HeatAndRun Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 I personally don't like the concept of extra equip slots mod, but inventory management in this game is one of the core aspects of the game I suppose. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 You don't need to permanently hold every single item that's been added. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Maybe, but again this game requires a lot of switching in and out of different items in your inventory- Getting cold? Equip hat, stand too close to raging campfire? Remove hat, Summer just started? Replaces regular fires with Endo Fires, did it just get dark? Equip torch or light source, hounds coming? Equip weapon and body armor- Starving? Eat that meaty stew in your inventory- boat just sprung a leak? Scroll to boat patches and apply them, All of this causes the inventory to “uncategorize” itself. I imagine that on PC it isn’t much of a problem because you can just press 1,2,3,4 whatever on Keyboard or drag and click with mouse- but on console: It’s all done by dragging your analog stick through your inventory and selecting what you want. Ark survival evolved let’s you “bind” specific items to specific button inputs such as- as you can see here left, up, right, down on D-pad are all bound to left hand side of screen: while holding in LB and pressing X,Y,B,A & Left, Right D-pad access the other 5 inventory slots towards the right hand side. Its less scrolling and Instant access to what you need when the situation calls for it. sure, having keys bounded to certain slots will be very helpful and is a great idea (i dont remember if there are unused keys to be able to do such change tho) but isnt related to organazing the inventory Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterxito Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 A friendly reminder that this exist Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 14 hours ago, ShadowDuelist said: Please no. Extra equip slots is a very bad mod because of this, it becomes a crutch when you still don’t understand one of the core mechanics of the game, and then you just don’t know how to play without it. I use to use the Extra Equip all the time. Then I decided to give it a try without it. Gotta admit it makes the game more difficult which in turn makes preparation feel rewarding. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallBirdHungry Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 16 hours ago, tragco said: we are all having to use mods just to take care of this oversight Well I definitely don't speak for everyone but I'm 99% sure I speak for all Console players when I say... Ummm... No? 6 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: See- the thing is (if you’ve ever played the game on Xbox for longer then a few hours) inventory management is a pain in the butt with a Xbox Controller- I’m not sure about PlayStation or Switch but I Assume they are in the same category.. Look at every video or screenshot I’ve ever posted- my inventory is always a jumbled mess- but that’s no fault of my own doing.. Anytime the player needs to swap between walking cane or weapon or harvesting tool and light source the inventory scrambles itself up- this part of the game isn’t fun it’s actually just annoying.. To make matters worse- Unless you read the wiki or look into the game files your not going to know that mobs prioritize stealing things from left to right. On Ark Survival Evolved for example: There is a dedicated slot specifically just for “taming” creatures with. I don’t find having to move my inventory around to be fun, like State of Decay 2- Weapons go in Weapon Slot, Melee Weapons go in Melee Slot and when they’re in the backpack.. Press (Whatever Button) to Auto swap the currently equipped one for the one in the backpack. The Drag move and drop features are a painful relic of Keyboard and Mouse design- and at least on Xbox, it is NOT fun.. Ive observed thousands of hours of players playing on PC through Twitch- and what is painfully easy for them like swapping between a weapon and a walking cane to avoid getting hit with perfect kiting skills- is near impossible on Console. Again this isn’t any fault of our own doing.. it’s because I Can’t just do something like assign a slot to the Y button (inspect stuff on Xbox) and bind a second item to Y button and when say I’m hovering over my weapon in my inventory- Y can swap to it, and swaps the weapon to the Walking cane- Pressing Y again while the cane is hovered over in inventory: swaps it back out for weapon. This would be a massive QoL for controller players.. If you play for a bit it becomes pretty obvious that items are stolen left to right. Also I don't find swapping as bad as you say, because you can use d-pad to swap quicker. The annoying part is when something else goes into a slot reserved for an item and messes it all up. I've never needed to swap between a weapon and cane for fast kiting because Xbox version is so laggy you can't kite with walking cane, cobblestones, and two speed circuits! 5 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Scroll to boat patches and apply them Wait... Your xbox lets you place boat patches? My game never lets me target boat or leaks. Yes DST I would like to use a boat patch on my steering wheel, thanks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloakingsumo198 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, SmallBirdHungry said: Yes DST I would like to use a boat patch on my steering wheel, thanks. I'm still surprised there isn't a button that lets you reset the current targeting on controller. Always walking back and forth between selectables just to pick up a rabbit trap or use a boat patch. Or you know retargeting on to priority targets like mctusk ice hounds with a blowdarts instead of hitting his fat head. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 13 hours ago, Echsrick said: what is this inventory sorting? it hurts...its all over the place I do things by visual and many times don't need to search like majority of the times you are not going to need tools on you. and why take up a slot when you can have 3 dedicated slots to the materials for crafting. grass twigs flint. The rest is fair game. plus i am visual i don't need to organize back then if abby died all my flowers would turn red so just need to look for red. i rarely ever use the number keys to swap inventory. but thats probably cause im used to the computer. i always just use the mouse. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Play walter if you have inventory problems, great character for using chest slot clothing for better seasonal insulation since woby can replace backpacks Or for doubling down with more inventory slots with piggy backpack since riding woby negates 10% speed penality. Great Qol character for all your hoarding needs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeClops Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 automatic sorting (and obviously customizable) slots would be pretty good to be honest, for console players at in particular. As for the inventory size itself, I think it's more than enough. 4 hours ago, SmallBirdHungry said: Wait... Your xbox lets you place boat patches? My game never lets me target boat or leaks. Yes DST I would like to use a boat patch on my steering wheel, thanks. keep your boat clean mate yeah targeting stuff on boats is a mess, the best solution is to just have as little items/structures around you as possible. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Guy000 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Skill issue Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallBirdHungry Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 14 hours ago, BeeClops said: automatic sorting (and obviously customizable) slots would be pretty good to be honest, for console players at in particular. As for the inventory size itself, I think it's more than enough. keep your boat clean mate yeah targeting stuff on boats is a mess, the best solution is to just have as little items/structures around you as possible. Even if the boat has nothing the plank takes priority over the boat most of the time and it's really annoying Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baark0 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 6:00 AM, lakhnish said: Wear a piggyback like me, as I too am bad at inventory management, alternatively just get lucky and have klaus drop a krampus sack first kill Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Princess Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 The key is to plan each particular trip that requires a lot of space. For example, Wagstaff quests. Recently I tried to "rush" multiple CC fights, therefore planned to do several Wagstaff minigames before going to base. I farmed materials for 4 fights and visited base to drop staff mid-farming once. That was spring, so I had following items in the inventory (I used piggyback and no other storage like chester): - food bundle (meaty stew, honey hams); - infused shards bundle; - twigs, rope, silk and a few gold nuggets (for recrafting golden pickaxes, bug nets and rebundling stuff); - beefalo bell - rain hat and rain coat (hat for general movement, coat for Wagstaff minigames); - desert goggles; - torch; - walking cane; - piggyback (equipped). Which is total of 13 slots from 30 (15 + 3 + 12), and that means I had 17 more slots to work with. Even with armor and weapon it's 15 more slots to use, and one doesn't need character-specific items all the time. Those free slots I used for: - moongleams (60, 3 slots); - golden pickaxe and bug net that I was using at the moment; - infused moon shards that were not bundled yet; - food that was outside of bundle at the moment; - as much restrained static as I could hold. So that were another 7 slots that left 8 more for statics. To create space for Wagstaff tools I dropped some of the already acquired statics near my piggyback each time I did quest, same for place for rebundling; I had to go to base once (which wasn't necessary in retrospective should I plan as I described above, but I did a bit worse at that time), but had I brought 1 more empty bundle with me, I would have had exactly the space I needed to farm materials for 4 fights in 1 trip (12 statics!). Plus once all moongleams were caught I didn't have to carry bug net anymore, same for when I farmed all infused shards I needed (and bundled them all along with what was left from pickaxe), same for gold nuggets for extra pickaxes (I brought exactly the amount I needed so I used them all, but I easily could have bundled them into food bundle), and I used all silk I took with me. That actually left me with 13 slots for statics, and I was set on shards and moongleams long before I needed all my slots for statics. So I could farm everything I needed with all items I had at the time should I take into account all those items that would break/go into bundle until CC fight. I could have used insulated pack and have total 26 slots to work with (even less!). But even in that case I would have had 13 slots (after all necessary gear taken into account), and 6 slots to work with all the time (for statics). But agan, once I had used all bug nets, pickaxes, gold nuggets, silk, bundled all infused shards I actually would have had 11 slots for statics and visit base once (or bring 1 extra empty bundle). And then on day 130 4th CC was killed (day 140 in another world, so it was consistent). I actually like inventory managment as a mechanic, and anyway after playing Wilba (wereWilba) in Hamlet it all feels like a lot of space even during moonstorms. To learn inventory managment, I recommend to try playing as wereWilba if you can (I guess Wheeler can help to learn this too). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhh2 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 1:10 AM, Chesterxito said: A friendly reminder that this exist Yeah, Chester is great and all, but I swear, like dropping a pen from your desk, put the eyebone down and wonder off-screen for a few seconds and the eyebone and Chester vanish. In my current mega-base world, I lost him day 340, and still haven't found him 200 days later... Why does the map-icon disappear in DST? This was never a problem in singleplayer, as the map-icon would persist. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiliano Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just going against those who attack Extra Equip Slots and, as much as I understand that it can be a crutch and get in the way of players who won't learn to play without it, here's a defense of the mod: I've never seen a player, in my entire life , giving up using a backpack, whatever it is, to use the vests in the game. There is the exchange of backpack for armor/amulet for fighting, but not for vests. So yes, this mod can add a lot to the game too. Hibernation and Cawnival vests i would love to wear u, but not without extra equip slots Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeClops Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 10 hours ago, SmallBirdHungry said: Even if the boat has nothing the plank takes priority over the boat most of the time and it's really annoying Yeah the plank is so annoying I agree. I'd be totally for removing the plank all together on console, it's not like we'd lose out on the meta of abandoning ship. 20 minutes ago, hhh2 said: Yeah, Chester is great and all, but I swear, like dropping a pen from your desk, put the eyebone down and wonder off-screen for a few seconds and the eyebone and Chester vanish. In my current mega-base world, I lost him day 340, and still haven't found him 200 days later... Why does the map-icon disappear in DST? This was never a problem in singleplayer, as the map-icon would persist. celestial orb always in chester. Game changer, never looked back. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Castiliano said: Just going against those who attack Extra Equip Slots and, as much as I understand that it can be a crutch and get in the way of players who won't learn to play without it, here's a defense of the mod: I've never seen a player, in my entire life , giving up using a backpack, whatever it is, to use the vests in the game. There is the exchange of backpack for armor / amulet for fighting, but not for vests. So yes, this mod can add a lot to the game too. Hibernation and Cawnival vests i would love to use u, but not without extra equip slots Play walter then, you can afford to lose backpack all together with wobys slots. Honestly ive got used to double stacking beefalo hat with buffy vest for winter (if you start at 50C it abit over 2days to freeze... absolutely awesome) that its impossible to go back to the nooby thermal stone ( you freeze in abit over half a day.... terrible.) Vests are extremely good and definitely worth it if you have the inventory management skills to make use of them. That mod removes the balance, vest or backpack... you shouldnt have both. (Indirectly nerfs walter as well... his main ability is better inventory and speed) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiliano Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gashzer said: Play walter then, you can afford to lose backpack all together with wobys slots. Honestly ive got used to double stacking beefalo hat with buffy vest for winter (if you start at 50C it abit over 2days to freeze... absolutely awesome) that its impossible to go back to the nooby thermal stone ( you freeze in abit over half a day.... terrible.) Vests are extremely good and definitely worth it if you have the inventory management skills to make use of them. That mod removes the balance, vest or backpack... you shouldnt have both. (Indirectly nerfs walter as well... his main ability is better inventory and speed) Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't want to play with a specific character to use the vests in the game, I think they should be more balanced for all characters. Yes, I disagree that it's balanced, for several years following this game, I've never seen a player go from using a backpack to wearing vests. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Castiliano said: Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't want to play with a specific character to use the vests in the game, I think they should be more balanced for all characters. Yes, I disagree that it's balanced, in almost a decade following this game, I've never seen a player go from using a backpack to wearing vests. But even if you don't play walter, use chester. You really do not need a backpack after you have an established base. Yeah we disagree, i think its balanced as is. You shouldn't be allowed it all. That mod also allows you to stack yellow amulet with everything else for light an speed as well? Totally broken mod that no new players should ever use tbh... inventory management is a key mechanic, having to choose one thing or another is fun an makes you actually measure up your equipment for each situation. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, Castiliano said: Just going against those who attack Extra Equip Slots and, as much as I understand that it can be a crutch and get in the way of players who won't learn to play without it, here's a defense of the mod: I've never seen a player, in my entire life , giving up using a backpack, whatever it is, to use the vests in the game. There is the exchange of backpack for armor/amulet for fighting, but not for vests. So yes, this mod can add a lot to the game too. Hibernation and Cawnival vests i would love to wear u, but not without extra equip slots I have never seen anyone beat AFW, celestial, SCP, BQ, or toad without my help. Should I come to the conclusion that no one ever kills anything harder than deerclops based on what I've seen people who join public servers do, or do people on public servers not represent everyone and might be acting differently than how they would on a private server? I almost never use backpacks regardless of my character choice. It's thulecite vest and magi during calm weather and it gets replaced with appropriate weather clothes like a rain coat or hibearnation vest when appropriate. The only time I use a backpack a lot is when I'm on a public server and don't have a secret base somewhere since then I need to hold random crap that you don't normally hold like twigs and grass or else it'll all magically disappear from the world. What all are you holding where 28 slots isn't enough? I only need about 7 slots. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiliano Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, Cheggf said: I have never seen anyone beat AFW, celestial, SCP, BQ, or toad without my help. Should I come to the conclusion that no one ever kills anything harder than deerclops based on what I've seen people who join public servers do, or do people on public servers not represent everyone and might be acting differently than how they would on a private server? I almost never use backpacks regardless of my character choice. It's thulecite vest and magi during calm weather and it gets replaced with appropriate weather clothes like a rain coat or hibearnation vest when appropriate. The only time I use a backpack a lot is when I'm on a public server and don't have a secret base somewhere since then I need to hold random crap that you don't normally hold like twigs and grass or else it'll all magically disappear from the world. What all are you holding where 28 slots isn't enough? I only need about 7 slots. Fortunately, there are a lot of streams and stuff happening that we can watch almost all the time. It is a fact that one of these backpack/piggyback/insulated pack/krampus sack is high priority for the majority of players I just checked the 30 most watched live channels on Twitch of the moment and every player is using some sort of backpack. It's not just a coincidence. Perhaps, you are the exception, so congratulations. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinsdaleP Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, Gashzer said: Honestly ive got used to double stacking beefalo hat with buffy vest for winter (if you start at 50C it abit over 2days to freeze... absolutely awesome) that its impossible to go back to the nooby thermal stone ( you freeze in abit over half a day.... terrible.) Vests are extremely good and definitely worth it if you have the inventory management skills to make use of them. funnily enough, you can have both, though it takes a bit of prep time. scorching sunfish + insulated pack and a few tin fishing bins scattered around the map is amazing as it is (add bundling wraps and you can even go caving, each last 2.5 days in winter), but you actually need to find 'em in in your first summer. another option is a few Hot Dragon Chili Salads, which can easily get you through the winter, though you need to grow dragonfruit and pepper for it during the summer, and either need a Warly or to switch characters. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Castiliano said: Fortunately, there are a lot of streams and stuff happening that we can watch almost all the time. It is a fact that one of these backpack/piggyback/insulated pack/krampus sack is high priority I just checked the 30 most watched live channels on Twitch of the moment and every player is using some sort of backpack. It's not just a coincidence. Perhaps, you are the exception, so congratulations. Oh wow 30 whole people. The twitch streamers who have a ton of mods and do things like carry 6 different trinkets for 3 hours before realizing they're doing that are surely who we should all look to for guidance. Looks like it's impossible to get by without a backpack. My question wasn't rhetorical, it was genuine. Why are 28 slots not enough? What are you holding? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiliano Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Cheggf said: Oh wow 30 whole people. The twitch streamers who have a ton of mods and do things like carry 6 different trinkets for 3 hours before realizing they're doing that are surely who we should all look to for guidance. Looks like it's impossible to get by without a backpack. My question wasn't rhetorical, it was genuine. Why are 28 slots not enough? What are you holding? It's enough for me. I'm satistified with the amount of basic item slots available, so I'm even a little off-topic here. I just opened a parenthesis to talk about the mod in question and the possibility of wearing a vest without having to take off a backpack. I didn't get into the amulets/armor issue either. I just like the perspective that a mod can add more than it takes away, although that will be relative to each player. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/141598-reworksupdates-need-to-add-2-inventory-slots/page/2/#findComment-1583502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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