Oni Noob Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Can heat escape when you use Heavy conductive Joint in the wall? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 yes To stop all heat transfer, you need to create a vacuum between two joints sealed with insulated tiles. You will be wanting to use this method if you have a temperature critical area that you have to pass power to from a very hot/cold area. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1176871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Oni Noob said: Can heat escape when you use Heavy conductive Joint in the wall? I use this method when I need to prevent heat from traveling through a heavy conductive joint. The center is a vacuum. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1176881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, KittenIsAGeek said: I use this method when I need to prevent heat from traveling through a heavy conductive joint. The center is a vacuum. How do you make the center a vacuum in survival? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1176883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovf Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 If you make the centre one tile longer, you can put a mini-pump in there. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1176885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 You can also dig it out using the corner digging method by filling the area completely then dig out from a corner tile. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1176886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 It takes some micro-managing, but basically you leave sandstone tiles in the center, then diagonally dig them. And you HAVE to start with diggable tiles. Something like this: Spoiler Dig out corners and build: Corner walk build... Continue... and.... Success!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1176890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, KittenIsAGeek said: And you HAVE to start with diggable tiles. Actually, you don't. You can both build and deconstruct tiles diagonally (though it seems easier from the top for some reason...). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1176898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyer Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I do think that the middle 2 tiles do have to be dig-able for this to actually work since you get the below error if you try to build joint plates beside existing tiles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1176919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Well, I know you used to be able to build them from nothing. 4 minutes ago, Xyer said: I do think that the middle 2 tiles do have to be dig-able for this to actually work since you get the below error if you try to build joint plates beside existing tiles. What happens when you build the Joint Plate first, and try to build a block over one of the connectors? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1176920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyer Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, PhailRaptor said: Well, I know you used to be able to build them from nothing. What happens when you build the Joint Plate first, and try to build a block over one of the connectors? Also had the same error with the joint-plate already built. As you can clearly see, I do not have any actual wires built there yet. I believe this was a change documented in one of the recent patches iirc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1176925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 6 hours ago, PhailRaptor said: Well, I know you used to be able to build them from nothing. What happens when you build the Joint Plate first, and try to build a block over one of the connectors? You used to be able to, yes. And you can't build blocks over the connectors on heavi-watt plates anymore. It makes it really tricky to get the vacuum between them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1176986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: You used to be able to, yes. And you can't build blocks over the connectors on heavi-watt plates anymore. It makes it really tricky to get the vacuum between them. Does it mean the only way to make vacuum with that setup is making 2(or 3?) wide in the middle and adding the small pump Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Oni Noob said: Does it mean the only way to make vacuum with that setup is making 2(or 3?) wide in the middle and adding the small pump If you look at the example I posted, you can use an un-dug area. If you're building somewhere that is already dug out, then yes, you have to make it wide enough for a small pump. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 12 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: If you look at the example I posted, you can use an un-dug area. If you're building somewhere that is already dug out, then yes, you have to make it wide enough for a small pump. Sorry I cant use that my location for my power is already dug out already Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromiumboy Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Won't the heaviwatt cause the mini pump to overload? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, chromiumboy said: Won't the heaviwatt cause the mini pump to overload? How? You think there's a difference between a 60W load being on a wire can support loads of up to 1KW, 2KW, or 20KW respectively? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I had forgotten about that changes to the joint plate that make it unable to build in if the adjacent tile is a tile. Why don't you just fill the area with tiles, build a liquid U lock against the face of the tiles, then dig out the vacuum ready for your joint plate. This is how I've done it in the past as I have some stupid OCD that I don't like to lose that single stray piece of igneous rock in the cavity, the same igneous rock that is in infinite supply, I know, right, how crazy is that! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Craigjw said: I had forgotten about that changes to the joint plate that make it unable to build in if the adjacent tile is a tile. Why don't you just fill the area with tiles, build a liquid U lock against the face of the tiles, then dig out the vacuum ready for your joint plate. This is how I've done it in the past as I have some stupid OCD that I don't like to lose that single stray piece of igneous rock in the cavity, the same igneous rock that is in infinite supply, I know, right, how crazy is that! Just do the minipump solution. Once it's a vacuum the minipump will stop and no longer be active for the rest of the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 50 plastic isn't much to cry about either, so it probably a ton easier. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorsDux Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Its also easy to set a pump up to make the vacuum Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromiumboy Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Saturnus said: How? You think there's a difference between a 60W load being on a wire can support loads of up to 1KW, 2KW, or 20KW respectively? I could have swore that some low voltage devices got damaged if you hooked them up to heviwatt. Unable to check at the moment though Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Just now, chromiumboy said: I could have swore that some low voltage devices got damaged if you hooked them up to heviwatt. Unable to check at the moment though Nope. A wire is a wire. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Smedstad Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, chromiumboy said: I could have swore that some low voltage devices got damaged if you hooked them up to heviwatt. Unable to check at the moment though I can understand that. I’ve played games where hooking a low voltage device to a high voltage wire caused the device to explode. Oxygen Not Included doesn’t have that concept, though. It’s only total draw on a wire that matters, and “voltage” isn’t even a game concept, despite the presence of watts as a unit of measure. There are cases where hooking directly to a Heavi Watt wire is a problem, but they’re very much edge cases, and not common. For example, if you have a really large base, and you’ve got an elaborate distribution system where a Heavi Watt wire connects via 5 large transformers to another Heavi Watt wire, that wire is constantly carrying the full 20kw load. Adding any load at all to such a wire is inviting overload. But as I said, that’s a very unusual case, and it has nothing to do with a specific limitation on small devices like mini pumps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104771-qq-heavy-conductive-joint/#findComment-1177344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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