Taking a break until this game is fixed

[nimzowitsch10]

I think i'll take a break from this game for a while. This new update really ruined DST for me because of the many crashes and the many glitches and the new UI. How they even pushed an update this buggy and bad is beyond me. I understand everyone here worships the devs but if I'm keeping it one hundred percent this is possibly the worst update DST has ever gotten in my 2 years of playing this. Once the devs get everything smoothed out I'll be happy to play again. Anyone else feeling this way?

[lakhnish]

Provide a client_crash log so that the devs can address any issues. We didn't get everything in the beta since not everyone plays the beta.

[dubious little]

If you're crashing from your mods thats not really a Klei issue (they usually do stuff to prevent crashes from mods but this big of a change its hard to) otherwise I dunno how you're crashing. If you're not a fan of the ui you can always just favourite what you will ever wanna use and just use that tab.

[SomebodyRandom]

If you don't report the issue, it'll never get solved. We try our best at the beta to get everything done as well as possible, but we're not robots so we can't just systematically find every single bug in this period of time and get it to the devs for it to get fixed.

Also we don't worship the devs like at all, have you seen the forums during Wolfgang rework? We just like the UI and it's that simple.

[Cheggf]

I haven't crashed once and they say they fixed the one bug I noticed that was introduced in this update. Are you sure you don't just have 300 mods that are outdated and are blaming Klei for your own decisions for some reason?

[Captain_Rage]

8 hours ago, nimzowitsch10 said:

 Anyone else feeling this way?

Not a single crash here and I my computer is not even running Windows, which is by far the most supported platform.

39 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

Are you sure you don't just have 300 mods that are outdated and are blaming Klei for your own decisions for some reason?

That was also my spontaneous thought after reading the post for two seconds since it is filled with vague complaints about the game crashing and lacks any logs or information about the affected installation that would help to troubleshoot the problem.

[Cheggf]

7 minutes ago, Captain_Rage said:

That was also my spontaneous thought after reading the post for two seconds since it is filled with vague complaints about the game crashing and lacks any logs or information about the affected installation that would help to troubleshoot the problem.

Yeah, exactly. I was actually laughing with my friends when I saw the patch note that the devs have updated the game itself to make Status Announcement stop crashing. It was surreal seeing the devs make a mod stop crashing instead of the mod author doing so. 

No idea how someone could see them do that then make a thread like this. 

[reallychina]

9 hours ago, nimzowitsch10 said:

I think i'll take a break from this game for a while. This new update really ruined DST for me because of the many crashes and the many glitches and the new UI. How they even pushed an update this buggy and bad is beyond me. I understand everyone here worships the devs but if I'm keeping it one hundred percent this is possibly the worst update DST has ever gotten in my 2 years of playing this. Once the devs get everything smoothed out I'll be happy to play again. Anyone else feeling this way?

If you re crashing its because you re using random obscure mods that the creators did not update yet.

 

Ive played the beta and the relrase for dozens of hours and only crashed in the first day of beta.

 

Disable obscure mods and provide crash logs, quit complaining.

 

As much as i loathe the devs for their shitty attitude during wolfgang rework, they did a very good job with the Qol update

[MondayNight]

I think a lot of people here - and frankly it does not surprise me given most forumers, in past polls, admitted playing DST always alone on personal private servers - omit, probably unwillingly, the state of dedicated servers out there in server populace, more-so new KLei official pubs, when assessing game's general health via existing bugs. I forgot for how many times I've underlined next game-breaking issues: the CURL error (especially crashing Cave shard, introduced in late-autumn of 2021), "???" ping estimation failure (almost 1 year old, plaguing both personal and dedicated servers, virtually relegating them to server list's bottom, "ghost towns" never to be visited by players no-matter-what), faulty 12-slots dedicated KLei servers unable to support more than 8 players (horrid lag when 10-12 players present, probably because hardware isn't powerful enough, prone to crashing), lack of saving system between updates for current KLei official servers (each update in the chain deleting past progress completely - apparently is by-product of these servers being WIP), de-linkage between Forest and Cave shards, etc.

True, most recent crashes are caused by mods, but then again KLei revamping Crafting UI really took a toll on modding community since said UI comes with profound redesign, code-and-function wise - hence it was to be expected for mods to, more-or-less, be unplayable for some time after update, till modders updated their work too. Dismissing people and their problems (like OP's plus subsequent player actions/choices) isn't constructive at all, no matter the cause - don't forget KLei actively encourages player-base to use mods with appropriate in-game section, highlighting new submissions and such, going so far as providing tutorials & forums on modding to player-base at large.

[Cheggf]

5 minutes ago, x0-VERSUS-1y said:

CURL error (especially crashing Cave shard, introduced in late-autumn of 2021), "???" ping estimation failure (almost 1 year old, plaguing both personal and dedicated servers, virtually relegating them to server list's bottom, "ghost towns" never to be visited by players no-matter-what), faulty 12-slots dedicated KLei servers unable to support more than 8 players (horrid lag when 10-12 players present, probably because hardware isn't powerful enough, prone to crashing), lack of saving system between updates for current KLei official servers

I play almost exclusively on Klei servers and haven't noticed these. It used to be basically guaranteed the caves are gone back around waterlogged, but I haven't seen them be gone recently.

Besides, he isn't talking about old bugs, he's complaining about the unmentioned bugs introduced in this update.

7 minutes ago, x0-VERSUS-1y said:

Dismissing people and their problems isn't constructive at all,

What problems? He literally didn't say anything. People here are asking him to elaborate on what he means and provide crash logs so they can help him.

[Primalflower]

a handful of popular mods crashed initially when the update was officially released. as far as I remember, i think Status Announcements and... possibly, combined status? were crashing, but then were fixed in the same day. Its possible that you simply haven't gone into the mods menu and manually updated your mods, causing them to crash your game over and over.

This isn't the devs fault, and they've even shown an amount of initiative by changing things around in code so some popular mod's crashes are avoided. It is scummy of you to start a topic with saying that we worship the devs, etc, because in turn any positive thought towards them will be interpreted this way, even if that isn't how it is.

[MondayNight]

3 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

I play almost exclusively on Klei servers and haven't noticed these. It used to be basically guaranteed the caves are gone back around waterlogged, but I haven't seen them be gone recently.

Besides, he isn't talking about old bugs, he's complaining about the unmentioned bugs introduced in this update.

What problems? He literally didn't say anything. People here are asking him to elaborate on what he means and provide crash logs so they can help him.

My reply is general, related to bugs accumulation that may push players towards OP's direction: indefinitely taking a break from game, and why is a valid approach. OP may provide bugs feedback or not, is not their obligation really, especially given how many game-breaking bugs are out there, left as-they-are for a long time to the point of discouraging people from pointing at them any further. Plus I've just mentioned: mods incompatibility with current new Crafting UI - is in fact a problem introduced by latest update. You can blame, truthfully, mod usage as a player-problem, but then again KLei does encourage mods use, hence making it their problem too.

I don't know where you play KLei official pubs, I do in EU and have never encountered someone with your nick - well, assuming you use same nick on Steam (wouldn't even surprise me if I had you in my Steam friends list as well, 3 more people/KLei forumers "bamboozled" me that way, which was pretty amusing). But I think you can also agree current KLei pubs aren't designed for more than 8 players, even if they stretched the bar to 12: from early game, but especially mid-to-end game it lags so badly when more than 8 players are present to the unplayability point ("red" host) when server's fully occupied. Then it crashes - the CURL error was signaled on community pubs that have server logs, of course, since we regular players can't normally know what caused a KLei pub to "go belly up".

[Cannoli]

4 hours ago, Cheggf said:

Yeah, exactly. I was actually laughing with my friends when I saw the patch note that the devs ...

You and your friends have a weird humor sense.

Whereaver, again: the new UI don't need a 24h lawyer. Take a break and go rest, Dude. Or try play something, like DST. Everybody is full of your repetitive posts about this subject. We already know your opinion, let people give theirs. You are trolling too much even for a Klei forum member.

[Hornete]

4 hours ago, Cheggf said:

Yeah, exactly. I was actually laughing with my friends when I saw the patch note that the devs have updated the game itself to make Status Announcement stop crashing. It was surreal seeing the devs make a mod stop crashing instead of the mod author doing so. 

No idea how someone could see them do that then make a thread like this. 

I believe the crash was because of a removed function.

It depends on the circumstances whether the Mod author or the Game developers should pitch in to help with a crash. Usually it's really bad practice to completely remove a function which is what the devs had done iirc that caused some mods to crash. Usually the function is just made empty, mods that use the function might not work, but they'll atleast not crash. Most other crashes are mods faults as far as I'm aware however.
 

[Cheggf]

1 hour ago, Hornete said:

I believe the crash was because of a removed function.

It depends on the circumstances whether the Mod author or the Game developers should pitch in to help with a crash. Usually it's really bad practice to completely remove a function which is what the devs had done iirc that caused some mods to crash. Usually the function is just made empty, mods that use the function might not work, but they'll atleast not crash. Most other crashes are mods faults as far as I'm aware however.
 

Makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the explanation.

 

3 hours ago, x0-VERSUS-1y said:

But I think you can also agree current KLei pubs aren't designed for more than 8 players, even if they stretched the bar to 12: from early game, but especially mid-to-end game it lags so badly when more than 8 players are present to the unplayability point ("red" host) when server's fully occupied. Then it crashes

Maybe the EU servers suck but I've never noticed anything like that on the US ones. The only issue I've noticed is that there's very few people on because there's so many servers to choose from now. But if the server does happen to get 12 players on it I don't notice even the slightest amount of lag.

[goblinball]

4 hours ago, x0-VERSUS-1y said:

indefinitely taking a break from game, and why is a valid approach.

The problem isn’t that the OP is taking an indefinite break from the game, that’s a completely fine thing to do regardless of the reasons. The problem is people giving extremely vague, unhelpful complaints regarding the new update, ranging from “it’s uncomfortable” to “it crashes”. It’s very clear the people making these complaints want these issues fixed; if they didn’t care then why would they complain in the first place? However they’re not helping anyone solve these issues in any way, as these incredibly vague descriptions of issues make pinpointing the actual flaws and problems an impossibility. This is especially true considering how most of the complaints regarding crashes aren’t even klei’s fault, so most of the time there’s not much they can do about it and if people want these crashes reduced they should help modders and actually provide crash logs.

Regarding the “bug accumulation” you brought up, most of them i think are uncommon issues, judging by other forum users claiming they have yet to experience them (I haven’t, either). Nor are they really very relevant to the discussion, I don’t entirely understand why they were brought up.

3 hours ago, Cannoli said:

Whereaver, again: the new UI don't need a 24h lawyer. Take a break and go rest, Dude. Or try play something, like DST. Everybody is full of your repetitive posts about this subject. We already know your opinion, let people give theirs. You are trolling too much even for a Klei forum member.

Someone wanting to discuss a new update with other people on the forums is perfectly acceptable. Also, what was meant by “everybody is full of your repetitive posts about this subject”? Did you ask everyone on the forums before saying this? I’m personally fine with Cheggf’s recent posts, it seems to me like you are trying to speak for other people without actually knowing their opinions. If you are, please don’t do this. Please be more respectful, it seems awfully hypocritical to tell someone to let people give their opinions whilst condemning said person for giving their own.