Jigsawn Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Here is the setup: I have an algae shortage so I am trying to convert slime to algae in the distillers as fast as possible. Still on the OC Update - I had my slime distillers set to Priority 6 (most other tasks are priority 5). Dupes would dutifully come to this slime cave and ferry slime to the distillers whenever they needed refilling. The problem was that a lot of the dupes would just hoover up one or two pieces of slime - for example Puft poo weighing a fraction of a Kg, and then go to the distillers. They were carrying far less than they normally could. Instead of going around the area and hoovering up as much slime as they could carry (it's all very close together), they just would take one or two bits at a time making a lot of trips back and forth with tiny quantities of slime - even when bigger chunks were available. In other places in the game I've seen dupes hoover up something, and then search around nearby for the same material and pick up those too, to maximise their carried load. Why aren't my dupes doing that here? And how can I optimise their deliveries to the distillers? There is a mixture of heavy mined slime, and light Puft poo slime lying around in the same area. Whenever a slime delivery is needed, it takes ages for a distiller to refill - and lots of dupe time - because only the mined slime deposits are making an impact. I want the puft poo to be used as well but right now it's very inefficient with how they are choosing what slime to pick up. Cheers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Do you have a storage compactor set accept slime? Is that lower priority than the algae distillers? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1014923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 They have been doing this for a very long time. Only solution is to lock the doors and automate opening to limit dup access Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1014941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsawn Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 `Thanks Chemie. That's sad. Saturnus yes the storage compactor next to the distillers is set to slime only, on a 5 priority. They have never stored in it yet, apart from one time where I set it to 6 and the distillers were full already. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1014999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, chemie said: They have been doing this for a very long time. Only solution is to lock the doors and automate opening to limit dup access This. You could always use a sweeper arm - those things love to be busy fools Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I plan to make a puft farm that can support an algae distiller with the new ranch update. I'll post my design when it's finished Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jigsawn said: Saturnus yes the storage compactor next to the distillers is set to slime only, on a 5 priority. They have never stored in it yet, apart from one time where I set it to 6 and the distillers were full already. See. It works as intended when you set the correct priorities (and disable job priorities) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Neotuck said: I plan to make a puft farm that can support an algae distiller with the new ranch update. I'll post my design when it's finished Ya, good luck with that. You'll need around 400 pufts to support 1 distilled. Assuming my math is right, but it might not be. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Soulwind said: Ya, good luck with that. You'll need around 400 pufts to support 1 distilled. Assuming my math is right, but it might not be. you already saw my post when I tried that Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Ahh, sorry neotuck. Didn't realize that was your post too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsYiyas Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Soulwind said: Ya, good luck with that. You'll need around 400 pufts to support 1 distilled. Assuming my math is right, but it might not be. I mean 360kg of slime a day is pretty hefty... That's enough to support 90 mushrooms instead. I don't like the algae distillers at all for that reason; you need to make food out of something and typically that something is clean cool water which is a lot harder to come by. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, itsYiyas said: I mean 360kg of slime a day is pretty hefty... That's enough to support 90 mushrooms instead. I don't like the algae distillers at all for that reason; you need to make food out of something and typically that something is clean cool water which is a lot harder to come by. it's 360g per day not 360kg Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsYiyas Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Neotuck said: it's 360g per day not 360kg For an algae distiller on 100% uptime? 600g/s * 600s = 360,000g - 360kg. Or do you mean a puft outputs 360g per day? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Lifegrow said: This. You could always use a sweeper arm - those things love to be busy fools Sweepers wait until a large enough particle accumulates so dups will still try to beat them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, itsYiyas said: For an algae distiller on 100% uptime? 600g/s * 600s = 360,000g - 360kg. Or do you mean a puft outputs 360g per day? I meant pufts, my bad Just now, chemie said: Sweepers wait until a large enough particle accumulates so dups will still try to beat them. how large? I seen sweepers pick up slime at 200g or less Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Large enough for a full single conveyer packet. I forget that number. Small but not grams like OPs issue Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, chemie said: Large enough for a full single conveyer packet. I forget that number. Small but not grams like OPs issue ok I ask because I never seen a sweeper ignore anything if dupes can't reach it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, chemie said: Sweepers wait until a large enough particle accumulates so dups will still try to beat them. Mine don't... mine will pick up an individual sleetwheat seed if it has a home... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Lifegrow said: Mine don't... mine will pick up an individual sleetwheat seed if it has a home... Seeds might be different. I know a sweeper was waiting for large enough fertilizer packets while dups were framing smaller ones away when I had demand for fertilizer right when machines first turned on. Had to lick dups out to allow sweep to start. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, chemie said: Seeds might be different. I know a sweeper was waiting for large enough fertilizer packets while dups were framing smaller ones away when I had demand for fertilizer right when machines first turned on. Had to lick dups out to allow sweep to start. I do know sweepers will ignore items if a dupe is curently assigned to pick it up. I don't think the mass of the item is relevent Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Neotuck said: I do know sweepers will ignore items if a dupe is curently assigned to pick it up. I don't think the mass of the item is relevent Could be Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, chemie said: Could be I decided to test it out with 50 mcg dirt and the sweeper picked it up Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Ok but it won't solve OPs issue as dups will lock out those 10p g packets for collection Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88674-why-are-dupes-carrying-tiny-amounts-of-slime/#findComment-1015115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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