Deconstructing Wash Basin.

[addyz0r]

Hey just a quick question, 

Am I overlooking how to deconstruct wash basins? When I do, they empty the water and polluted water as well, on the ground. Germs all over my base.

Thanks in advance

[Arash70]

take it easy on yourself, build hand sanitizers

[addyz0r]

When I used to deconstruct them, they were emptied into bottles and delivered to bottle emptier. Now they are just emptied on the floor.

[Arash70]

here, take my build as a model if you like

find a chlorine spot, take some bleachstones and build hand sanitizers.

 

this is the way

[addyz0r]

I understand what your'e a saying and it's a good base you have. I build wash basins and want them removed and upgraded with sinks or sanitizers, but when i deconstruct them, the dubes empty the polluted water on the ground. 

[TheOlz]

50 minutes ago, addyz0r said:

Hey just a quick question, 

Am I overlooking how to deconstruct wash basins? When I do, they empty the water and polluted water as well, on the ground. Germs all over my base.

Thanks in advance

Is this in the beta branch, because you're absolutely right about them normally dropping containers.

If it is beta branch it's either a stealthy change or a bug.

[addyz0r]

It's the beta, occupational upgrade. Guess it's a bug, as I expected. But just wanted to make sure. Quite a messy bug  

[TheOlz]

Report it, if it isn't already - confirmation of whether it's a bug or change would be nice

Really hoping its a bug, btw

[addyz0r]

Yeah I hope it's a bug as well. This would not be good change for the game

[Moggles]

The first time it happened I ALT-F4 out because I was expecting bottles but instead all my clean water was instantly infected with the mess.

[Hechicera]

Farm plots and containers too (in the preview).

[Oozinator]

 

4 hours ago, Arash70 said:

here, take my build as a model if you like

find a chlorine spot, take some bleachstones and build hand sanitizers.

 

this is the way

 

1 hour ago, Arash70 said:

Colony failed, they ran out of food .

Why is this game so hard? :/

 

Wuahahaha ^^ "this is the way"

[addyz0r]

@Arash70 

This isnt hard. It hasn't been for over a year. Back when there were no unlimited water and you actually had to dig to get polluted water to get clean water and everything was finite. Only real way to survive were puke bases.  That was hard. Now it's get gyesers, one for power, one for water and one to clean everything. Just have to be careful with germs and fast enough to get water cooled and you should never die. 

 

[Arash70]

50 minutes ago, addyz0r said:

@Arash70 

This isnt hard. It hasn't been for over a year. Back when there were no unlimited water and you actually had to dig to get polluted water to get clean water and everything was finite. Only real way to survive were puke bases.  That was hard. Now it's get gyesers, one for power, one for water and one to clean everything. Just have to be careful with germs and fast enough to get water cooled and you should never die. 

 

But back then tools that you used were much more limited,

The most complicated building was just the natural gas generator,

right now you have to consider all of these overlays, use all of those tools and thats where it gets complicated.

 

Let me give you an example, getting plastic:

1-Make an oxygen room

2-Make exosuit room

3-Make a lot of power to support it

4-Go down and dig and just hope you find oil

5-Make another room for oil processing

6-Make power for that room

7-Cool it down somehow

8-Make a pump down in the oil area

9-Make a plastic manufacturing room

 

Now you might be able to get some plastic.

 

You can do that with a lot of dupes actually, but its too resource heavy for my GPU (GTS 450). 

So I end up having 6-8 confused dupes, and sometimes I just end up in a logical deadlock.

 

I think the minimum required gpu should be gtx 950m and the recommended gpu should be a  gtx 950 or 1050;

while in the old times my gpu performed really well on this game.

[Saturnus]

19 minutes ago, Arash70 said:

I think the minimum required GPU for this game should be a gtx 950 or 1050 

The game doesn't tax the GPU. Or the CPU if you've got just a reasonable dual core or better. It is just very badly coded.

Case in point, the difference in FPS between my laptop (i7 6660U (2 cores/ 4 threads) with 16GB RAM and Iris Pro iGPU) and my workstation (dual socket Xeon 8 core/16 threads, 192GB RAM and dual Vega Frontier GPUs) isn't really that big. At ultra-speed there is a big difference but at all normal game speeds there isn't.

[Arash70]

2 minutes ago, Saturnus said:

The game doesn't tax the GPU. Or the CPU if you've got just a reasonable dual core or better. It is just very badly coded.

Case in point, the difference in FPS between my laptop (i7 6660U with 16GB RAM and Iris Pro iGPU) and my workstation (dual socket Xeon 8 core/16 threads, 192GB RAM and dual Vega Frontier GPUs) isn't really that big.

You're absolutely wrong,

the game does tax the gpu, at it should tax the gpu (because of parallel computing).

My gpu is almost always at 100%

 

You see, fps doesn't drop, but when they get confused, they start killing themselves and not doing jobs based on given priorities.

[Saturnus]

Just now, Arash70 said:

My gpu is almost always at 100%

My workstaion barely scratch 12% GPU load.

[Arash70]

2 minutes ago, Saturnus said:

My workstaion barely scratch 12% GPU load.

Dual vega,

you should test it with something like a 7700 + 1050ti

[Saturnus]

Just now, Arash70 said:

Dual vega,

It can only use one through, and I don't use the game optimized setting either. My workstation isn't set up for gaming but for work. 

[blash365]

Already reported, confirmed and will be fixed with the next update.

 

 

[Arash70]

3 hours ago, Saturnus said:

It can only use one through, and I don't use the game optimized setting either. My workstation isn't set up for gaming but for work. 

here take a look:

this one's my laptop

specs: i5 5200u, 920m

resolution: 1680x1050 (same monitor)

 

My desktop is pretty much the same when is comes to oni (i5 2310, gts 450).

As I said its a matter of parallel computing performance rather than serial computing performance which cpu does.

[Saturnus]

53 minutes ago, Arash70 said:

here take a look:

this one's my laptop

specs: i5 5200u, 920m

resolution: 1680x1050 (same monitor)

 

 

Here's my laptop performance using the built in Iris Pro 540 iGPU (GPU 0).

It's a 2160x1440 13.3" AMOLED display and resolution is set to display resolution.

[Oozinator]

I am not sure, how exact that is, when i tab out, to make a screenie on desktop? It's looking, like core downstepping?
i-2500k (no OC)
 

[Saturnus]

I think there's definitely something wrong with @Arash70's set up. This game hardly uses any GPU at all, nor CPU in fact. It's just really slow even without maximum out any resources. It also only uses one thread as far a I can tell.

[addyz0r]

@Arash70 The game is more complex in what you can build, but the survival bit is hardly even a problem if you do it right. When I started playing there were no gas generator. The only power were hamsters and coal. You should check out the vomit rocket. Crazy. You ran out of water and puke makes water. Quite a lot actually.