Tranoze Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 If you want more context, here is how to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWorldDan Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 The biggest downside to the shinebug reactor is the effect it has on your frame rate. Even though all the bugs are confined to 1 tile, it's still slows things down a lot. Compressed nuclear waste is still the most effective rad bolt generator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, NewWorldDan said: Compressed nuclear waste is still the most effective rad bolt generator. Are you sure? as you need 50~90 tons nuclear waste per tile to reach the same amount of rad/cycle as 31 pips rad generator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWorldDan Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Tranoze said: Are you sure? as you need 50~90 tons nuclear waste per tile to reach the same amount of rad/cycle as 31 pips rad generator. The research reactor puts out 1 ton of nuclear waste per cycle. It builds up fast. Also, for the pip reactor, you still need that many wheezewort seeds. If you've only got a dozen seeds, well, then that's all you can do. While there is effectively no limit to how much waste you can produce. Furthermore, you can pump it and ship it to anywhere you happen to need it. Anyway, my main point was that hundreds of shine bugs can seriously wreck your frame rate, especially late game. I haven't built one since the updates this summer, and I don't think it's as bad as it was, but nuclear waste is still my preferred route. Of course, work with whatever resources you happen to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberFubarius Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 13 hours ago, NewWorldDan said: The research reactor puts out 1 ton of nuclear waste per cycle. It builds up fast. Also, for the pip reactor, you still need that many wheezewort seeds. If you've only got a dozen seeds, well, then that's all you can do. While there is effectively no limit to how much waste you can produce. Furthermore, you can pump it and ship it to anywhere you happen to need it. Anyway, my main point was that hundreds of shine bugs can seriously wreck your frame rate, especially late game. I haven't built one since the updates this summer, and I don't think it's as bad as it was, but nuclear waste is still my preferred route. Of course, work with whatever resources you happen to have. Doesn't nuclear waste leak out liquid container? I had used a somewhat absurd setup of auto-pilot rocket (dupe gets dropped off immediately post launch) with the crew cabin consist of an infinite compression of nuclear waste storage with pumps to pump it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pether Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 17 hours ago, UberFubarius said: Doesn't nuclear waste leak out liquid container? it does, but if you use infinite storage made out of airflow tiles it stay there and it will be condensed to one tile on top of that, increasing radiating efficiency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceos Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 To answer the OP's question. No, not better but different use case. I am just not sure where it would fit into my tech progression... at the point in the game where I have 20+ wheeze seeds and enough pip's to simul-plant them I probably already have the ability to put up a nuke (very map and start dependt of course). I like a modest shine-bug farm early on since you can get radbolts, a bit of power and some lime and then I tend to transition* into a nuke build for more power and radbolts for the frame rate reasons described. So yeah... 10/10 for interesting use of mechanics (and as such thanks for posting... awesome) but not my early game go to (few normally planted wheeze / small shine reactor) or late game (nuke) for me. *Decomissioning shine bug reactor - build a room around the shine bug farm so that they don't reproduce anymore then release / kill the last few bugs when safe radiation levels are achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 6 hours ago, Ceos said: at the point in the game where I have 20+ wheeze seeds and enough pip's to simul-plant them I probably already have the ability to put up a nuke (very map and start dependt of course). You should look up for seed splitter/generator (example this one https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/133161-the-sleet-wheat-replicator/ ), very useful for making wanted mutant seeds and wheeze seeds early game. Taming and mutiply pips is not that much of problem, and they cause much less lag after you kill the pips, unlike shinebugs cause lag all the time during their life time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Didn't they nerf the shine bug reactor? Now they stop glowing if there are too many of them in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, psusi said: Didn't they nerf the shine bug reactor? Now they stop glowing if there are too many of them in the room. you mean light? i think they to still produce radiation tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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