miauly Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 By the looks of it, we have a new dirt route? Spoiler If my calculations are correct: Ethanol building converts 750 g/s of lumber into: ~502g ethanol ~185g PD ~62g CO2 (rounded, not sure why actual numbers are so weird? is it intended?) To grow 300kg of lumber, a plant needs: 4.5 cycles 35 kg PW per cycle 1 kg of Phosphorite per cycle Which gets us to ~462 kg dirt from 157.5 kg PW (per one plant full grown). Seems nice unless there's a mistake in my calculations above. What do you think? PS. Would anyone be so kind to share numbers on the new oxygen plant, can't find them in game? PPS. Edit for pips: tooltip says they eat 0.3 kg lumber per cycle and excrete 75% so 225g of dirt per cycle. Not sure if they eat more when domesticated, also not sure if they eat from the plant directly or feed from the feeder? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
goboking Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 One of the new critters (the pip) eats lumber and converts it directly to dirt. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryce325 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Oxyferns are in some starting biomes and take 156.3mg/s CO2 and give 7.8g/s O2 wild and 4x that if domestic. Also pips are a great source of dirt. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkin Coaled Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 oxyfern domestic 625mg/s co2 consumed, 31.3g/s o2 produced. pretty sure it's actually 31.25g/s, rounded up for display purposes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qda Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 This is exactly the 50/1 ratio of a dupe's O2 inhaled/CO2 exhaled. I can't verify it right now, but that means that 13 wild oxyfern is a free, infinite source of oxygen for a single dupe, is that right ? Maybe those numbers need some tweaking, or else oxygen will actually be included with the release which means false advertising, lawsuit, bankruptcy, all sorts of non cool things I'd prefer not to see ! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It is 12.8 (so 13) ferns / dupe wild, or a little over 3 if they're planted. The bigger problem, honestly, is that these will wilt if you don't have enough CO2 to keep them going. I haven't fully tested with them yet but so far my starter world play sees them 'dead' half the time. That might be from the oxylite though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qda Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 In a proper setup, where they're planted in a kind of CO2 sink, that just means a fluctuating O2 pressure, but is viable nonetheless Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Absolutely viable, but it's not going to be simple. You'll need to gravity feed the CO2 downward and use ventilation systems to push the O2 upwards to keep the flow going. This is different than, for example, Terrariums. The CO2 clean up is just a bonus, but the O2 is coming either way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qda Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Now I really want to try a sealed base living of wild oxyfern for oxygen, and dreckos fed on balm lilies for meat and wheezeworts fed on phosphorite from dreckos for cooling. Seems pretty simple to setup in like 50 cycles, and could potentially live forever. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryce325 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Good luck getting that many oxyfern, you can not farm more than you start with besides maybe the printing pod. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qda Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I haven't even thought about that, but we can't harvest more of them. Guess it's time to find a seed duplication bug. Or maybe they aren't exclusive to the starting biome ? We may harvest some from space ? In any case, not doable that easily ! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, qda said: Guess it's time to find a seed duplication bug. Challenge accepted. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qda Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 22 hours ago, mathmanican said: Challenge accepted. Keep unearthing the deep, dark secrets of ONI, and you will be the one facing trial ! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108011-new-dirt-route/#findComment-1215964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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