psusi Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 So I built some bunker doors, a solar panel, 3 space scanners, and some batteries underneath. The scanner says it's quality is only 5% due to interference from nearby heavy machinery. How does that work? Also I manually clicked unlock on the bunker doors and waited forever for them to open with no power, then the scanner went off, activated the automation signal, and the doors went back to the locked state and started closing. The scanners lost power and the automation signal shut off, but the doors remain locked. How are they supposed to open again after the shower? It looks like you have to send a dupe to manually open it again. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 pic please so we can see what you are working with Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 Ok, this is really stupid. Just got a scanner going off saying meteors are incoming and my door that was still closed is now opening. So the automation signal to a bunker door being active simply toggles its state, I guess only after it has finished fully opening or closing. WTF? Ok, even weirder: I disabled the scanner and that cutt the automation signal and the doors closed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Ok a few things 1) Scanners work best then they are far away from other machines and each other, space them out at least 10 tiles apart 2) Bunkers open when receiving an ON automation signal, scanners send out an ON signal when detecting meteors so you'll need a NOT gate to close the bunkers 3) Transformers and batteries will overheat quickly in a vacuum, build them in their own environment to keep them cool Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanemadden Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Slap a Not gate in between your scanners and doors instead of directly connecting their automation wire - you want to reverse the signal from your scanners for the doors' state. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Neotuck said: 3) Transformers and batteries will overheat quickly in a vacuum, build them in their own environment to keep them cool How about just pouring a little cold water on the floor? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, psusi said: How about just pouring a little cold water on the floor? do you have cold water to spare? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: do you have cold water to spare? How much is it going to take? Water has a high heat capacity so a few kgs should be able to keep it cool for quite some time no? Also can you build the scanner on glass tiles then have a solar panel 10 tiles below? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, psusi said: How much is it going to take? Water has a high heat capacity so a few kgs should be able to keep it cool for quite some time no? you'll still have to build an environment for it, liquids and gases vent away in space 3 minutes ago, psusi said: Also can you build the scanner on glass tiles then have a solar panel 10 tiles below? yes, mesh tiles work too as for some reason surface light passes though them Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, psusi said: How much is it going to take? Water has a high heat capacity so a few kgs should be able to keep it cool for quite some time no? Liquids disappear in space similar to gasses so you will have to continuosly drip water there. 3 minutes ago, psusi said: Also can you build the scanner on glass tiles then have a solar panel 10 tiles below? That will work just fine. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Neotuck said: yes, mesh tiles work too as for some reason surface light passes though them Are you sure about that? I thought they removed that a while ago. We had to redo our modular farms and everything. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, Zarquan said: Are you sure about that? I thought they removed that a while ago. We had to redo our modular farms and everything. yes mesh will block light from printing pods, lamps, ceiling lights, and shine bugs. but NOT surface light Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Neotuck said: you'll still have to build an environment for it, liquids and gases vent away in space Gasses have to be sealed in on all sides; liquids will sit on the floor so only that one tile needs background. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 minute ago, psusi said: Gasses have to be sealed in on all sides; liquids will sit on the floor so only that one tile needs background. be sure to have the liquid vent on the floor then, liquids also get sucked into space as it falls Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 55 minutes ago, Neotuck said: 59 minutes ago, psusi said: How much is it going to take? Water has a high heat capacity so a few kgs should be able to keep it cool for quite some time no? you'll still have to build an environment for it, liquids and gases vent away in space Not exactly. You just need a row of Drywall in the tiles the puddle is to occupy. Once the puddle is established, simply cool it from underneath, like Radiant Pipes inside the floor tile. The puddle will then be a transfer medium between the floor tile and whatever equipment is placed there. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just now, PhailRaptor said: Not exactly. You just need a row of Drywall in the tiles the puddle is to occupy. Once the puddle is established, simply cool it from underneath, like Radiant Pipes inside the floor tile. The puddle will then be a transfer medium between the floor tile and whatever equipment is placed there. ok just don't try to do this on glass with solar panels underneath Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Neotuck said: ok just don't try to do this on glass with solar panels underneath Why not? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just now, psusi said: Why not? Water and Glass will both reduce light penetration, limiting the max output of your Panels. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just now, psusi said: Why not? light doesn't travel though liquids well Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Neotuck said: light doesn't travel though liquids well Ohh. I guess I'll have to keep the batteries under the solar without scanners above them. Or does the solar need cooling too? And will radiant pipes not exchange heat with the machines without gas or liquid? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, psusi said: Or does the solar need cooling too? nope panels don't generate heat, you got the right idea about placing batteries underneath them the only reason I keep my solar panels cool is I'm transferring heat though them to keep my robo-miners, sweepers, and loaders cool. But that's not necessary, a radiant pipe with coolant in the glass can work too Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Why crappy batteries instead of smart batteries? And don't they also exchange heat with the tile they are sitting on, so if you cool that with a pipe... then what do you need gas or liquid for? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, psusi said: Why crappy batteries instead of smart batteries? when dealing with solar panels you need to go for max storage capacity 13 minutes ago, psusi said: And don't they also exchange heat with the tile they are sitting on no batteries, and other machines are perfectly insulated in a vacuum, they only exchange heat with gas, liquids, or solids (when entombed) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1108408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat1188 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Neotuck, why did you build the tiles in between the rows of batteries out of bunker tiles? You must have lots of steel. Also, I assume you have a row of bunker doors above the robo miners, out of the picture? Are there any good tutorials around for solar power and controlling the opening of the bunker doors with the space scanner? I'm in space for the first time, previously when I played this game there was no space, and the top was sealed off. Thanks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1113287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 hours ago, madcat1188 said: Neotuck, why did you build the tiles in between the rows of batteries out of bunker tiles? You must have lots of steel. Also, I assume you have a row of bunker doors above the robo miners, out of the picture? Are there any good tutorials around for solar power and controlling the opening of the bunker doors with the space scanner? I'm in space for the first time, previously when I played this game there was no space, and the top was sealed off. Thanks. Theres no reason to use bunkertiles. But because its built on debug/sandbox its For aesthetics. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97923-space-scanner-quality/#findComment-1113348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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