asmallrabbit Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Was trying to see how much of an affect learning had on skill leveling times with new games where I would take some various dupes with different levels of learning and try to level their Athletics by simply walking back and forth in the starting area. Two dupes with 0 in athletics and one with a 5 in learning leveled from 0-1 at the exact same time. Is there something about the amount that I'm not understanding or was it because it was the first level of the skill? I would expect the one with a higher learning to have hit 1 in Athletics first since it says 50% skill gain, but that wasn't the case. I can only assume the requirement for the first level is so small that it had a negligible effect. Method was using the move to command to walk from one side of the area to the other, pause, issue the command to both to go back to the other side and keep going. EDIT: Kept going to level 2 with same result, both skilled up at the exact same time. Not what I would expect from the description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
386146_1452784079 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 learning skill affects how fast they research new technology at science station or super computer, not how fast they level skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickPay Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 44 minutes ago, 386146_1452784079 said: learning skill affects how fast they research new technology at science station or super computer, not how fast they level skills. Has it always been like this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, PickPay said: Has it always been like this ? Always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DsnowMan Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I thought it said in the description it affected how fast they pick up other skills too. When you hover over Learning in game in a dupe's stats tab, it tells you what their boost to skill levelling is supposed to be. I am thinking bug, or maybe it only affects certain skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, DsnowMan said: When you hover over Learning in game in a dupe's stats tab, it tells you what their boost to skill levelling is supposed to be. I am thinking bug, or maybe it only affects certain skills? The attribute converter exists. It's just never referenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmallrabbit Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 So then only the research part of the skill is working. The description clearly says it also gives a percentage to leveling skills as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumina Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Maybe it should be removed if it's not the case anymore. So people will not search for this stat thinking it's very useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShamPeiN Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 well i used bonus rather than the skill, fast learner has 5 extra skills, but still the same xp needed to level up few levels good to know ty my strategy was using my scientists as diggers so they level up faster at digging, never checked if its true i wish research would be slower, at least 100 cycles per 2 dupes constantly or research points could be used as a currency to buy/upgrade things for example some limited buildings would be 100-200 research points, animals like 50 rp or special items, like some concentrated oxygen, clean water package, seeds, special planter boxes , medicine, air cleaners , bigger battery, food package, controlable temperature room, decor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onebit Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Clearly says skill leveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calahan Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 @ onebit - ^^^ But have you tested it? As although the tooltip says Learning increases Skill Levelling, it (currently v.217955) seems to have no affect (remember this is an early alpha game so bugs and missing features are not unexpected). To test this I just started a new game with the following dupes: Alan - Digging 0 Learning 0. Bob - Digging 0 Learning 7. Clive - Digging 0 Learning 12 (+Quick Learner trait). All three dups did nothing but dig from the very start until they reached Digging level 1. If either the Learning skill or Quick Learner trait helped in levelling skills then Clive should have reached Digging level 1 well ahead of the others. But in my quick test all 3 dups reached Digging level 1 at the same moment*, which is only explained if the Learning Skill (and Quick Learner) has no affect on skill levelling. (*there were a few seconds between them levelling up, with Alan actually being first, but this was due to some dups needing to walk a fraction further than others to reach the next dig point. When this is accounted for the level up time was the same). If you have run a test that shows otherwise then please post the results. But this is a quick and simple thing to test so it's easy to determine the current working status. The tooltip would suggest this is currently bugged, which I assume will be fixed at some point, but how it works at the moment is often more useful to players (who are playing the game now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onebit Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Not saying it works, but that what it says! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calahan Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubledgedboard Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 What do they mean by Skill Leveling, though? Learning is listed as an 'Attribute', so what is a 'Skill'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, doubledgedboard said: What do they mean by Skill Leveling, though? Learning is listed as an 'Attribute', so what is a 'Skill'? It's the same things, just called differently in different places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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