Would this be a somewhat-simple and guaranteed way to domesticate an Ornery beefalo every time?

[DarXide]

tldr; If the per-day-average number of hits you give/receive riding your beefalo are over 51, will you get the ornery beefalo tendency?

Math:

1) A day is 8 minutes = 480 seconds. Assume you spend every second riding everyday of the domestication process. Realistically this could never happen but it's a generous estimate. For every second you ride a beefalo you get +0.000416 to the rider tendency (source: wiki). That's 0.000416x480 = 0.2 points a day

2) Every second your beefalo is over 50% hunger (150+ hunger points), it gets +0.000416 added (same as rider) to its pudgy tendency. Let's assume you never feed your beefalo 150 hunger in one sitting. A diet that's mostly lightbulbs would accomplish this, and never two steamed twigs at once. Suppose you did go over for a while. We can assume the seconds you weren't riding were about the same as the error of overfeeding it. So roughly, you rack up a total of 0.2 points a day for both rider and pudgy combined. Conservative estimate

3) Every time your beefalo gets hit, or you hit a mob, you get +0.004 to the ornery tendency. In order to lock-in a tendency, DST says you need to have one tendency's points greater than the other two combined. This means you need more than 0.2 points a day. That comes out to 0.2 / 0.004 = 50 hits

Does means if you count an average of 51 hits per day over the course of your taming process, you would certainly get the ornery tendency? Theoretical estimation this, in practice you could get a safer estimate and do 60 hits per day. But my question is would this work? Or is there a console command or mod to test this? I installed the "Show me" mod but it doesnt show the tendency stat

[goatt]

you are correct.

[Shosuko]

Ornery is like, the easiest tendency to get tho

[DarXide]

19 minutes ago, Shosuko said:

Ornery is like, the easiest tendency to get tho

I had no idea. I'm super new to taming beef so I remember players saying ornery was hard. Which is the hardest tendency? I got rider on my first time. And I assume pudgy should be easy/simple too.

[Shosuko]

24 minutes ago, DarXide said:

I had no idea. I'm super new to taming beef so I remember players saying ornery was hard. Which is the hardest tendency? I got rider on my first time. And I assume pudgy should be easy/simple too.

Unless you do something to extend the time it takes to domesticate your beef (striking it to get +6 days timer) there is a maximum amount of time you can spend riding your beef, or keeping its hunger above the 50% threshold.  These are naturally time gated.  Attacking or being attacked, well I guess theoretically there is a limit but you can spend almost all day getting stung by a few bees, and there is no shortage of excuse to farm spiders, hounds, kill pigs etc early game.  Its very easy to rack up a LOT of ornery domestication points even without realizing it, crowding out the other tendencies.  So raising anything *not* ornery requires you don't use the beef for fighting much.

I wouldn't say any are "hard," but it is more restrictive b/c time spent off of it to fight means feeding it more and risking it shaking its saddle.  The "hardest" is probably default because you have to balance the 3.  If you don't do some of all three tendencies the threshold for it to be default is pretty thin and might take some work to get right.

[Well-met]

use the new punching bags

or if you're oldschool, carry a bunch of lureplants and keep replanting them

[Captain_Rage]

4 hours ago, DarXide said:

I had no idea. I'm super new to taming beef so I remember players saying ornery was hard.

A huge number of players are extremely bad at this game. No need to listen to them. To get an ornery beefalo you can pick cacti*, fight spiders and bees* or carry around a Lure Plant. Having a 1-3 Lure Plants in your inventory makes dishing out damage on demand very trivial. Good luck taming your beefalo!

*) Taking damage also gives tendency points towards ornery.

[Baark0]

4 hours ago, Shosuko said:

Ornery is like, the easiest tendency to get tho

Idk pretty sure rider can be acquired by doing legitimately nothing but sitting afk on your beefalo and remounting it whenever it bucks you.

As for ornery beefalo I basically just ride them all the time, and clear out spider dens/bees since they do minimal damage and have very little health. Just be sure to wear a football helmet at all times, as getting bucked mid fight is quite common, and can often lead to grievous wounds or straight up death

[Cheggf]

4 hours ago, DarXide said:

I had no idea. I'm super new to taming beef so I remember players saying ornery was hard

Just use the beefalo for combat and cactus picking, and if it's almost done domesticating and doesn't have a grumpy face start focusing hardcore on fighting. Or just smack a lureplant.

4 hours ago, DarXide said:

Which is the hardest tendency?

Pudgy, huge resource sink. Ornery & Rider can easily be obtained for essentially free by simply fighting with the beefalo or riding the beefalo. Pudgy requires you to feed him approximately 1.2 billion cubic tons of food per nanosecond (I did the math).

[Tranoze]

8 minutes ago, Baark0 said:

Idk pretty sure rider can be acquired by doing legitimately nothing but sitting afk on your beefalo and remounting

You can turn any type of beefalo into ornery at the last day, but you cant do the opposite. It took half day (400 secs) to turn a 0 ornery point to 50% ornery point if you keep attack 2.5 times each sec. Even less if you poke killer bee hive with bunch of blue cap to heal beef back.

Especially in spring where you cant ride untamed beef into any danger, it better to just leave beef near salt lick and feed him steamed twigs, which wont give any rider points.
If you ask why people tame beef in spring, the reason is we join other pp server to play and cant decide when the season is right there.

[LanOrhan]

2 hours ago, Well-met said:

use the new punching bags

or if you're oldschool, carry a bunch of lureplants and keep replanting them

Does that really work?

[Tranoze]

18 minutes ago, LanOrhan said:

Does that really work?

yes.

[n11360]

ok you all seem to do the std taming stuff, maybe ill give you an advanced example ...i tamed 5 beefallo at once multiple times now, wilson and wicker working best for this bc you need a lot of twigs for this, you can make all 5 whatever you want them to be and you could even do more then 5.

Here is how:

Get 5 beefs(bells) into one spot(base/outpost) and i recommence groomingstations so they not all buzzing around all the time.

Drop the beefbell of the corresponding beef at their grooming stations and make a saltlick what covers all the beefs (saltlick is 1 pitchforktile larger radius then flingo so this one is easy.

Then you make 3 pots to cook steamed twigs and the setup is done.

Now the interesting bit, for the tendency domestication you just need to rider or fight about a day and it will have a tendency locked in after locking in tendency you can take the saddle off the beef and go to the next one.

After this you just need to feed those beefs 3 meals a day (i start mornings and then go by 1/3 of the clock) if you late dont worrie the saltlick will catch it the important thing is that you have at least 1/3 of the clock between meals so it dont aqire any fatty points.

now its just feeding and brushing (if brush availible) if you feed responsible it wont get faty points and it cant get any other points too since you tame without a saddle you cant ride it and since its on a station in base it wont fight either, so your tendency is final .

You can pause this process for a couple of days at any time since you got a saltlick, also other ppl can takeover for a couple of days in your place.

And for those who like the rider aproach (only feed lightbulbs be in cave every 3 days gathering new bulbs and ride all the time), well you have to work hard to override all that riding points either way fight all the time or gather healings and facetank killerbees for a while ..

 

In the end its preference ofc wich way one choose to tame beef but ill say a word about the 2 methods riding alltime vs. keep hunger >0 all time.

 

If you choose the riding way the drawback is obvious you HAVE TO be on your beef ALL the time, everytime you off beef you will lose points not just stop but strait out lose except if you feed him hunger gaining stuff asap and then you only have a few seconds if it wasnt steam twigs.So its advised to have some steamed twig on you anyways even if you roll with lightbulbs just for offbeef missions like chop wood pick stones etc.The upside ofc is that you get to ride your beef

For the feeding approach the drawback would be that you have to feed beefs every 1/3 of the clock for 20 days (default) what makes you kinda stationary, the upside would be that you have basicly no time to spend on beef and can play otherwise normaly doing all things and you even allowed slacking throu saltlick what will extend the time you need to tame thou.

 

For efficiency comperasent ....a beef what is starving will lose obidience at twice the rate as one who is not and that would be 50% nonstarving, so you will need to feed your beef 10 things a day if you riding approach it(more if you want ornery), so this better be bulbs and not twig or else you add 2 twigs and you have 3 steamed twigs.

 

My personal Recommendation is to pick the riding way if you want "beef gameplay" in wich case the char should be something synergysing like max with duelists for example.

If you dont wanna be beefplaying all the time and just want a fast car at the end of the process, well then i can only recommence trying the feeding approach, woodie would come to mind for example on this one cause this pick of char would be boarderline useless to make if you plan on riding all the time, woodie who cant transform (off the beef) and cant use lucy (off the beef) that would be idk ...bad choice XD

 

Hope i could help/inspire a bit here, if so thank klei for slacking... their servers are not updated to the new version jet so im bored  

Have a nice day and gl with your tendencys even thou luck got nothing to do with it   

[n.apollyon]

Foolproof method of getting/switching* to an Ornery tendency: (should have at least 40% domestication already so you don't get bucked off in the process)

1. Go to blue mushroom biome in caves, the one next to the lunar grotto. Pick or dig mushrooms.
2. Attack the tentapillar on a beefalo to summon the baby tentacles. 2 or 3 hits on the pillar will summon enough baby tentacles. Don't overwhelm the beef.
3. Tank the hits on the beef, each hit only does like 5 dmg and the beefalo has 1000 health. Be aware that your sanity will be tanking too since each tentacle has its own aura and a lot of them will be spawning on a small area.
4. Count 10s OR when the character comments on the beefalo's health(meaning its below 200). Move away then feed blue mushrooms to restore health, each heals the beef for 80 health.
5. Doing this 3 or 4 times is enough hits to guarantee the Ornery tendency. Take note that you will be insane after each session so mind the nightmares, they might kill the beef if you fight on it while its health is low.

*I switched to an ornery while having a rider beef at around 90% domestication cause a friend tamed a rider and they wanted ornery. I only use the beef for transportation cause I play wanda so it wasn't getting any ornery points outside the tentacle session.

[lenship2]

my way of getting ornery involves literally just going to the bee queen biome and committing killer bee genocide, the game does everything else from there

[Parusoid]

On 6/16/2023 at 12:50 AM, DarXide said:

 

during the domestication process beefalo will change its face to reflect what tendency currently it has most points in
this can give you valuable clues to whether or not you're going the right path
 

[goatt]

On 6/16/2023 at 3:30 AM, n11360 said:

Here is how:

This is also how I tame my beefalo nowadays. This way gives a lot more freedom, surprisingly.