Warly in DST?

[Swanky Psammead]

Heard the news for the 2019 content updates. I am excited. Wortox will be an interesting addition to the DST cast.

If the other three new characters have not already been chosen, then I very much hope that Warly will be one of them. I believe he is by far the best-suited to DST of all the DLC characters who have not been added already; his perks and drawbacks are interesting (his portable crock pot would be incredibly useful to a team) but not to the point of being game-breaking.

[zergologist]

He would also need some balancing because he needs more recipes for his crockpot, as well as a recipe for said pot as well as a new, more balanced chef pouch.

[GiddyGuy]

I don't think they would add any Shipwrecked characters without adding the other three and since Wortox is one of the confirmed new characters that's gonna be added I don't think they're gonna add Warly sadly.

[zergologist]

Maybe the unimplemented characters would be implemented?

[Swanky Psammead]

27 minutes ago, zergologist said:

He would also need some balancing because he needs more recipes for his crockpot, as well as a recipe for said pot as well as a new, more balanced chef pouch.

Giving recipes for formerly uncraftable character-specific items like Abigail's Flower/Willow's Lighter has been a recurring theme but I am not sure it is strictly necessary in Warly's case. His crock pot could simply be an indestructible and uncraftable item that he can see highlighted on the map, like the Celestial Orb, or the Ancient Key with a Thulecite Medallion equipped; or it could be craftable, but unusable by non-Warlies due to the greater culinary skill it requires; or any number of other creative and elegant solutions to the potential problem of rampant portable crock pot exploit shenanigans by non-Warlies

[Goat Slice]

Ha. I wish.

Sw character bias warning

I agree with giddyguy, it's so unlikely and I'd rather have em all yet it's kinda unreasonable too, you have these 4 characters with existing art and personalities you could use and yet?

Nothing. That we know of. There's reasons I'm sure of and talked about before and we never know if for some awful reason they'll split the 4 up but... I'm just disappointed, partially my fault for caring too much about these characters but you know.

New characters are cool and all but I personally don't actually want em, not when we could've gotten the SW characters. Bold to say but I know some feel similarly. This is just my own personal thoughts though, Walani and Warly especially just mean a lot to me. Not to stir controversy but a little non-white representation goes a long way

Course I'll always sincerely wish they'd get more support, so I don't have to do some of the work for em! I'd love to see the devs actually talk about them and what's up one day, been saying that for years. They'll always have that potential, they'd get balance changes no doubt too, which would be exciting. I feel like in previous comments I've talked enough about the sw lads and Klei's treatment, especially during Hamlet, just kinda burnt out at this point so what's left to say? Darn.

[Donke60]

I'm confused

[Bluegeist]

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1 hour ago, CheeseNuggets101 said:

Ha. I wish.

Sw character bias warning

I agree with giddyguy, it's so unlikely and I'd rather have em all yet it's kinda unreasonable too, you have these 4 characters with existing art and personalities you could use and yet?

Nothing. That we know of. There's reasons I'm sure of and talked about before and we never know if for some awful reason they'll split the 4 up but... I'm just disappointed, partially my fault for caring too much about these characters but you know.

New characters are cool and all but I personally don't actually want em, not when we could've gotten the SW characters. Bold to say but I know some feel similarly. This is just my own personal thoughts though, Walani and Warly especially just mean a lot to me. Not to stir controversy but a little non-white representation goes a long way

Course I'll always sincerely wish they'd get more support, so I don't have to do some of the work for em! I'd love to see the devs actually talk about them and what's up one day, been saying that for years. They'll always have that potential, they'd get balance changes no doubt too, which would be exciting. I feel like in previous comments I've talked enough about the sw lads and Klei's treatment, especially during Hamlet, just kinda burnt out at this point so what's left to say? Darn.

 

I'm with you on this. The thing that bothers me the most about their exclusion is that their narratives are not moving forward with the "main cast". What if the 12 DST characters end up making it out of the Constant, as part of a possible end game? With the SW crew stuck in DS, it feels like they are being left behind. I don't want that!! I want all of them to be happy and have fun together!! And (most importantly) wear cool outfits!!!! I'd rather play as Walani over a demon

I will say though, when it comes to this new character thing, I'd rather the SW crew not be the ones to cost like 6.99 to get.

[zergologist]

maybe the hamlet crew and shipwrecked crew could come at a possible later time

[Swanky Psammead]

14 hours ago, CheeseNuggets101 said:

Not to stir controversy but a little non-white representation goes a long way

I'm all for stirring a moderate amount of controversy about this, tbh--it's one of my reasons for wanting Warly too. Don't Starve has always been full of post-colonial subtext, it's literally about people traveling to a new world (voluntarily or otherwise), making a life there at the expense of the natives, looting their ancient ruins, and generally screwing everything up with their wacky Burtonesque hijinks. Klei's been very self-aware about this from the beginning, that's why so many of the character quotes are guilt-tripping you about it : P

And yeah, obviously that kind of commentary is less interesting when it excludes POC. My headcanon has always been that Webber was a black Liverpudlian kid before he got all spider'd up. I would campaign for the inclusion of Walani but I think gameplaywise she adds less to DST than Warly does because a lot of her mechanics are very Shipwrecked-specific and aren't as intuitively interesting to me in a multiplayer setting. Definitely hopeful for her too though.

[maradyne]

On 1/22/2019 at 5:29 PM, Swanky Psammead said:

Giving recipes for formerly uncraftable character-specific items like Abigail's Flower/Willow's Lighter has been a recurring theme but I am not sure it is strictly necessary in Warly's case. His crock pot could simply be an indestructible and uncraftable item that he can see highlighted on the map, like the Celestial Orb, or the Ancient Key with a Thulecite Medallion equipped; or it could be craftable, but unusable by non-Warlies due to the greater culinary skill it requires; or any number of other creative and elegant solutions to the potential problem of rampant portable crock pot exploit shenanigans by non-Warlies

Basically treat his pot and pouch both like Lucy and it'd be fine. Refusal by other characters to pick them up with an appropriate quote.

 

I can't say I have all that much attachment to Warly, but he'd be a perfect fit for DST. A dedicated cook to go along with Wicker on the base care team, maybe even as an alternative if his food gives perks? Why not?
Add onto that the character updates coming, and maybe some synergy could be worked in.

There was even kind of a tease for Warly in the Gorge; Mumsy's line  "Another of your kind passed through here once.".
With how Don't Starve's Faustian Bargains work, to me that screams Warly being the one that went through the Gorge. Being taken away to a place where his culinary vision would be appreciated...IE, being taken to the swamp plane and teaching goat people the art of fine dining so they can appease The Great DWorm In The Sky and not get turned into fish monsters.
Then he successfully escapes...by following the Merms and diving into the ocean. Thus we get, of all things, an experienced chef in the middle of the sea...Shipwrecked.

Then the Gorge happens, we reconnect the portal, and Mumsy implies that she and the others will follow through it; meaning that it seems possible to travel between there and the mainland with that portal.
And the whole thing links together.

 

While the other Shipwrecked characters might have some trouble away from the sea (though Our Great Monkey Overlord would be good with Splumonkeys too, and a great companion for the cast), Warly makes too much sense not to add. Whether he's in these next few characters addons or a later addition, he'd be perfect. I really hope he's among the next few.