disies Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Because I hate suprises I have a few questions about the antlion and the new update. I've read somewhere that you don't need ice flingomatics in the desert during summer or to be more precisely at the oasis. Is this true? Is the antlion in the same desert as the oasis? Is the antlion stationary, can I find it in the same spot everytime or does it move after enraged or until the next summer? If I don't appease it while I'm in the cave, will the cave ins (caused by antlion) only target ME or will rocks fall just like the normal cave ins a screen wide? I don't want my structures destroyed and want to know how far I have to leave my base or other structures. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister_Fang Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, disies said: Is the antlion in the same desert as the oasis? Yes. 6 minutes ago, disies said: Is the antlion stationary, can I find it in the same spot everytime or does it move after enraged or until the next summer? Yes, it's stationary. As far as I'm aware, it won't move if it was killed or when the next summer comes. Although I'd like to note I was on a world made before the Antlion so there's still that possibility it can move. 9 minutes ago, disies said: If I don't appease it while I'm in the cave, will the cave ins (caused by antlion) only target ME or will rocks fall just like the normal cave ins a screen wide? Just like sinkholes, cave ins will only target you. You should get a warning before this happens so you'll have plenty of time to react and move away from anything important. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi01 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 3 hours ago, disies said: I've read somewhere that you don't need ice flingomatics in the desert during summer or to be more precisely at the oasis. Is this true? The desert with the oasis has a sandstorm during summer. This will slow you down quite a bit and make it hard to see things but it prevents smoldering although you can still overheat. You can get blueprints for goggles that let you walk normally in the sandstorm by fishing in the oasis. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellimarual Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 You won't get smouldering in the oasis desert. You will still get summer hound waves and fire staffs will still work, so depending on what kind of killer noobs come around you could still need to put out fires there. If you're sure everyone has the sense to leave base during hound waves and not to accidentally set stuff on fire, you will be fine without them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disies Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rellimarual said: You won't get smouldering in the oasis desert. You will still get summer hound waves and fire staffs will still work, so depending on what kind of killer noobs come around you could still need to put out fires there. If you're sure everyone has the sense to leave base during hound waves and not to accidentally set stuff on fire, you will be fine without them. In the whole desert? Wow. I play alone so leaving is not an issue. Thanks to everyone : ) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudura2017 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Nobody's actually answering the question here - Does smoldering happen at the Oasis? No, not in the Desert cus of the Sandstorm. What about the Oasis? Anybody? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disies Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, Sudura2017 said: Nobody's actually answering the question here - Does smoldering happen at the Oasis? No, not in the Desert cus of the Sandstorm. What about the Oasis? Anybody? Probably also no. As for me I won't build anything directly around the oasis since I want to collect succulents. BTW: I just looked where my oasis is and it was exactly in the spot I had hoped for. Can start building my summer base now. : ) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudura2017 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 1 minute ago, disies said: Probably also no. As for me I won't build anything directly around the oasis since I want to collect succulents. BTW: I just looked where my oasis is and it was exactly in the spot I had hoped for. Can start building my summer base now. : ) Oasis isn't affected by Sandstorm though, so it probably will smoulder, right...? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disies Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 Just now, Sudura2017 said: Oasis isn't affected by Sandstorm though, so it probably will smoulder, right...? Could be. Hope someone knows. Anyway, does the sandstorm last the whole summer or does it occur in waves? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellimarual Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 No, Oasis doesn't smolder, but the storm-free area around it is very small, about the dimension of a character, so it doesn't make that much of a difference. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel12 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 No, it doesn't smother. That's the only reason you'd want to build a base there. 7 hours ago, disies said: In the whole desert? Wow. I play alone so leaving is not an issue. Thanks to everyone : ) Leaving is an issue. That's a mistake I made. Understand that when we say the sandstorms slows you, we mean it REALLY slows you down. You walk at a snails pace. You can't dodge. I haven't figured how to survive hounds yet, because there's no way of getting out in time. The question is though, can you expand the Oasis with grass turfs? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disies Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Squirrel12 said: No, it doesn't smother. That's the only reason you'd want to build a base there. Leaving is an issue. That's a mistake I made. Understand that when we say the sandstorms slows you, we mean it REALLY slows you down. You walk at a snails pace. You can't dodge. I haven't figured how to survive hounds yet, because there's no way of getting out in time. The question is though, can you expand the Oasis with grass turfs? Good point. I plan to fish as soon as possible and as much as possible. Is the fishing loot limited or something? I doubt that you can expand the oasis Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellimarual Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 You can change turf around the oasis as with any other area. It would be nice if the oasis wasn't dry every season but summer. First, it is very pretty and being able to build a base around a water element was one of the best things about SW and would be nice to have in DST. Perhaps the devs are worried that if it becomes a year-round food and trinket source then it will be OP as a base location, but they could make it only yield trinkets in summer and maybe alternate fish with rocks or twigs or the other stuff you sometimes get when fishing for flotsam in ROG. Its not like there's tons of resources in the oasis desert as is, just volt goats and cacti. Not even tumbleweeds. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister_Fang Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 36 minutes ago, disies said: Is the fishing loot limited or something? Aside from the unique loot, it works pretty much the same way as a normal pond. Each time you fish up something it'll take longer to fish up something again. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-899926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disies Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 7 hours ago, Rellimarual said: You can change turf around the oasis as with any other area. It would be nice if the oasis wasn't dry every season but summer. First, it is very pretty and being able to build a base around a water element was one of the best things about SW and would be nice to have in DST. Perhaps the devs are worried that if it becomes a year-round food and trinket source then it will be OP as a base location, but they could make it only yield trinkets in summer and maybe alternate fish with rocks or twigs or the other stuff you sometimes get when fishing for flotsam in ROG. Its not like there's tons of resources in the oasis desert as is, just volt goats and cacti. Not even tumbleweeds. I have everything in my oasis desert. I just checked. Even tumbleweeds are spawning everywhere. It is also my only desert and I guess it's because I didn't generate a new world after the update. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-900241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister_Fang Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 3 hours ago, disies said: I have everything in my oasis desert. I just checked. Even tumbleweeds are spawning everywhere. It is also my only desert and I guess it's because I didn't generate a new world after the update. It spawned in that desert because for some reason your worldgen decided to cut out the 2nd one. Even pre-Against the Grain, worlds had 2 deserts. One with the dragonfly and one with an oasis (although it was just a few normal ponds, catcoons and trees). Not sure why, but occasionally the worldgen just decides to forget a biome. My previous world somehow cut out the rocky biome. Thankfully the meteor biome ended up being a decent size. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-900330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressayez Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I am ridiculously happy that I no longer have to flee to the caves lest my perpetually WIP base be burnt to a crisp, and this is coming from a guy who loves spelunking more than anything right now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-900552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disies Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ressayez said: I am ridiculously happy that I no longer have to flee to the caves lest my perpetually WIP base be burnt to a crisp, and this is coming from a guy who loves spelunking more than anything right now. I expect it to be either boring or extremely dangerous being in the desert. I walled my base in with stone because one burning tumbleweed came to close while I was building. *sigh Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-900567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressayez Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 1 minute ago, disies said: I expect it to be either boring or extremely dangerous being in the desert. I walled my base in with stone because one burning tumbleweed came to close while I was building. *sigh ??? Dangerous? I don't think desert summer bases are all that dangerous, well, certainly not more so than other kinds of summer bases (not including the highly unappreciated cave summer bases), the reason they've been around for so long is due to a lack of anything burnable and no sudden meteor showers, and what better a way to spend a summer than collecting cactus flowers and sifting through tumbleweeds for a good two hours... Boring, but the furthest thing from dangerous in a season that just wants you to suffer and die. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-900570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disies Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ressayez said: ??? Dangerous? I don't think desert summer bases are all that dangerous, well, certainly not more so than other kinds of summer bases (not including the highly unappreciated cave summer bases), the reason they've been around for so long is due to a lack of anything burnable and no sudden meteor showers, and what better a way to spend a summer than collecting cactus flowers and sifting through tumbleweeds for a good two hours... Boring, but the furthest thing from dangerous in a season that just wants you to suffer and die. dangerous as long as one doesn't have those goggles and running away / kiting a hound attack could go really bad because of the sandstorm Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-900584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister_Fang Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 4 hours ago, disies said: dangerous as long as one doesn't have those goggles and running away / kiting a hound attack could go really bad because of the sandstorm Well, if you have a desert base then you really should have goggles. That scenario really shouldn't happen unless you're still in the process of getting the goggle blueprints (one of the reasons why I believe the oasis should start to fill up in spring. You can prepare for other types of weather but for the sandstorm you actually have to be in the middle of it). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-900834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disies Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 I have another question. Will plants on farming plots wither during summer in the desert without a flingo? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-907993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acuaticyas Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 hour ago, disies said: I have another question. Will plants on farming plots wither during summer in the desert without a flingo? yes, yes they would. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/77428-questions-about-antlion-and-the-new-update/#findComment-908063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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