BlueLance Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Ello All, During the Ranching Preview I recently died due to heat death (Stupid dupes decided to bring over 18T of +1000C Igneous rock into my base whilst clearing out a Big Volcano I found. if hatches poop out coal at a fixed temperature, would we not be able to set up a hatch farm isolated away from our bases in a vacuum and abyssalite room and feed them the hot materials? If this works you can literally heat up your useless materials, and sent them to be eaten by the ever loving hatch, and still get eggs. or if you are not fussed about eggs you could just put several feeders in their and forget about the eggs! But realistically they take time to eat, but getting rid of high temperature materials without cooling would be great, obviously you can just sroee them in a vacuum and the heat wont go anywhere but thats no fun Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 So what makes it new (as per tittle)? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 I spose that is true, since you could always do it but it did say possibly, but now you are having materials over 1000 degrees added to your world, gotta cool/get rid of it somehow! I do not know if eating the hot stuff would kill them. Edit - It was meant to say possibly, but I wrote possible oops. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 personally I would dump these in oil till they hit <200, above 1kc they should autospall natgas on contact with petrol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, Kabrute said: personally I would dump these in oil till they hit <200, above 1kc they should autospall natgas on contact with petrol I will not lie, never thought about that and personally I like this more as nat gas is more useful to me than coal! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzkhie Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 cool steam fumarole + AETN, will that work? cooling water Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Lutzkhie said: cool steam fumarole + AETN, will that work? cooling water Its called cool steam, but its still over 100 degrees celcius. the AETN is good, but I do not know how well it will cope with cooling down lava geysers, I have never used one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzkhie Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 if you happen to found a cool steam very close to an AETN maybe you can try it out, that idea just came out of nowhere Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 Hmmm thats a fair point that might help, but still a lot of heat to try and run through Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobruk Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 5 hours ago, BlueLance said: Ello All, During the Ranching Preview I recently died due to heat death (Stupid dupes decided to bring over 18T of +1000C Igneous rock into my base whilst clearing out a Big Volcano I found Heat death is not losing your colony due to heat issues. The term refers to the reaching of equilibrium in terms of heath, so its spread out uniformally all over the place, let's say +20 C everywhere. Nothing can happen in such environment because there needs to be heat difference (see something similar with regards to wind - they go from high pressure area to lower preasure area). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, Tobruk said: Heat death is not losing your colony due to heat issues. The term refers to the reaching of equilibrium in terms of heath, so its spread out uniformally all over the place, let's say +20 C everywhere. Nothing can happen in such environment because there needs to be heat difference (see something similar with regards to wind - they go from high pressure area to lower preasure area). Ok sorry, most of my base more or less went above 50 degrees stopping all food production. Dno what you want to call that. They starved, due to heat stopping everything XD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuirem Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, BlueLance said: Most of my base more or less went above 50 degrees stopping all food production. Dno what you want to call that. They starved, due to heat stopping everything XD Scorched Earth? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Heat Death? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, Kuirem said: Scorched Earth? ARK is that you? haha. I dno obviously it wasnt heat that killed me directly, but it sure as hell didnt help Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuirem Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, BlueLance said: ARK is that you? haha. I dno obviously it wasnt heat that killed me directly, but it sure as hell didnt help I was more thinking of that : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_earth than ARK though both work I guess. And for the military tactic it's not the heat that kills but the destruction of resources, just like in your case. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trukogre Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 10 hours ago, Tobruk said: Heat death is not losing your colony due to heat issues. The term refers to the reaching of equilibrium in terms of heath, so its spread out uniformally all over the place, let's say +20 C everywhere. Nothing can happen in such environment because there needs to be heat difference (see something similar with regards to wind - they go from high pressure area to lower preasure area). Heat death in cosmology is heat equilibrium, as you describe. It's perfectly fine for us to use a different definition in ONI for heat death, such as "my colony died because it got too hot", because ONI and cosmology are distinct fields and the danger of confusion from operator overloading is acceptably low. English is replete with examples of short and simple phrases such as 'heat death' having different meaning in different fields. English is even replete with phrases having different meaning in the same field, e.g., cervical can mean 'relating to the neck', or 'relating to the entrance to the uterus', both medical terms, an example of operator overloading in a single field which is much more confusing than using heat death would be here. So, in conclusion, I will continue to use 'heat death' in ONI to refer to overheating of a colony, and I hope that my doing so will not be too much of a pain in the cervix for you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT_20 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 @BlueLance Lol never thought I would see a reference to ark in an oni post but scorched earth is a perfect compliment to “heat death” in oni. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88608-possible-new-heat-deletion-method/#findComment-1014464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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