TunderLock Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 So I had a look at the utilization of my old 4670k while playing and all four cores are loaded pretty evenly. Evidently the klei team has done a good job giving each of the gas/liquid/germ/temp/etc systems a different thread. I'm wondering how well the game threads? Has anyone got print screens of 8 thread utilisation? 16 threads? more? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Seems to be only 4 cores, unfortunately, at least on my FX8350. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/#findComment-1079787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 It appears to only be single-threaded. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/#findComment-1079789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 It's single thread only. Nothing happening at all on the 3 other cores it supposedly runs on. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/#findComment-1079790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 The 'equal distribution' across your cores is probably the CPU alternating cores to even out the heat distribution. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/#findComment-1079795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Its a single core game like Warthunder & City Skylines. People get confused looking at the windows task manager seeing activity on all cores as they play ONI, thats down to how stuff is displayed in the taskmanager. If one has 4 cores, 4 core load will show as 20-30% running the game under full load - And not as 100% on a multicore cpu with a hypothetical other game allocating all cores under full game load. In reality the single core ONI is taking says 20-30% in the windows taskamanger on a 4 core cpu, under example load at 1 FPS on a mega map running at full calculation drain. ONI is not able to take more than 1 core. If that cpu core is fully utilized the frame rate starts to drop and the single core is maxed out. If you have an turbo boost cpu and the cpu is cold and you are dropping down to 20,10 or 1 FPS in ONI, you will see in the task manager that Intel & Amd is running at max possible GHz on that single core in Turbo Boost Mode ( if supported ), which ONI is allocating. CPU`s which dont support Turbo Boost on a single core are a bad choice to play this game. If a cpu has no turbo boost function for a single core, try to play on a cpu which has a high default GHz base clock. Large level 1,2 &3 cpu cache also keeps the games fps and game speed high. CPU`s with 5 - 20 Megabyte Level 3 cache can run the game well. The developers have changed the map size down to 1/4 in the past, to cater for the average players cpu load on a single core. I lovely Amd, but as their Die designs of cores/cache often share resource in core pairs, they do not perform as well in the same price league with Intel on single core threading. More details on what cpus work well with the game is in the forum thread below...The passmark benchmark link can also be found there: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/#findComment-1079798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I just saw this video of the guy launching lots of rockets at once, at something like 13:00 minutes: - The guy shows the windows taskmanager with 11 cpu`s - Each cpu graph shows 20% load ( ingnore the text "100%" above the green moving graphs ) - The "Total cpu" load graph shows 20% load on the green scale ( ingnore the text "100%" above the green moving graphs ) - His game runs at 2 FPS ( fps counter on top left ). His game would run faster if he ran ONI on an intel 4 core like the i7 7700k with high base rate & high single core turbo boost capability. No offence, but either he has never thought about ONI frame rate speed or he just doesnt care what he is running the game on. Great movie though Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/#findComment-1080427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Brothgar is what we call a perennial n00b. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/#findComment-1080430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Game is single core game, and speed of cpu is not the only thing that matters. You also have to take into account IPC (instructions per clock). Even though amd has the fastest cpu's usually, and usually also the most cores, see Ryzen etc. , Intel still is king what goes IPC, and that is what really matters.. Intels 3.5ghz can beat AMD 5ghz cpu because of that reason. This is why games usually also run better on intel. AMD is good for multi threaded stuff like rendering, photoshop etc etc. This is the lay of the lands, it may change in the next 5 years now where ryzen is up.. who knows. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/#findComment-1080436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phod Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Brothgar is awesome, I highly recommend his ONI videos. I look forward to watching them on my lunch breaks. Some stuff he does is just silly, but a lot of it is well thought out, and graphed to compare different results with different systems. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/#findComment-1080461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 12:04 AM, KittenIsAGeek said: The 'equal distribution' across your cores is probably the CPU alternating cores to even out the heat distribution. Yes, possible. And the other 4 cores on an FX8350 get sent to sleep by Windows 7 until there is need for them. So yes, may well be single-thread. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/#findComment-1080471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 FYI Communicating with Brothgar, it should be fine to share the PC system details. Here is the system the oni rocket movie was recorded on: Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.30GHz Socket: LGA2011-v3 Clockspeed: 3.3 GHz Turbo Speed: 3.6 GHz Passmark score of around 2000 at single core threading: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html A current good intel cpu with large level 1,2&3 cache runs on turbo mode with 5 GHz, which gives 38% more speed in comparison. Overclocked to stable 6 GHz in turbo mode the increase is 66%. There is quite a lot of single core dependent games around ( oni, warthunder, city skylines etc. ). Socket LGA2011 - A good intel cpu, overclocked and running stable at 6 Ghz, with the fastest ddr4 ram should yield an FPS speed improvement of around 80-100% in comparison with the system. Of course, as ONI drops down to a few FPS it probably doesnt make sense anyway haha ! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/95053-how-well-does-oni-multithread/#findComment-1080620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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