Character development off screen and idea for a new mechanic

[MikoFanboy]

Don't starve together has a lot of character but they (as a character, not as a playable char controlled by player) in a group rarely interact on screen, the Inspect or examine funtion of the game is the only way for us to see them they talk to or about other character but the downside is the dialogue are permanent

for example, if character A says they dislike B then no matter what B does or how long they stay together, A will alway say they hate B

therefore, the development of the character themself, their relationship,... happen off screen, from the animation short, trailer, rework,... and it can happen "quite sudden", you know?
Anyway, speaking of rework, I alway love that some character rework isn't just them suddenly have new item out of nowhere, but in lore, the other character help them

like Wickerbottom help Woodie discovered that his transformations could be controlled, or the upcoming WX78 rework is because of Winona... but those stuff happened off screen 

for player, one day Woodie was just a werebeaver then the next day, he become ben10 after the rework ...

So what if... instead of the reworked character just change after an update, Klei could add a "interact" mechanic

for example: after Wx rework, he still is the same old Wx, but if someone esle play Winona, those 2 can interact to help Wx unlock his new ability 

not all character need to be intractable with the every other, it just some character can make a good combo 

We all know the Wigfrid vs Wolfgang, Maxwell vs Woodie,... what if they can interact with each other to unlock a new ability, therefore, 2 can be played in the same server without being told by "that guy" that "We already Maxwell as our lumberjack, no need for Woodie"

make their character develop on screen

I'm thinking about a few combo:
Wilson helps Wendy create potion for abigail

Wendy helps Willow's Bernie become stronger 

Wigfrid give Wolfgang more courage in battle

Maxwell helps Wickerbottom with her shadow magic fomr the book

Wurt helps Webber train his spider army,... 

Plus, this will solve the problem of people want old character before rework

if you like old Wx, don't interact with Winona ....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SomebodyRandom]

And what about people that play alone?

[MikoFanboy]

22 minutes ago, SomebodyRandom said:

And what about people that play alone?

well they shouldn't? it's Don't Starve Together. not Don't starve alone? :v 

consider it as a challenge for playing alone then :v

or maybe a late game item that somehow help?

[SomebodyRandom]

1 minute ago, MikoFanboy said:

well they shouldn't? it's Don't Starve Together. not Don't starve alone? :v 

bruh.

[MikoFanboy]

Just now, SomebodyRandom said:

bruh.

I mean, Don't starve moves from being a single player game into a multiplayer game for a reason :v 

plus, if you play alone
the your experience will be just like the Don't starve together before rework

it could be a perfect transition for someone who just move from playing the orginal Don't Starve into Don't Starve Together, no?

 

[SomebodyRandom]

5 minutes ago, MikoFanboy said:

the your experience will be just like the Don't starve together before rework

But I want to play Don't Starve Together, not Don't Starve Together but slightly outdated.

Also imagine I lose the ability to fertilize with rot everytime I start a new world and need someone to play a specific character just to be able to fertilize with rot again. That'd be hell.

[MikoFanboy]

1 minute ago, SomebodyRandom said:

But I want to play Don't Starve Together, not Don't Starve Together but slightly outdated.

:v then play it "Together " :v

Speaking of "slightly outdated." Isn't the idea of playing alone is outdated itself since it was what you do in the original Don't starve which is pretty outdated nowadays compared to DST :v

[SomebodyRandom]

2 minutes ago, MikoFanboy said:

:v then play it "Together " :v

Speaking of "slightly outdated." Isn't the idea of playing alone is outdated itself since it was what you do in the original Don't starve which is pretty outdated nowadays compared to DST :v

Together how? I don't have friends to play with me whenever I want, they have their own lives. And I'm not going to play some public server, I know how hellish that is.

Also just because you can play the game multiplayer, doesn't mean everyone should be forced to. There's a gamemode called "Alone" for heaven's sake.

[Hornete]

This is a terrible idea to implement in general for everyone.

However I do genuinely think It'd be fun to push Wilson into a direction where he can "upgrade" other character perks with his unconventional means of science. Keeps him perk-less by himself but fun with others. It sounds like a really weird direction to go for a rework, "A character that gets to give all the fun stuff to others but has nothing themselves?". But I do genuinely think it'd be really fun to do, I've been wanting the game design for these reworks to go a bit wackier and I think this'd be a fun direction to push Wilson in. Could work as a final rework, and even putting in final changes for ALL the characters as a finishing note for the end of the reworks. There are some design issues that I can think of like, no character should hopefully feel like they need a Wilson on the server to be viable, should just be nice little things y'know?

 

[-Variant]

8 minutes ago, MikoFanboy said:

well they shouldn't? it's Don't Starve Together. not Don't starve alone? :v 

Something to note that yes, its a multiplayer game, but no, you really shouldn't screw over people who want to play alone sometimes.

I love this game with my heart and soul, but I don't always want to play with other people. Something nice about this game is that even then it still lets me do mostly anything I want without needing another player. That's just how it is, and I wouldn't have it any other way. 

[MikoFanboy]

2 minutes ago, -Variant said:

you really shouldn't screw over people who want to play alone

I wouldn't say it's "screw over people who want to play alone" since the worst case is you playing DST character before they get rework

which they all function fine before 

well, maybe with some tweak

like Wendy can still control abigail but the potion that buff abigail is lock behind the interaction with other?

or Woodie pre-rework should work like the Don't Starve Woodie instead of the old DST Woodie, and the ability to craft the Idol is locked behind the interaction with wickerbottom

10 minutes ago, Hornete said:

However I do genuinely think It'd be fun to push Wilson into a direction where he can "upgrade" other character perks with his unconventional means of science. Keeps him perk-less by himself but fun with others. It sounds like a really weird direction to go for a rework, "A character that gets to give all the fun stuff to others but has nothing themselves?". But I do genuinely think it'd be really fun to do, I've been wanting the game design for these reworks to go a bit wackier and I think this'd be a fun direction to push Wilson in. Could work as a final rework, and even putting in final changes for ALL the characters as a finishing note for the end of the reworks. There are some design issues that I can think of like, no character should hopefully feel like they need a Wilson on the server to be viable, should just be nice little things y'know?

 

yeah, Wilson could be really helpful with it

[-Variant]

3 minutes ago, MikoFanboy said:

I wouldn't say it's "screw over people who want to play alone" since the worst case is you playing DST character before they get rework

Screw over is a poor choice of words on my end, but my point stands, it's really not fun being locked out of a feature or mechanic.

The ONLY instance Klei has ever really done this is with the Lazy Deserter. Which sucks. I don't think a lot of folks enjoy not being able to use it without another player.

[hhh2]

35 minutes ago, MikoFanboy said:

Isn't the idea of playing alone is outdated itself

Together still plays better alone besides bosses imo.

[Starlogy]

It's a cute idea, but not a very good one unfortunately. That would be a massive pain in the ass to anyone who plays alone, as others have said before me.

[kiwikenobi]

9 hours ago, Hornete said:

However I do genuinely think It'd be fun to push Wilson into a direction where he can "upgrade" other character perks with his unconventional means of science. Keeps him perk-less by himself but fun with others. It sounds like a really weird direction to go for a rework, "A character that gets to give all the fun stuff to others but has nothing themselves?". But I do genuinely think it'd be really fun to do

As a Wilson main, I really like this idea. I like Wilson the way he is, I don't think he needs to be changed. But allowing him to change the game for other characters sounds really cool.