Tonyroid Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 There are lots of approaches to the early game but there's one key principle that will keep you out of trouble. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109006-how-to-keep-your-new-base-alive/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma Cypher Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Thanks for posting the video! It's funny -- we have exactly opposite play styles regarding toilets and terrariums; I make toilets as soon as possible because toilets generate 11.7 kg of PW for every 5 kg of clean water, all of which can be consumed by reed plants (for suits and canvas) until you are ready for a proper sanitation loop, and I figure turning all that polluted dirt from the outhouses into regular dirt with a compost pile generates a fair amount of heat and takes dupe time. And I keep terrariums (automated as shown below) pretty much forever (cycle 250 on current game) because I'm a @Neotuck fan boy and he says it's good Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109006-how-to-keep-your-new-base-alive/#findComment-1227635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Sigma Cypher said: ... And I keep terrariums (automated as shown below) pretty much forever (cycle 250 on current game) because I'm a @Neotuck fan boy and he says it's good That terranium thing feels exploity to me. Exploiting a game mechanic of PW bottles making oxygen and taking it to a scale probably not envisioned by klei. Yes, they could fix it and lets not debate exploit vs game mechanic. it is sandbox and people are free to choose. Maybe I just try to avoid these easy mode things to up the difficulty. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109006-how-to-keep-your-new-base-alive/#findComment-1227677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wronny Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, chemie said: Exploiting a game mechanic of PW bottles making oxygen Very strange bottles indeed. Offgas while sitting on the floor, but don't spill their contents when dropped. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109006-how-to-keep-your-new-base-alive/#findComment-1227681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
natanstarke Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Well i really dont see an exploit there, lots of things ofgass something even polluted dirt in bathrooms. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109006-how-to-keep-your-new-base-alive/#findComment-1227682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, natanstarke said: Well i really dont see an exploit there, lots of things ofgass something even polluted dirt in bathrooms. It should be capped. you can easily create huge PW bottles from reservoirs and get infinite oxygen. You can really do that with polluted dirt. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109006-how-to-keep-your-new-base-alive/#findComment-1227683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
natanstarke Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, chemie said: It should be capped. you can easily create huge PW bottles from reservoirs and get infinite oxygen. You can really do that with polluted dirt. True the scale is far bigger but super dupe intensive too in a meta where dupe time is disappering. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109006-how-to-keep-your-new-base-alive/#findComment-1227687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, natanstarke said: True the scale is far bigger but super dupe intensive too in a meta where dupe time is disappering. 5000kg PW bottles is not DUP intensive, just one construct and deconstruct Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109006-how-to-keep-your-new-base-alive/#findComment-1227690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrybovine Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I don't feel PW offgasing is an exploit. There is loss of mass when PO is converted to Oxygen by the deoderizers (only 90% mass is kept). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109006-how-to-keep-your-new-base-alive/#findComment-1227691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
natanstarke Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, chemie said: 5000kg PW bottles is not DUP intensive, just one construct and deconstruct I do not construct and deconstruct it i use them and then dupes remove the water manually from the plant. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109006-how-to-keep-your-new-base-alive/#findComment-1227699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, natanstarke said: I do not construct and deconstruct it i use them and then dupes remove the water manually from the plant. Chemie was talking about building, filling, and deconstructing liquid reservoirs as an alternative to terrariums. Like you, I personally don't feel that terrariums are all that dupes labor intensive once the pressure is up, but to each their own. The only reason I'm not using terrariums this game is that I need the heat from the electrolizers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109006-how-to-keep-your-new-base-alive/#findComment-1227755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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