DaveSatx Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I'm looking at you refinery... --- Before I built my refinery loops I wondered how sour gas settles. I found some guesses that it was just above carbon dioxide.. that was close. After a few metal refinery accidents I have my answer lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98032-see-how-sour-gas-stratifies/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurkinglurker Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Where does it stand with regards to Oxygen thou? Below it? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98032-see-how-sour-gas-stratifies/#findComment-1110186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azunai333 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, lurkinglurker said: Where does it stand with regards to Oxygen thou? Below it? Yes. See this image: These are the gases the from top to bottom: Hydrogen Oxygen/PO2 (they seem just to mix) Natural Gas Steam (must be above 100 °C or else it will condence to water) Sour Gas Phosphorus (must be above 280.5 °C or else it will condence into it's liquid form) Chlorine Carbon Dioxide Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98032-see-how-sour-gas-stratifies/#findComment-1110218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 8 hours ago, DaveSatx said: After a few metal refinery accidents I have my answer lol I know this might be a bit late, but heres a simple fix for avoiding overcooking your coolant Spoiler In these pics i'm making steel, and have my pipe sensor set to "above 240" before the liquid shut off - you can go to 260ish, but I had plenty of oil so erred to the side of caution The sensor below the pipe thermo sensor is an element sensor that checks for whatever liquid you're using as a coolant - mine was oil, so it's set to crude oil on a NOT gate. All this does is disables the refinery temporarily whilst the exit pipe has fluid in it. Once this pipe clears (either it's been drained off to my oil refineries, or recycled back for more steel making) the refinery toggles back on and can be used again. Above I have a reservoir where my hot oil can buffer - this is essential if you have lazy slacker dupes like Nails here... Make sure you always process your output oil at a higher priority and you'll never have problems again. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98032-see-how-sour-gas-stratifies/#findComment-1110256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSatx Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Lifegrow said: I know this might be a bit late, but heres a simple fix for avoiding overcooking your coolant Reveal hidden contents In these pics i'm making steel, and have my pipe sensor set to "above 240" before the liquid shut off - you can go to 260ish, but I had plenty of oil so erred to the side of caution The sensor below the pipe thermo sensor is an element sensor that checks for whatever liquid you're using as a coolant - mine was oil, so it's set to crude oil on a NOT gate. All this does is disables the refinery temporarily whilst the exit pipe has fluid in it. Once this pipe clears (either it's been drained off to my oil refineries, or recycled back for more steel making) the refinery toggles back on and can be used again. Above I have a reservoir where my hot oil can buffer - this is essential if you have lazy slacker dupes like Nails here... Make sure you always process your output oil at a higher priority and you'll never have problems again. thanks for the info; my brain won't process that much right now, I'll have a better look in the morning when i can think. i use automation and a temp sensor but it really helps to have it set correctly when setting a temp threshold... oops. as it was never below 250 it kept looping endlessly til it reached something like 1000F. LOL I kept missing what was wrong so it happened again. hehe. 3 hours ago, Azunai333 said: Yes. See this image: [redacted] These are the gases the from top to bottom: Hydrogen Oxygen/PO2 (they seem just to mix) Natural Gas Steam (must be above 100 °C or else it will condence to water) Sour Gas Phosphorus (must be above 280.5 °C or else it will condence into it's liquid form) Chlorine Carbon Dioxide An excellent illustration - thank you, wish i'd found it when i looked. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98032-see-how-sour-gas-stratifies/#findComment-1110305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Personally I just used Magma as my coolant. Do pumps still pick up from tiles they're not actually touching? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98032-see-how-sour-gas-stratifies/#findComment-1110463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 15 hours ago, Yunru said: Personally I just used Magma as my coolant. Do pumps still pick up from tiles they're not actually touching? The disparity between Pump detection and area of effect has not been changed in any way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98032-see-how-sour-gas-stratifies/#findComment-1111041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Mental note.. when I get home, go to debug mode, heat up more things to make a better list of gases. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98032-see-how-sour-gas-stratifies/#findComment-1111089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredhp Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 7 hours ago, suicide commando said: Mental note.. when I get home, go to debug mode, heat up more things to make a better list of gases. Please, test sulphur too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98032-see-how-sour-gas-stratifies/#findComment-1111270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Right.. no pretty picture but hre's a list of various gases sorted by their density: Hydrogen Oxygen/PO2 (they seem just to mix) Natural Gas Steam Sour Gas Sulfur Phosphorus Chlorine Carbon Dioxide Rock Gas ( gaseous form of any 'rock' type substance, dirt, sand, etc. ) Copper Super Coolant Gold Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98032-see-how-sour-gas-stratifies/#findComment-1111424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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