ImpalerWrG Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 This is a simple concept for a door which is a Star-Trek style glowing force field, impermeable to all gasses, but which allows unobstructed Dupe movement right through it without any opening/closing delay. Functionally this will be much like an petroleum stacked liquid airlock BUT with less tediousness, a proper place in the tech tree and most importantly balanced due to it's power consumption which I expect to be in the range of 100 to 300 W. The structure would actually be a 1x1 directional 'emitter' which requires a mate pointing at it and the force field is created between them, power consumption likely scaling for longer distances. Solid objects, dupes and liquids pass through, unless it is deactivated by control wire then it becomes impassable to everything and its power consumption would at least double. To actually turn it off you need to cut power to it and then the field will drop. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 100w/cell make it "modular" so that if we want to build hangar bays with blast doors and energy shields soooo coool Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1047947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuch Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Not that it means much, but flavor wise it does seem a bit higher sc fi tech compared to most of the thing you see researched by your duplicants . Maybe it could be a tech you recuperate in ruins similar to the thermo nullifier rathe than researched ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1047954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArunPrasath Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Force fields by default allow light to pass through. If kept at the surface biome, it'll allow unfettered solar power generation. So can be used instead of bunker doors. Of course ... if it consumes 100-200W per cell it'll nerf solar generation completely But Force Field door will be an instant open and instant close door. Will help duplicant movement considerably. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1048244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 10 hours ago, Smuch said: Not that it means much, but flavor wise it does seem a bit higher sc fi tech compared to most of the thing you see researched by your duplicants . Maybe it could be a tech you recuperate in ruins similar to the thermo nullifier rathe than researched ? We have an AETN, A printing pod. We only start on the low end. Look at their tools. I am sure they have spaceship technology etc as well Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1048245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuch Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 5 hours ago, BlueLance said: We have an AETN, A printing pod. We only start on the low end. Look at their tools. I am sure they have spaceship technology etc as well The AETN is found in the ruins, hence why I suggested that somethign as advnced as a foce field be found there as well As for thetols, ike the ods it's somthing that is given to the duplcants from the start, no that the duplicant devellop themselves. Also , speaking of the printing pod, well... looking a the ,Data mining thread and all the usused (yet ?) art asets they recently uncovered well... Spoiler Awfully looks like a monitor you'd find in the ruins, don't you think ? So possibly not unrelated. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1048505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 A force field wont need to consume power all the time. You need energy to build the field. Once established and stabilized its done. The energy is in place. The energy needed to keep it is minimal. (its limited to the circuits resistance). When something hits the field, it consumes energy to restabilize. As long as its left alone, it would consume just a few watts of energy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1048769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpalerWrG Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 That's not how most force fields in sci-fi work, nor would it be well balanced. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1048824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I would assume that a forcefield requires a constant supply to run. as it is stopping air and fluids at all times, the only thing that can pass is dupes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1048937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 3 hours ago, BlueLance said: I would assume that a forcefield requires a constant supply to run. as it is stopping air and fluids at all times, the only thing that can pass is dupes. Thats what i said... in vacuum, its fine. When air or liquid (or critters) hit it > Power consumption. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1049037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambaire Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Yes, please. It's hilarious that the best airlock available and the only one I use is a liquid filled one with exosuits. edit: have the alt-mode be impervious to liquids but still allow dupes to pass through. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1049695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ambaire said: Yes, please. It's hilarious that the best airlock available and the only one I use is a liquid filled one with exosuits. edit: have the alt-mode be impervious to liquids but still allow dupes to pass through. You should look at CO2 locks. They can keep two atmospheres completely separate without having exosuits. But you can't make a vacuum with it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1049705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenixix Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I would like a door that do not let gases and water go through (also an insulator?). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1049721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Fenixix said: I would like a door that do not let gases and water go through (also an insulator?). Forcefield should do that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1049918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 On 6/13/2018 at 9:37 PM, ImpalerWrG said: That's not how most force fields in sci-fi work, nor would it be well balanced. In Star Trek, they have forcefields that keep the oxygen in, but shuttles can still fly out. I think this is more due to the fact that they have forcefields that they can open just a part of, so they just make a hole that barely fits the shuttle. Either that, or it's like a bubble soap covered object going through a bubble soap wall. It just goes through without breaching it. I don't know how Star Trek force fields work. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1050259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpalerWrG Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 Yes that ability for the shuttle to go through without letting out the air is what I was looking for. I believe the technobabble is that the shuttle has to push with enough force to get through, but air pressure is insufficient to get through. Normally people can't go through Trek force fields, but this is where I depart for the sake of game play.. I'm saying that all solids and liquids pass through, but gasses up to any pressure are held in. This lets you do many interesting things like put a force field over some magma and let water pour in and then trap the high pressure steam. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1050347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Could also make it that forcefield blocks all elements except genetic ooze? lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91753-force-field-door/#findComment-1051817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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