ApoIIo Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I feel like what made the teensy little DS caves so much more charming than the vast emptiness of DST caves is the seeming lack of miner's camp-adjacent setpieces, which really give a "people were here before us" kind of feeling. Sure, you can get the genuine kind of that feeling from abandoned bases in multiplayer, but chancing across a pre-generated cave minibase with only mundane things to loot and *maybe* a prestihatitator feels really good with friends... That is, when they actually spawn through the 0.000000000001 chances. New biomes and such help, but small touches of liveliness here and there really help, y'know? What's the harm in a neat lil' camp with an inactive bee box, tent and shadow manipulator spawning in an utterly inconvinient location like the edge of the wilds/ruins? If it spawns somewhere good, call that your nameday gift because it's a little progress boost! Variables like that make sandbox games fun. Also really missing the vast ruins, because in my experiences, the ruins take up such a tiny part of the cave shard in every dst world I can remember. The ruins are oftentimes bigger than DS caves in singleplayer, so what's the harm in sizing them up a little? They're just emptied way too fast to enjoy in multiplayer, scraped clean before you know it. Not to mention almost every threat spawns in predictable mini-setpieces so once you know the layout of the place it takes half the fun away. Missing the inevitable surprise element of the randomness of DS ruins! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 i mean i dont see why not? i mean tehre are allready base set pices on the overworld so why cant there be base set pices in the caves? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1599996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille6785 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 base(d) post Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 i wish the next qol adds set piece related stuff Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlogy Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Quite frankly, seeing more set pieces just period would be a welcome addition to me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DajeKotlyar Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Where's base where's base where's base Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Probably one of the saddest changes from ds to dst, set pieces seemed to be a very cool part of ds and them being basically nonexistent in dst for some reason was just sad. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I'm dying for more setpieces in general. So many were lost from DS to DST. I'd kill for more to spice up world variety, even some for the ocean would be really nice... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dois raios Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 yeah, more set pieces/failed survivors is what is missing in caves and ocean content, however it is such a pleasure to find this rare set pieces in my worlds, i dont mind then becoming more viable, i am almost sure that i havent seen all the set pieces/failed survivors in caves, but the 2 that i specifically remember was 2 lanterns around a plantation of light bulbs (3 or 4 light bulbs perfect aligned, i am not sure bc i couldnt find the screenshot) and a life giving amulet around gems and gold, i felt rewarded for playing for so long and witness these rare set pieces, so to be clear, I DO think that new set pieces or new failed survivors could came into DST, but i also think that some set pieces/failed survivors should be rarer, like 0,001% or even less, idk if everyone feels the same, but this is my idea. also, give ocean content some set pieces/failed survivors, it would be very cool!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fornax Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I would like the sacred biome to look like this: and not like this: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Frankly I don't even understand why Set-pieces have such low spawning rates to begin with. They're fun, useful occurrences, and haven't seen ever someone complaining about their existence to warrant present situation. Indeed KLei should reconsider Set-piece prevalence and even make new ones - as OP stated, they bring forth a certain liveliness to maps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
planetearth Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I want more set pieces- including ones that bring/ have the potential to bring negative consequences. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhhddh Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Set pieces are surprise to me even though they usually not every helpful in DS. DST only reserves a little set pieces really make me sad. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiliano Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 1:12 PM, Fomalhaut said: I would like the sacred biome to look like this: and not like this: omg WHY? The first one from DS solo is just a mess, the second one is beautiful Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fornax Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 As @Mr.Oshiro mentioned here, this looks like a bug in the worldgen:  Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flarezen Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Castiliano said: omg WHY? The first one from DS solo is just a mess, the second one is beautiful The ds one was a military biome. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApoIIo Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Castiliano said: omg WHY? The first one from DS solo is just a mess, the second one is beautiful the ds one wasn't cramped and entirely predictable, and clearable with a blindfold because there's no variability once you recognize the setpieces Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 the ds caves felt a lot better than the dst caves and cave in general needs a bunch more setpieces or biome or anything world gen related really Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143459-bring-back-minersother-camp-setpiecesincrease-their-rate-from-extremely-low-dst-ruins-thoughts/#findComment-1600857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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