and materials to to help craft the carecrafts

Would grabbing them be like they stay longer on it?

why specific to just the care craft materials? And would this be like the carrat for wormwood or the wobot family?

[Dr.Webber]

4 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Could you give examples of which characters have stuff from only the rework animatics added to the skill tree?

Wigfrid has the shield from her animatic

there are also a few left have reference to it, To something that happened in the animatic aren’t really the thing that happened the animatic

also not many characters have been given up so that’s why it’s pretty sparse

4 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

And still don’t see why too bring it back when it seems to not be important to Webber or his lore rn.

 Because it’s a wasted opportunity if they don’t do something with the energy that fuse into them to make them one especially since that event introduced a natural energy and the thing we got since related to it it’s a version of it deluded by lunar energy

 

4 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

It looks more like it dissipated rather than go in him.

Yeah, like overall, I could see why you think that but trust me I’m so passionate about this. I analyzed it frame by frame dissipated inwards which makes it absorbing

 

4 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

Would grabbing them be like they stay longer on it?

why specific to just the care craft materials? And would this be like the carrat for wormwood or the wobot family?

If they couldn’t grab on, they’d probably just slip off unless they’re using their teeth 

no quick grab back to make get because Weber would be doing the guiding and like the most of the work, but they’re basically doing arts and crafts in and there to help them out with it. That’s why none of the carecrafts den decorating set in their crafts but I’ll have decorations on them

[Creatingabe1125]

12 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

Wigfrid has the shield from her animatic

there are also a few left have reference to it, To something that happened in the animatic aren’t really the thing that happened the animatic

also not many characters have been given up so that’s why it’s pretty sparse

She’s a Valkyrie and they have shields.

12 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

Yeah, like overall, I could see why you think that but trust me I’m so passionate about this. I analyzed it frame by frame dissipated inwards which makes it absorbing

I don’t see it going in him directly, it seems like it was going around him and the energy at the last few moments was breaking apart and then dissipated which some of it may have been going to where he is by coincidence.

12 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

Because it’s a wasted opportunity if they don’t do something with the energy that fuse into them to make them one especially since that event introduced a natural energy and the thing we got since related to it it’s a version of it deluded by lunar energy

I can’t really disagree with it being an opportunity mostly cause idk how to, but I’m not going to agree that its a wasted opportunity as that probably wasn’t the way they intended Webber to go through.

12 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

If they couldn’t grab on, they’d probably just slip off unless they’re using their teeth 

no quick grab back to make get because Weber would be doing the guiding and like the most of the work, but they’re basically doing arts and crafts in and there to help them out with it. That’s why none of the carecrafts den decorating set in their crafts but I’ll have decorations on them

So what would it change about the grabbing mobs part.

The only part I understood enough is that the baby spiders help Webber with the care crafts by bringing him resources.

Edited November 14, 2024 by Creatingabe1125

[Dr.Webber]

1 hour ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

She’s a Valkyrie and they have shields.

It’s the specific shield tho

and he’s sort of a one of a kind thing that statement could work the for what he is and being infused with unnatural energy 

1 hour ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

I don’t see it going in him directly, it seems like it was going around him and the energy at the last few moments was breaking apart and then dissipated which some of it may have been going to where he is by coincidence.

If you don’t believe me you watch it frame also even if that was true I don’t that that isn’t excess unnatural energy stabilizing and there’s probably more already within him infused through out the whole body 

 

2 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

but I’m not going to agree that its a wasted opportunity as that probably wasn’t the way they intended Webber to go through.

You literally just described what would cause it to be a wasted opportunity 

they introduced a new energy and wouldn’t be doing anything with it except a  diluted version That is completely unrelated to the character. The initial energy was introduced by

2 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

o what would it change about the grabbing mobs part.

Nothing The energy was part of the plan for most of the time the plan has been in existence

2 hours ago, Creatingabe1125 said:

The only part I understood enough is that the baby spiders help Webber with the care crafts by bringing him resources.

No thats not what they do at all, they help build the carecraft from within the itsy-bitsy nest