Lifegrow Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 A simple scalable build for those of you who might be struggling to cool your oxygen. Save file is in the youtube description. <3 Radiant pipes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90892-my-new-favourite-lazy-electrolyzer-build/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greep Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 You and I have way different definitions of lazy Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90892-my-new-favourite-lazy-electrolyzer-build/#findComment-1035933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Heat management in the main base seems less important now that you don't have as much crop food farming at lower temperatures. I'm very fond of a more compact design. 2 electrolyzers and 1 vent in each sub room. Most of the oxygen goes out the bottom. The rest goes through 2 mechanical filters per pair of rooms. One for hydrogen and the other for oxygen. They do go over pressure quite a bit but does that really matter much when you can build more of them? I do pass cooling pipes through them along with the rest of the base later on though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90892-my-new-favourite-lazy-electrolyzer-build/#findComment-1035937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I've been using QuQuasar's SPOM. Yeah, it requires 4 Wheezeworts to run, but it performs well with 100% uptime. At least, until my whole base over-pressurizes and the pipes back up because I'm just not using enough O2 for my Dupes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90892-my-new-favourite-lazy-electrolyzer-build/#findComment-1035941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Lifegrow said: A simple scalable build for those of you who might be struggling to cool your oxygen. "simple" When ppl choose the/your way of permanent running electrolyzers, they have to invest work, to cool O² down, but only then. Four filters for O².. Your whole design relays on a nice slush geyser. In all my games i never found a nice one. So far i found only one but it was useless. Using so much cooling power to cool a flaw system, is not the right way, but that's how humans do it in reallife too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90892-my-new-favourite-lazy-electrolyzer-build/#findComment-1035967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enginator Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Love to talk about this stuff, and did enjoy your video. Hoping you could critique my logic and setup since I have not really contributed that much. My cooling system uses a polluted water loop (gives the largest energy exchange of the liquids at thermoaquatuner I believe). I just accept that the air will go out hot and the heat will be dealt with at the base by my water cooling system. The rationale behind this is that you need to cool the base down any way so why not save yourself another complicated mechanism. This is a pretty common design from what I can tell, but the electrolyzers are compact and this actually pumps energy back into my base. Hot O2 going straight out to the base. The best way I have found at the moment for my bases are to take advantage of the fixed heat output of the electrolyzer to help deal with the hot water problem. Geyser water, purified water and refinery water (hot, clean water) supplies my electrolyzers and oil wells because they effectively delete that excess heat. My thermodynamics is a bit rusty but I calculated: Again it brings up if the fixed temp output is a bug debate but this was the simplest way I have found to knock out a few hundred kJ of energy by just supplying carefully. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90892-my-new-favourite-lazy-electrolyzer-build/#findComment-1035981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Five words. Mechanical filters for the win. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90892-my-new-favourite-lazy-electrolyzer-build/#findComment-1036015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Oozinator said: "simple" When ppl choose the/your way of permanent running electrolyzers, they have to invest work, to cool O² down, but only then. Four filters for O².. Your whole design relays on a nice slush geyser. In all my games i never found a nice one. So far i found only one but it was useless. Using so much cooling power to cool a flaw system, is not the right way, but that's how humans do it in reallife too. They're not permanently running electrolyzers, they're intermittent - hence the ratio being greater than the amount of pumps. This isn't intended to be a power positive "SPOM" build, it's intended to be a workhorse for creating lots of O2. For the sake of keeping the build running, I'm dumping my O2 into an over pressurised vent room don't forget - in practice you'd consume what you need and adjust the size of the build to suit your colony. Cooling O2 is also an incredibly efficient way of keeping your base regulated at the same time. Four filters are needed because of the scale of this build - i.e. 8 pumps = 4 pipes at potentially full capacity. I do explain in the video that to save power you could use mechanical filters - but again, I kept it straight forward as the video was primarily about the radiant pipes, pipe sensors, and how much you can cool with only a small amount of liquid. I've found a slush geyser in 4 of 6 of my playthroughs since they were introduced - however again I did explain that if you don't have one, then you'll need to cool a small amount of liquid elsewhere to fill the radiator every couple of cycles - easily done with only passive wheeze cooling if you're worried about power.. I'm baffled as to where this comes from : Quote Using so much cooling power to cool a flaw system, is not the right way, but that's how humans do it in reallife too. So much power? An occasional pump and a couple of liquid shut offs? Replace every gas filter with a mechanical one and it barely uses any power whatsoever. Furthermore - once the coolant has exited the oxygen room it would logically be used elsewhere anyway for either cooling or feeding to fert synths. 2 hours ago, Yoma_Nosme said: Five words. Mechanical filters for the win. Six words - "I explained that in the video" Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90892-my-new-favourite-lazy-electrolyzer-build/#findComment-1036043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 For those of you without a slush geyser : Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90892-my-new-favourite-lazy-electrolyzer-build/#findComment-1036064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfALegend Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I went with the door pump method to minimize power consumption in a pinch but still need to move the plant to more permanent site Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90892-my-new-favourite-lazy-electrolyzer-build/#findComment-1036165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiros Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I built my self-cooling electorlyzer system very similar to this one: I then pump 2k/s geyser water through a wheezewort hydrogen room on its way to the oxygen system's water tank, it's ~56F by the time it ends up in the tank. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90892-my-new-favourite-lazy-electrolyzer-build/#findComment-1036192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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