Simple but perfect early game heat insulation

[Kasuha]

I believe a picture is worth a thousand words:

But I'll add a few words anyway. This was a kind of an accident actually. I built a staircase of insulated tiles first. And then I realized that if I deconstruct the bottom layer through corners, the space created will contain vacuum andtherefore be perfect heat insulation.

The same can be done with straight wall, it's just slightly more laborous as you need to build it tile by tile, digging out one tile behind the wall every time. 

And you lose the access to dug out material until you build better insulation later and can break the vacuum seal.

 

[Neotuck]

nice

[TehPlayer14]

I don't think heat is such big of a deal in early game I started to have problems around cycle 150 but I dig myself some wheezeworts early and I don't need to worry

Bigger problem is the new geysers especially the steam ones

[Oozinator]

2 minutes ago, TehPlayer14 said:

Bigger problem is the new geysers especially the steam ones

But it's good for that too. Low ressources, great efficiency through vacuum. Open doors worked too (for me, same way), but they cost metal..

[TehPlayer14]

7 minutes ago, Oozinator said:

But it's good for that too. Low ressources, great efficiency through vacuum. Open doors worked too (for me, same way), but they cost metal..

So open doors don't conduct heat? if void is present

[Oozinator]

Just now, TehPlayer14 said:

So open doors don't conduct heat? if void is present

When you have for example three vertical doors, next to each other, three in a row and open the middle one (with automation), it creates (created) a vacuum. In that case yes, when the middle door stays open, it transferred no heat

[TehPlayer14]

Just now, Oozinator said:

When you have for example three vertical doors, next to each other, three in a row and open the middle one (with automation), it creates (created) a vacuum. In that case yes, when the middle door stays open, it transferred no heat

Well I was about to ask if that worked...

Anyway I think doors are more reliable than just digging up tiles

[Lutzkhie]

heat is a problem mid game to late game and best way to fix it is by avoiding it in the first place, this is a great solution, making vacuum by build and dig

[Repseki]

If you build the vacuum walls from the outside, or just make some access to the underside of each corner at a later point, you can get the materials out without having to break the seal. It's just a little quirky, and may require some mechanized door building to knock the debris through a corner crack (the door materials then fall out the same way when you deconstruct them, if the game likes you).

For stuff like your first picture you can also encourage your dupes to grab anything they ignore by building some ladder shenanigans. They seem to like being a few tiles up before they will realize they can pick the stuff up.

[Denisetwin]

oh what a great idea, thanks for sharing!

[BlueLance]

@Kasuha Couldnt you do the same in theory with just the natural blocks? Obviously the blocks you use will still retain their heat and seep it, but the vacuum would still form right?

[Kasuha]

1 hour ago, BlueLance said:

@Kasuha Couldnt you do the same in theory with just the natural blocks? Obviously the blocks you use will still retain their heat and seep it, but the vacuum would still form right?

With the stairs, yes. Not with the vertical wall.

But since apparently insulated tiles now provide perfect heat insulation regardless of material used, this solution may be only worth it until you research insulated tiles.

[TheScaryOne]

Where was this in the patch notes?

[Denisetwin]

On 3/19/2018 at 10:25 AM, Kasuha said:

With the stairs, yes. Not with the vertical wall.

But since apparently insulated tiles now provide perfect heat insulation regardless of material used, this solution may be only worth it until you research insulated tiles.

Why wouldn't it work with normal blocks with a vertical wall?  The vacuum is still behind each block, I'm missing something.

[Kasuha]

24 minutes ago, Denisetwin said:

Why wouldn't it work with normal blocks with a vertical wall?  The vacuum is still behind each block, I'm missing something.

The question was if you can dig between natural tiles. Meaning, there would be natural tiles, then the dug out vacuum, then further natural tiles. You can do that at the stairs part, but you can't do that with the vertical wall as you have to build that wall as you're digging out the vacuum right behind it.

[Kiros]

You have up to 3 hydrogen cooling machines per map now, and if you're lucky enough to find either a slush geyser or a polluted water geyser, you have an infinite source of cooling, since the slush geyser produces polluted water at around 5F and the regular one around 80F.