Iriswaters Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Pretty simple notion, can't figure how to do it right. Want pipe up sense incoming packet, determine something about it, and send it one way or another depending on the value. Should be as easy as putting a gauge on the thing, and a pair of shutoff valves, with one set to 'not'. This does not work. Many packets get through that shouldn't. Pipes explode. Dupes cry. Great wailing and gnashing of teeth commences. Especially irksome when in the core of a searing hot construct of some kind. Which is where such a thing is most useful.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroturtle Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 When using sensors to control packet flow, neither output path can become blocked or you'll have issues. You can overcome this with proper bridging, or by adding sensors before or after to stop flow in the event that the system backs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 can be done with one valve if you can avoid both paths ever blocking. just at the zero power gas filter using one valve I stead of the regulator filter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Iriswaters said: Pipes explode. Dupes cry. Great wailing and gnashing of teeth commences. This is standard dupe behaviour, nothing out of the ordinary here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixenzo Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 A loop pipe filter will alleviate the problem for the cost of another sensor + shutoff set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Here's a simple setup I use and it works as long as pipes don't back up or power goes out Note that the bridge is important because any packet that you don't want to pass though the shut-off will bounce back when it turns back on. This is because the shut-off will be the closest pipe outlet, a bridge prevents that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iriswaters Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 Ok, that last maybe will solve the issue. In these heat based loops, there is usually a 'safe'(but useless) direction, away from the tuner. So long as this is certain to always only ever fail(when it fails) in the direction of the bridge, that should be fine. I have been running something like that last image, only replace the bridge with another shutoff valve, hooked to the same sensor, but through a NOT switch. It doesn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 The problem with using two shut-offs is that when I shut off is OFF it hold one packet inside it that will hold on to it till it gets on again That packet will be in the way when it is turned on and thus will pause for a split second before falling through but that Split Second is all it takes to mess up the build as the other gate will turn back on again pulling the wrong packet down the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroturtle Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 For aquatuners, I've had a lot better luck hooking the automation directly to the tuner and not even including a valve. Then you put the inlet of the bridge next to the inlet of the aquatuner and connect the outlet from the tuner to the outlet of the bridge. Simple and effective (though you still don't want lines to back up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 the only change I should have done was high pressure vents Data Spacestation.sav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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