What's a good place to store water?

[Noahisnothere]

I have two liquid reservoirs used to store germ filled water, used for plants, machines, cleaning stations etc. And I wanna know a good place to store this water before the second liquid reservoir fills up and becomes a problem with it backing up, I have 3 lavatories in my base with one not being really used because its in a hospital, and 6 duplicants, lavatories created more polluted water than they consume regular water (they consume 5kg a of water and create 11.7kg of polluted water) and my first liquid reservoir is nearly filled up to its max capacity. 



    

[Xenotrix]

Just deconstruct liquid reservoir after filled. Bottle with 5 ton of polluted water dropped on floor. Then rebuild liquid reservoir on same place. You can repeat this action and store infinite any liquid in bottle. Polutted water in bottle have bonus: polutted oxygen which you can convert to oxygen + clay with deodorizer.

Alternative variants:
1. Build big pools

2. Spam liquid reservoir everywhere (may combine with step 1)

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3.  Or used glitched infinite storage for compact store water.

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Personally, I disfavour of the 3rd method, but people like it and they use it. 

[FenrirZeroZero]

Alternative 4: Install a mod for bigger storage capacity. 

[SamLogan]

1 hour ago, Xenotrix said:

3.  Or used glitched infinite storage for compact store water.

Personally, I disfavour of the 3rd method, but people like it and they use it. 

It's not a glitch given the game integrate compressed liquid as you can see in the magma biome. It's frequent to have crude oil pool are compressed by having a liquid pression above 800 Kg / tile.

Also, if you compressed liquid, the wall break, so it's planned by the dev you can compressed the liquid and you have to protect your walls with doors or airflow tiles. In contrary, gas have no pressure on the wall and here we can talk about glitch mostly you have to drown the vent.

About the liquid vent, we just use a game mechanic : "only one matter per tile".

But why some people thinks, it's glitch? Because, it's not physically possible, so it's a glitch. But a glitch it's when you bypass games restrictions, and with the liquid compressors there's no restrictions are bypass.

[Xenotrix]

I think all this cool stuff, infinite storage with indestructible doors, flooded gas vent and electrolyzer for bypass overpressure, borg cube (rip), gaseous element converter (still works?) and more, we always can explain special game mechanics. This is a fantastic world with fictional physics, only vaguely reminiscent of ours world. Before developers fixed them, they all can be considered as features. I will not convince that this is bad. This is just a game, everyone decides for himself what to use and how to play.

[cezarica]

This is how I control the input from lavatories, showers and sinks and supply them back with some fresh germs free water.

[Neotuck]

In bathroom loops you always deal with extra PW from lavatories

Best way to deal with overflow is to redirect extra PW into a hydroponic tile with a thimble reed.  Just one should be enough to handle it

Here's a screenshot of my bathroom loop design, the thimble reed is located in the bottom left by the water sieve

 

[suicide commando]

Came here to post the same thing as Neo said. A hydroponic tile with a thimble reed is a great way to get rid of that excess germy pwater. Thimble reeds require 160kg/cycle of pWater and nothing else to grow, so can absorb all that excess water nicely and give you some initial reed fibers for suits and paintings.

[TheMule]

Thimble reeds as overflow system are great! The only thing you need to be careful about is... temperature. It makes your washroom system vulnerable to temp. The range is 22 - 37 which is kinda meh if the rest of your base is not as sensitive (your farms are insulated from it or, like me, you live on stone hatches and BBQ).

If you have the same playstyle of mine, that is, rush stone hatches, skip mealwood/berry or get rid of them ASAP, which is another way to deal with early heat (that is just ignore it, my bases easily reach overheat temp for machinery made of lead, which I replace with gold ones and go on ignoring heat for other 50/100 cycles), then that overflow control system is a double edged sword. I've been bitten by it a couples of time. Pincha peppers (high temp is not their problem) can be used for the same purpose but they require phosphorite and dup labor/automation.

The new automation can help here. You can activate a warning based on the contents of a reservoir, should the plants stifle.

[KittenIsAGeek]

On 3/23/2020 at 10:53 PM, Noahisnothere said:

I have two liquid reservoirs used to store germ filled water, used for plants, machines, cleaning stations etc. And I wanna know a good place to store this water before the second liquid reservoir fills up and becomes a problem with it backing up[...].

One method I've been using lately is to put a shutoff valve on the reservoir, then set the automation of the reservoir so that it turns the shutoff green when nearly full and stays that way until it reaches whatever I've set the minimum to.  The valve opens up to a pipe that feeds polluted water to some thimble reeds.  This feed is a priority line over whatever other polluted water I have feeding those reeds.  

This way, if I need some polluted water for a task that doesn't require it to be clean (say, coolant for an aquatuner), there's whatever I set the reservoir's minimum threshold to available.

For example, if I set the sliders to 100% max, 75% minimum, then there will always be at least 75% of 5t or 3750kg of polluted water for other things.

[Neotuck]

2 hours ago, TheMule said:

Thimble reeds as overflow system are great! The only thing you need to be careful about is... temperature.

Have you tried using insulated pipes for the bathroom loop? 

In the pictures above I use insulated pipes made with igneous rock. 

I haven't had any temp issues yet

[TheMule]

12 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

Have you tried using insulated pipes for the bathroom loop? 

In the pictures above I use insulated pipes made with igneous rock. 

I haven't had any temp issues yet

The plant stifles if the base is too hot. It's not the water, it's a closed loop, so it doesn't heat up much.

The rest of the base can easily reach 50C. That's the way I play, I don't care about heat because nothing I use is heat sensitive.

I do use a thimble reed as overflow system but I have to remember it's the first thing that breaks in my base.  So early on is ok, but as some point I have to find a replacement. Usually for I build a couple of reservoirs. Later, much much later, when I finally decide to build a cooling loop, I have a few tons of germy polluted water which is the perfect coolant. 

[TheMule]

2 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said:

One method I've been using lately is to put a shutoff valve on the reservoir, then set the automation of the reservoir so that it turns the shutoff green when nearly full and stays that way until it reaches whatever I've set the minimum to.  The valve opens up to a pipe that feeds polluted water to some thimble reeds.  This feed is a priority line over whatever other polluted water I have feeding those reeds.  

This way, if I need some polluted water for a task that doesn't require it to be clean (say, coolant for an aquatuner), there's whatever I set the reservoir's minimum threshold to available.

For example, if I set the sliders to 100% max, 75% minimum, then there will always be at least 75% of 5t or 3750kg of polluted water for other things.

Exactly what I'd do. Now the washroom loop is pre update and I haven't changed it yet, but that's the plan.

[psusi]

On 3/24/2020 at 3:54 AM, Xenotrix said:

Just deconstruct liquid reservoir after filled. Bottle with 5 ton of polluted water dropped on floor. Then rebuild liquid reservoir on same place. You can repeat this action and store infinite any liquid in bottle.

Yes, but then at some point you have to have dupes carry 200kg at a time to a bottle emptier, then spend power on a pump to get it back into a pipe.

 

Stick the first reservoir in a chlorine room with a valve limiting the output to 1 or 2 kg/s, then use a germ sensor to send water with > 0 germs back to that reservoir, and otherwise let the germ free water go to the water sieve to be cleaned and recycled back through the bathrooms, and whatever excess overflow and be dumped into your main fresh water storage pool.

[Neotuck]

7 hours ago, TheMule said:

The rest of the base can easily reach 50C. That's the way I play, I don't care about heat because nothing I use is heat sensitive.

ah, I keep my base at 30C I like to decorate with flowerpots so I try to keep everything cool

[suicide commando]

FYI, the biggest reason why Thimble reed is so good is that aside from a nice and forgiving temp range, it ONLY uses pWater. That means that it won't consume dirt/phosphorite/fertiliser all the time, which other plants would do, while not getting enough pWater so would most of the time be wilted and their growth halted. ( Which in this case is fine, because you're not really using the plant to grow stuff, but to get rid of that excess pWater )