Small Wormwood Change

[Trevindo]

Today I came here to talk about Wormwood and I wanted to propose to you that Wormwood would remove a point of stress when talking (works when using transformed form) with the plant for the first time in each of the growth stages, so Wormwood would be able to take care of the crop more easily and could cultivate giant plants out of season.

[Just-guy]

He is already the best at farming, I don't consider this change needed. He can tell what makes the crop stressed so you can correct what's causing the stress.

[HowlVoid]

I wondered this too once, but I was told it would be too "op". Something about getting giants crops with very minimal effort.

I'd like it if he could use the veggies he grows in a unique way. Maybe he could grow the bramble husk around his giant veggie friends to "protect" them. Then you'd have an elephant cactus from shipwrecked that spoils over time. It would really only be an improvement over his current traps which need resetting, and would require work to access them and a beefalo to carry them (wouldn't work on waxed veggies). 

[Mysterious box]

1 hour ago, Just-guy said:

He is already the best at farming, I don't consider this change needed. He can tell what makes the crop stressed so you can correct what's causing the stress.

I'd argue Wickerbottom is currently the best farmer actually he's the best low commitment farmer still though.

[robesssssssssss]

I think giant crops should consume more fertilizer in other seasons instead of being unable to grow

[Evelo]

I don't think that should be the case. If anything if a plant is planted out of season by Wormwood it could not suffer the growth speed reduction when not in season but even that seems like a stretch. I main Wormwood I feel like he could use other tools before resulting to this. (Please change Bramble Traps to either not damage walls or make a Wormwood specific Bramble Wall plz plz plz)

[Cheggf]

13 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

I'd argue Wickerbottom is currently the best farmer actually he's the best low commitment farmer still though.

Wormwood takes out the actual time spent on things like hoeing, all Wickerbottom does is skip the waiting that you can go do other things during.

[Parusoid]

19 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

Wickerbottom does is skip the waiting

the time spent on hoeing is miniscule compared to the vast amount of time skipped waiting for the crops to actually grow

[ArubaroBeefalo]

3 minutes ago, Parusoid said:

the time spent on hoeing is miniscule compared to the vast amount of time skipped waiting for the crops to actually grow

you can do other stuff while they grow

[Parusoid]

1 minute ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

you can do other stuff while they grow

okay? its not like reading takes 3 days 
wormwood has literally zero perks that helps growing plants faster, any other character can do what he can
the only thing that coukld be argued is his ability to passively talk to plants in one season, or with a use of a item outside of spring, which can be done by anyone with one man band, his other perks has zero influence on how fast crops grow

[ArubaroBeefalo]

Just now, Parusoid said:

okay? its not like reading takes 3 days 
wormwood has literally zero perks that helps growing plants faster, any other character can do what he can
the only thing that coukld be argued is his ability to passively talk to plants in one season, or with a use of a item outside of spring, which can be done by anyone with one man band, his other perks has zero influence on how fast crops grow

planting without using a hoe is godlike for me. By the time a regular character has planted 40 seeds, wormwood is already taking care of stage 2

[Parusoid]

22 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

 By the time a regular character has planted 40 seeds, wormwood is already taking care of stage 2

that is major overstatement
tilling and planting 40 seeds as character other than wormwood takes about 2 minutes
planting 40 seeds as wormwood takes about 30 seconds

so its impossible for a seed to be in second stage after 1,5 minutes when minimum time a seed need to grow to the next stage is 3 minutes in correct season

[Just-guy]

17 minutes ago, Parusoid said:

wormwood has literally zero perks that helps growing plants faster, any other character can do what he can
the only thing that coukld be argued is his ability to passively talk to plants in one season, or with a use of a item outside of spring, which can be done by anyone with one man band, his other perks has zero influence on how fast crops grow

You just said the perk he has to make crops grow faster.

And while other characters can also use the One-man Band to get the same benefit as Wormwood's bloom, other characters can teleport with the Lazy Explorer or tame spiders with the Spiderhat but that doesn't make Wortox or Webber bad.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

12 minutes ago, Parusoid said:

that is major overstatement
planting and hoeing 40 seeds as character other than wormwood takes about 2 minutes
planting 40 seeds as wormwood takes about 30 seconds

so its impossible for a seed to be in second stage after 1,5 minutes when minimum time a seed need to grow to the next stage is 6 minutes

do you use a mod to till the ground? i think i never tilled in 2 minutes that ammount of holes

also time is acumulates. Most likely you won't plant only 40 seeds but way more

wicker farming perks are really good but cant give giants and consumes sanity plus needs set up while wormwood can produce giants, is easy and for free

[Parusoid]

3 minutes ago, Just-guy said:

And while other characters can also use the One-man Band to get the same benefit as Wormwood's bloom, other characters can teleport with the Lazy Explorer or tame spiders with the Spiderhat but that doesn't make Wortox or Webber bad.

no one says that, the only thing pointed out in here is that given the same time to work, wickerbottom can grow crops faster and with less input than wormwood from the get go

[Mysterious box]

55 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

Wormwood takes out the actual time spent on things like hoeing, all Wickerbottom does is skip the waiting that you can go do other things during.

Wickerbottom's light book can have them grow quicker due to sunlight, there are various quick ways to replicate auto tend, and she can water the plants from anywhere in the server.

Wormwood just offers auto tend and quick plant.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

wormwood plants a combo in no time to get giants which gives x2.5 the ammount of seeds planted as veggie product meanwhile wicker does a lot of shenanigans just to get the ammount of seeds planted as veggie products and x2 seeds but according to some users she is better

Me no understand

[Parusoid]

Just now, ArubaroBeefalo said:

wormwood plants a combo in no time to get giants which gives x2.5 the ammount of seeds planted meanwhile wicker does a lot of shenanigans just to get the ammount of seeds planted as veggie products and x2 seeds but according to some users she is better

Me no understand

wickerbottom with ony 10 seeds and 1 book can have 50 crops in mere minutes, wormwood has to wait few days before harvest, and if you want highest yield (oversized crops) you need to add nutrients, water and talking to on every stage. wickerbottom skips water need, nutrients need and cuts down talking need by 75% (for crops to give 1 crop and 1 seed to replant only one-time talk is required, no need to talk to plants every stage)

so she is better when it comes to kickstarting farms with little input

[ArubaroBeefalo]

2 minutes ago, Parusoid said:

wickerbottom with ony 10 seeds and 1 book can have 50 crops in mere minutes, wormwood has to wait few days before harvest, and if you want highest yield (oversized crops) you need to add nutrients, water and talking to on every stage. wickerbottom skips water need, nutrients need and cuts down talking need by 75% (for crops to give 1 crop and 1 seed to replant only one-time talk is required, no need to talk to plants every stage)

so she is better when it comes to kickstarting farms with little input

nutrients are obtained by combo and watering and tending takes few seconds per day. with one big harvest you can suply a lot of years meanwhile wickerbottom needs to till the ground and read many times to reach a decent ammount of food.

Im not saying that is bad, is good and has uses like getting fast certain veggies needed or getting seeds in early but saying that is better than wormwood... i dont agree, just for how annoying is in comparation with wormwood she loses

[Parusoid]

4 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

with one big harvest you can suply a lot of years

how exactly? if you have 10 seeds the average crops you get is 28 plus about 22 seeds on average only if its giant crops

annoyance has nothing to do with being effective though

wormwood most likely shines when it comes to exponential growth and farms consisting many many many crops, but he needs time to get there  

[ArubaroBeefalo]

Just now, Parusoid said:

how exactly? if you have 10 seeds the average crops you get is 28 plus about 22 seeds on average only if its giant crops

10 seeds arent a big harvest...

read my comment, i already said that she is good to multiply seeds...

 

[Parusoid]

Just now, ArubaroBeefalo said:

10 seeds arent a big harvest...

read my comment, i already said that she is good to multiply seeds...

 

okay well if 10 seeds does not produce big harvest then what does? 100 seeds? if yes then this comparision makes only sense when you factor in the time needed to get those 100 seeds first

[ArubaroBeefalo]

Just now, Parusoid said:

okay well if 10 seeds does not produce big harvest then what does? 100 seeds? if yes then this comparision makes only sense when you factor in the time needed to get those 100 seeds first

which can be done in early while wicker is still crafting her books and the bookcase...

i dont get why you talk about 10 seeds harvest

[ShadowDuelist]

I'm having Wolfgang vs Wigfrid flashbacks all of a sudden...
 

[Parusoid]

1 minute ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

i dont get why you talk about 10 seeds harvest

cuz thats what you start with at least