loopuleasa Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Not all craftables are created equal, as some can burn for more than the sum of their parts. I wish to have some burnables around my campfires that are good value. Especially now that max campfires yield an extra charcoal. Anyone ran the numbers? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losparkeros Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Straw roll was advantageous compared to ingredients (360s in fire pit 270s in ingredients). Also spoiled pretty parasols and low percentage log/grass armors are good choice for fuel. Honestly though, I would treat charcoal from fire pit as bonus and not as way to get it en masse. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1602992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Losparkeros said: Honestly though, I would treat charcoal from fire pit as bonus and not as way to get it en masse. Ofc not, the extra charcoal is just another bonus to the equation Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhh2 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Charcoal factory idea 1. Get lightbulbs 2. Make wearpig and turn lightbulbs into poop 3. turn poop into charcoal with a ton of firepits 4. profit Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Giggio Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 What about palm scales? that thing farm tons of it everytime I decide to gather logs, its insane for a solo run the amount of it. I do abuse straw rolls after gecko farm as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EighteenXVIII Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I don't think maxing out fire pits is ever a good value. Their main task is cooking meat/cactus/crops before you get a scaled furnace. Light is handled by the lantern and the torch + thermal stone combo takes care of heat as long as there is stuff to burn. If you want charcoal then it's very easy to turn pinecones into charcoal, or you just burn down a forest. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 hours ago, MrSoratori said: What about palm scales? I never tested palm scales, do they burn for a log value? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 hours ago, loopuleasa said: I never tested palm scales, do they burn for a log value? Yes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DajeKotlyar Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/15/2022 at 5:44 PM, hhh2 said: Charcoal factory idea 1. Get lightbulbs 2. Make wearpig and turn lightbulbs into poop 3. turn poop into charcoal with a ton of firepits 4. profit Add ice flingo or a balloons with water and you can do it faster and with only one firepit Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rage Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Turfs have great fuel value and can be crafted by various ingredients that are readily available, at a low cost on top of that. Even a rock and a piece of flint or a pine cone will give you a small stack of turf that you can burn. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell_winters Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Captain_Rage said: Turfs have great fuel value and can be crafted by various ingredients that are readily available Their fuel values were significantly nerfed in March QoL Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Still probably something to be noted of. 3 turfs equal 1 log, and iirc the cheapest recipe is 1 flint+1 rock for 4 turfs. So theoratically 3 flints+ 3 rocks allow you to max out firepit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Giggio Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 16 hours ago, loopuleasa said: I never tested palm scales, do they burn for a log value? Yup Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 17 hours ago, Spino43 said: 3 flints+ 3 rocks allow you to max out firepit. don't you dare touch my precious lategame flints and rocks they are more valuable than gold to me Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helord Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Flint I can see if you don't want to hunt down a petrified forest. But we've got three chests full of nothing but stonefruit. Break some stonefruit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GelatinousCube Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/17/2022 at 12:55 PM, EighteenXVIII said: I don't think maxing out fire pits is ever a good value. Their main task is cooking meat/cactus/crops before you get a scaled furnace. Light is handled by the lantern and the torch + thermal stone combo takes care of heat as long as there is stuff to burn. If you want charcoal then it's very easy to turn pinecones into charcoal, or you just burn down a forest. Wait, I thought burning stuff like logs, pinecones etc just gave you ash? Do pinecones give charcoal?? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 They don't, which doesn't really make sense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 hours ago, GelatinousCube said: Do pinecones give charcoal?? Not directly, but I think they meant to plant a stack or two of pinecones anywhere, wait a minute until they become stage 1 tree, and burn them. Pinecones quickly become a trash item after a couple of log gathering sessions, and pile up in chests otherwise. Back to the main topic: I’d go with whatever high level fuel is easier to mass gather or have a surplus of, even if it is not refined. As it was said above, in terms of a refined item I’d probably favor grass for straw rolls (max fire with only 9 grass) and can be gathered constantly and with very low effort in a small pen at camp. Or poop from werepigs which can be made with edibles from caves in less than a day’s work , although now that the lazy forager is refuelable, it’s debatable if doing workarounds is worth it, if you can just walk your pigs/merms/bearger through a forest wearing a forager and just use the collected unrefined logs for fuel. A fire-less Krampus farm of your choice also creates more charcoal than you can ever use. The free charcoal obtained can be used for very high grade and cheap fuel, also saving you from refining anything. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143828-any-guide-out-there-for-fuel-burn-efficiency-versus-crafting-ingredients/#findComment-1603757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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