S19TealPenguin Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Do airlocks (mechanized/manual) block all gas flow no matter what or do they let air out while a duplicant is moving through them? I never really knew the answer and I want to try and tap into a natural gas geyser that I found early. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 they let air through when open Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S19TealPenguin Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 What is the best way to make a room airtight then? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 absolute air tight would be a stacked water lock, build a double v and drop water in it to make it thermal tight add a second water lock with a vacuum between Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 You murdered a hatch to make an airlock. You monster! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 actually it commited suicide after construction, like, it made a point of jumping around and into the airlock then into the deepest part of the water..... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 funny I read this topic while making a water airlock to a natural gas geyser, here's a pic Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arcanian Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Water locks always felt like an exploit to me. I just use a vacuum lock, as in a gas pump between two doors, usually paired with a filter for the gas I want to keep in. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 considering dupes get debuffs for using it, its not super exploity and thus not an exploit but a factored element of the game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggles Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 9 hours ago, The Arcanian said: Water locks always felt like an exploit to me. I just use a vacuum lock, as in a gas pump between two doors, usually paired with a filter for the gas I want to keep in. There's a water lock in every real life toilet u-bend. Is that an exploit? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminite2 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Just now, Moggles said: There's a water lock in every real life toilet u-bend. Is that an exploit? This is a good point. However, those don't work if there is a large pressure difference. So, if by 'exploit' we just mean something in the simulation that is very different from reality, then a water lock to stop mixing of similar-pressure gases is fine, but to keep a room pressurized is not. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatTheDuck Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I dont see them as a exploit but i also avoid them.... i feel more comfortable with a vacuum airlock. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Luminite2 said: This is a good point. However, those don't work if there is a large pressure difference. So, if by 'exploit' we just mean something in the simulation that is very different from reality, then a water lock to stop mixing of similar-pressure gases is fine, but to keep a room pressurized is not. It is hardly us, the players, fault that the game does not, yet at least, any realistic representation of pressure. It doesn't need to either really. Physics in a game world does not have to be realistic, it just needs to be consistent with itself. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT_20 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 @Saturnus I totally agree with you I think if the physics are somewhat believeable it doesn’t matter to much but if it’s something like a 30 tile tall mountain of oil supported by a couple of water packets the physics need to be addressed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arcanian Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 14 hours ago, Kabrute said: considering dupes get debuffs for using it, its not super exploity and thus not an exploit but a factored element of the game This is a fair point, but the debuff is quite manageable. 6 hours ago, Luminite2 said: This is a good point. However, those don't work if there is a large pressure difference. So, if by 'exploit' we just mean something in the simulation that is very different from reality, then a water lock to stop mixing of similar-pressure gases is fine, but to keep a room pressurized is not. Yes, the pressure part is what bugs me. 5 hours ago, Saturnus said: It is hardly us, the players, fault that the game does not, yet at least, any realistic representation of pressure. It doesn't need to either really. Physics in a game world does not have to be realistic, it just needs to be consistent with itself. 1 While I agree that consistency is most important. When you have a game that is supposed to function off of a simplified physics simulation you can only get so far from real physics before it is no longer a physics simulation and is just a game with weird rules. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOlz Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Your only other good option, (before making something with automation and pumps) after liquid locks is to use the 4 airlock trick, which is taking advantage of gas deletion. So it's kind of choose which "exploit" you are more comfortable with Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87473-airlocks/#findComment-1003425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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