[Game Update] - 553504

[0Navis0]

22 hours ago, V2C said:

• Changed Brightshade Shovel to Brightshade Shoevel (combination shovel/hoe tool).

If I liked the idea to combine the brighshade hammer and pickaxe into one tool, I'm not sure about shovel and hoe. I think it would be better to keep them separated. Also it would be great if the brightshade hoe could dig farm holes by 3x3. Also the brightshade axe and pitchfork are still missing.

Edited April 19, 2023 by Hypsellis

[Loganblahtimes2]

Keeping this brief but I could provide more detail.

I've been watching Beard 777's videos for coverage of this update and I have to say he is right about these things sorely needing a buff. Killing the Celestial Champion is a long and hard task to do, and killing the CC only to summon rifts that are punishing and not really rewarding as of now isn't very worth it.

As of now, I will not ever be switching from night armor wanda/increased durability log suit (modded) any other character, as other armors in the game are either not easy enough to obtain on mass or provide good enough benefits. The damage that brightshade armor blocks is decent, sure, but not worth the time it takes to get to it. The brightshade sword is also very very useless. That damage bonus from the armor is also barely noticeable.

I'm not asking for a lot here Klei. Don't be afraid to push your boundaries here. This is postgame, players should be able to get gear that makes them feel powerful. Here's my simple suggestion: Just make planar damage flat armor-piercing. Make the brightshade sword's damage ignore all armor that isn't 100% absorption, such as the Fuelweaver's nighthand shield. I'm tired of playing the waiting game with cave spiders.

I haven't really looked into the armor enough to make a solid opinion, but give the tools some efficiency buffs too.

Overall, the sword needs the most tweaking.

[IAmAFurrz]

20 hours ago, GodIess said:

I got a great idea to improve the shovel. Add 1 slot, and when we make a hole, the seed will be planted automatically (like the Wormwood does, but only on the beds). This will significantly speed up the planting of vegetables. And for the shovel, you can make the excavated object automatically collect in that slot (trees, saplings, etc.), but you can't put those objects in that slot (seed only).

Edit: I've posted the code below to add to the game quickly

bro really said 'aight imma do it myself'. love the idea tho, great implimentation of the vine!

15 hours ago, BB Marioni said:

3 seems too OP, beats the purpose of managing resources

by the time you defeat CC, i dont think managing a n y t h i n g should be a problem

12 hours ago, GodIess said:

As said before, if it doesn't make sense then what's the point of placing it, if you really need the decor then just use c_spawn("") or install the mod. For most people, the ability to transfer these resources makes no sense

because we want to plant stuff for aesthetics, how many times must that be repeated. post CC is the time to mega base ffs, they're not saying that they need it, they're saying they WANT it, and they don't want to CHEAT for aesthetics

[Creatorofswamps]

40 minutes ago, Loganblahtimes2 said:

Keeping this brief but I could provide more detail.

I've been watching Beard 777's videos for coverage of this update and I have to say he is right about these things sorely needing a buff. Killing the Celestial Champion is a long and hard task to do, and killing the CC only to summon rifts that are punishing and not really rewarding as of now isn't very worth it.

As of now, I will not ever be switching from night armor wanda/increased durability log suit (modded) any other character, as other armors in the game are either not easy enough to obtain on mass or provide good enough benefits. The damage that brightshade armor blocks is decent, sure, but not worth the time it takes to get to it. The brightshade sword is also very very useless. That damage bonus from the armor is also barely noticeable.

I'm not asking for a lot here Klei. Don't be afraid to push your boundaries here. This is postgame, players should be able to get gear that makes them feel powerful. Here's my simple suggestion: Just make planar damage flat armor-piercing. Make the brightshade sword's damage ignore all armor that isn't 100% absorption, such as the Fuelweaver's nighthand shield. I'm tired of playing the waiting game with cave spiders.

I haven't really looked into the armor enough to make a solid opinion, but give the tools some efficiency buffs too.

Overall, the sword needs the most tweaking

In fact, it's just more fun than you think, just kill a couple of plants yourself. As soon as you get a sword or a staff. The Usvas will have no problem destroying them. Fighting with them is much more interesting than with ordinary mobs

30 minutes ago, IAmAFurrz said:

because we want to plant stuff for aesthetics, how many times must that be repeated. post CC is the time to mega base ffs, they're not saying that they need it, they're saying they WANT it, and they don't want to CHEAT for aesthetics

we don't want to upset the balance just for the sake of "aesthetics".

 

There are 2 chairs. The chair of megabasists and the chair of ordinary players . Both chairs are comfortable and comfortable. But each of them considers his own chair more comfortable than the other. And the eternal dispute begins, whose chair is more comfortable

As they say in our homeland, "if you criticize, then offer a solution." If people need decarotic bulbs of plants on bases, then you can make it so that when you smear Bulbous Lightbug with Tree Jam, it mutates back into a bulb plant due to an overabundance of fertilizer

Edited April 20, 2023 by Creatorofswamps

[Gashzer]

Give console players the ability to access console commands or release a creative mode to allow megabasers to place down any world entity.

Ive played on a klei official survival server (catcoon one) that has reached 5000+ days. And the server had a pretty base but the rest of the world was a wasteland... all reeds, cactus plants, turf all destroyed/burnt, no natural resources left.

No joke, it was exactly like shrek 6, the megabaser group base was like Rumpelstiltskin's palace and the rest of the world was like Shreks abandoned wasteland swamp. Was very sad to see the beautiful world of DST destroyed.

The megabaser group that used dirty afk scripts and autokick mods to keep the server going had the cheek to post the megabase on the forums and everyone praised it but the cold dark reality is they took over that server and kept it by force. The spawn portal was covered in skeletons cause they made a maze to trap and kill new spawns.

Please Klei dont give the new shovel the ability to uproot fixed plants like reeds, cactus and lightbulbs. Find another way via server creation or admin server commands. Lets preserve our klei official servers and prevent them becoming wastelands!

Edited April 20, 2023 by Gashzer

[Creatorofswamps]

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

No joke, it was exactly like shrek 6, the megabaser group base was like Rumpelstiltskin's palace and the rest of the world was like Shreks abandoned wasteland swamp. Was very sad to see the beautiful world of DST destroyed.

This is the perfect comparison 

[Ryusuta]

On 4/18/2023 at 5:30 PM, V2C said:

Changed Brightshade Shovel to Brightshade Shoevel (combination shovel/hoe tool).

Thank goodness. When I was thinking about the endgame, the first thing that came to mind was "Damn it, hoes and shovels are too hard to make. If only we could combine the two..."

Edited April 20, 2023 by Ryusuta
Changed tone a bit.

[Gashzer]

17 minutes ago, Ryusuta said:

Thank goodness. When I was thinking about the endgame, the first thing that came to mind was "Damn it, hoes and shovels are too hard to make. If only we could combine the two..."

Tbh the brightshade shovel in general was not needed... but atleast it has 2 functions now... Godless' idea is probably the best suggestion so far!

[Maxil20]

4 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Give console players the ability to access console commands or release a creative mode to allow megabasers to place down any world entity.

Ive played on a klei official survival server (catcoon one) that has reached 5000+ days. And the server had a pretty base but the rest of the world was a wasteland... all reeds, cactus plants, turf all destroyed/burnt, no natural resources left.

No joke, it was exactly like shrek 6, the megabaser group base was like Rumpelstiltskin's palace and the rest of the world was like Shreks abandoned wasteland swamp. Was very sad to see the beautiful world of DST destroyed.

The megabaser group that used dirty afk scripts and autokick mods to keep the server going had the cheek to post the megabase on the forums and everyone praised it but the cold dark reality is they took over that server and kept it by force. The spawn portal was covered in skeletons cause they made a maze to trap and kill new spawns.

Please Klei dont give the new shovel the ability to uproot fixed plants like reeds, cactus and lightbulbs. Find another way via server creation or admin server commands. Lets preserve our klei official servers and prevent them becoming wastelands!

I feel like this is a bit of a bad example. I (and most other megabasers in general) don’t condone trapping an official server just to build a base. Most of the time it’s usually on private/dedicated servers, usually with password protection so griefers and the like are nonexistent.

I know that server incident was from a few years ago. Since the incident, klei has added the ability for cactus/reeds to be from regrowth (light bulbs, for comparison, have had this since the start of DST), nerfed turf fuel values (so people are less inclined to burn it), offered spawn protection so incidents like the spawn trap portal are far less likely to occur, and made it so their servers reset every time a game update occurs. The only thing that can’t really regrow are “key” resources, such as grass/twigs/berries, which can via a world setting to enable key resources (which is automatically enabled on an endless scenario).

Also, DST itself really isn’t inclined to keep its world “pretty”. The most obvious example to me are petrified forests. They are ugly, hit both “natural” and “planted” saplings, and occur everywhere. You can go and clear out the forests every year, but it doesn’t really stop the issue that if you just ignore them almost all of the forests in the world will become filled with rock trees that just don’t look nice. It’s one of the few world settings I had to disable on my world because I couldn’t stand having the forests constantly petrify and having to clear them out to maintain the appearance, especially since lumpy evergreens are not excluded for some reason. 
 

Overall, I can understand your concern for the shovel, but I don’t really see how it would negatively impact things. Worst case, the resources that were “stolen” will regrow progressively over the next year(s). Being post champ means very few public servers, especially official ones, will get it unless said people are taking over the server, which I feel if occurring has many more issues that stem from that then just a shovel that moves key resources.

[GodIess]

I didn't manage to make it the way I originally planned, but I think the developers have more skills than I do. The point is to automatically collect the loot that falls during digging. But ignore what lies around

Spoiler

I finish! Now it looks exactly like I wanted. Also, I think it would be a great idea to add such a mechanic for the pickaxe and hammer, which will collect the received resources at the end of the action

 

Edited April 29, 2023 by GodIess

[Pticman]

40 minutes ago, GodIess said:

I didn't manage to make it the way I originally planned, but I think the developers have more skills than I do. The point is to automatically collect the loot that falls during digging. But ignore what lies around

Very nice! I like it ❤️

[Spino43]

I am not sure why Klei thinks the Shoevel is a good upgrade.

It only takes a few second to craft a new shovel/hoe, and gold is like one of the easiest items to amass in this game.

It really needs an unique perk that helps farming faster, not just giving it more durability and call it a day.

[SomebodyRandom]

10 hours ago, Creatorofswamps said:

then you can make it so that when you smear Bulbous Lightbug with Tree Jam, it mutates back into a bulb plant due to an overabundance of fertilizer

Okay then so instead of leaving it to a shovel that requires killing Celestial Champion to acquire, you make it so you can do it as soon as you find a Waterlogged and a Lunar Grotto. This will totally fix the "imbalance".

[Creatorofswamps]

1 hour ago, SomebodyRandom said:

Okay then so instead of leaving it to a shovel that requires killing Celestial Champion to acquire, you make it so you can do it as soon as you find a Waterlogged and a Lunar Grotto. This will totally fix the "imbalance".

It's just a random idea of an alternative. You can get a shovel for 10 days. But for example, on the 30th day you will not be able to find figs or a pirate captain.

[maxwell_winters]

I'm on board with 3*3 tiller or automatic planter suggestions. Late game automation is a huge gap that needs to be filled. It is now locked into Maxwell or some extremely obtuse methods like Lureplant farms.

Edited April 20, 2023 by maxwell_winters