Rant about prediction (UPDATE)

[Faintly Macabre]

1 hour ago, rezecib said:

Yup, and nope. There's already a console command for toggling it, which can be done arbitrarily in-game, so all they have to do is make a button for it somewhere.

The point of that paragraph is that if there was no reason for them not to have already done so, they would have. There must be a reason they don't want to make it that easy to disable.

[rezecib]

1 hour ago, CaptainChaotica said:

Is movement prediction the thing that causes rubberbanding/boomeranging, sometimes--or is it the thing meant to help prevent it?

It's the cause, basically. It's not trying to prevent it, it's trying to make the game "feel" more responsive and fluid than it actually can be. Turning it off you'll see little bits of warping, stuttering, visible delay, etc.

Movement prediction isn't perfect, so it gets out of sync with the server ("desync"), and there's some threshold for this where the server says "hey, you think you're way too far away from you are, you're actually right *here*" ("resync"). Rubberbanding is when you resync, because you had too much desync. sync sync sink.

[TheKingofSquirrels]

10 hours ago, ConfusedCourier said:

Why are you even playing PVP if you just want the DST exclusive content?...

OH...GOD!!!

Ok, without going crazy, here's my answer:

- DST without PVP is just boring. You have two options, the first is to log into someone else's server, which sucks because you don't know whether they will reset the server, meaning that all your progress is absolutely pointless. Or you can have your own server, which is also boring AF because the game is way to easy when you cooperate with other players. In short, anything but PVP in DST is boring.

- Secondly, saying "if you don't like don't play it" is not a solution. 

8 hours ago, TheHalcyonOne said:

The only thing that looks sillier than writing a post with the f-bomb every other word is writing a post that would have the f-bomb for every other word but has asterisks where they would be instead.

I didn't put the asterisks. 

8 hours ago, TheHalcyonOne said:

 

[TheKingofSquirrels]

5 hours ago, AnonymousKoala said:

Did you ignore the 500 responses to your thread about content being sepereted between multiplayer and singleplayer?

The quite a few responses of "Klei already said they'll import the content when they can" and the fact THEY'RE NOT EVEN DONE MAKING THE CONTENT, so why would the port of it be done already?

This is not the point of the thread. The ONLY reason I mentioned it at all is because there are bound to be people who will say "well if you dont like it, dont play it"

(So laugh at something else idiot) Ignore this, I miss interpreted his previous post as something insulting, I apologise for the insult.

[AnonymousKoala]

3 minutes ago, TheKingofSquirrels said:

This is not the point of the thread. The ONLY reason I mentioned it at all is because there are bound to be people who will say "well if you dont like it, dont play it"

So laugh at something else idiot.

Did I laugh at you?

(Also resorting to names. Real mature)

[TheKingofSquirrels]

I 

6 minutes ago, AnonymousKoala said:

Did I laugh at you?

(Also resorting to names. Real mature)

I miss read your post, sorry. 

[Maslak]

A lil bit offtop:
"No More Lag" mod with switch button in-game would be nice ;-; I'm usually too laggy and disabling prediction makes it even worse - but it's good to disable prediction for giant fights etc, using wsad + f works with higher pings, usually.

[Faintly Macabre]

1 hour ago, TheKingofSquirrels said:

I didn't put the asterisks.

But 999 posts in you know they'll be put there for you, so.

1 hour ago, TheKingofSquirrels said:

Or you can have your own server, which is also boring AF because the game is way to easy when you cooperate with other players.

Password lock it and play on your own?

[TheKingofSquirrels]

3 minutes ago, TheHalcyonOne said:

But 999 posts in you know they'll be put there for you, so.

Password lock it and play on your own?

I've made a whole other thread of why I can't do that. 

[TheKingofSquirrels]

13 hours ago, Mario384 said:

A moment of silence for our fallen comrades.

 

Anywho, I'm just saying that everyone should still have access to turning off prediction, though maybe allow it to be changed in the options instead instead of using a command.

Also, thanks for telling me to love myself, beats me why you censored it.

That's pretty funny haha

[Faintly Macabre]

15 minutes ago, TheKingofSquirrels said:

I've made a whole other thread of why I can't do that. 

Where?

[TheKingofSquirrels]

13 hours ago, Mario384 said:

 

Where?

 

[Faintly Macabre]

That's not a thread about why you can't do that, although I see there is a post there. So... you can't do that because you have no self-control and can't steer clear of giants that hover around a fixed point and otherwise won't bother you?

I think maybe you just like to complain.

[TheKingofSquirrels]

44 minutes ago, TheHalcyonOne said:

That's not a thread about why you can't do that, although I see there is a post there. So... you can't do that because you have no self-control and can't steer clear of giants that hover around a fixed point and otherwise won't bother you?

I think maybe you just like to complain.

I don't like DST for the following reasons:

1) Certain mods that I like for DS are not in DST.

2) Certain changes that have been made to balance multiplayer I don't like at all (in particular Woody and Willow changes)

3) I don't like the rollback feature. 

[Faintly Macabre]

7 minutes ago, TheKingofSquirrels said:

I don't like DST for the following reasons:

1) Certain mods that I like for DS are not in DST.

2) Certain changes that have been made to balance multiplayer I don't like at all (in particular Woody and Willow changes)

3) I don't like the rollback feature. 

I'm not telling you to like DST, I'm telling you to play it as close to single-player as you can since that seems to be your complaint. And just... don't rollback. It's so incredibly simple.

[RyanandLink]

Oh boi...

16 hours ago, TheKingofSquirrels said:

Most of the players that show up on the "Strictly Non Profesional PVP" servers are part of this group of cheaters, players such as Flappy (can't remember his full name) and SummerScorcher are cheating.

Look mom that's me!!

Anyways, why don't you turn it off yourself xd
I put the exact command in the chat of that session for you to use. There's also a client-side mod you can download called "No More Lag", which does the command-process for you so you don't have to keep typing it everytime you join a server/go into caves. Anyone can use it, be it with the mod or manual typing, and I was actually a little surprised you didn't have it off if you knew about it. 
 

[FappyGilmore]

it's FappyGilmore not Flappy.

[rezecib]

2 hours ago, RyanandLink said:

Anyways, why don't you turn it off yourself xd

If I read his rant correctly, he does have it off. He's complaining about the otherwise impossible moves being executed by other players with prediction on, which is a real problem in PvP right now. See my explanation...

Apparently not, didn't see his new edit until now. Well, now it's just cute.

[Michi01]

So people have pretty much explained why having movement prediction enabled can be annoying. When movement prediction is disabled one can always see where exactly their character is and when it's enabled on servers with high ping one sometimes gets hit by things that don't even seem close. For those reasons I always have movement prediction disabled. (Ignoring the side effect of being almost invincible towards people with movement prediction enabled) I think that disabling movement prediction is somewhat necessary for PvP so one can see where exactly their character is. Slight lag resulting from movement prediction is mostly okay in PvE because most things either attack slowly or do low enough damage for tanking but players can do high damage and attack fast and they also don't attack in patterns so it's important that you know where exactly your character is. A lot of people actually tell others when they notice that they have movement prediction enabled (in fact apparently Ryan told you, so why are you even complaining that he "cheated" when you could've disabled it?). I don't like that people that don't know about movement prediction have a disadvantage in PvP and I think it should either be disabled by default on PvP servers or be an option in the settings or they should try to find a way to remove the invincibility against people with movement prediction enabled.

Also as other people mentioned it does seem like you are searching for things to complain about. You are complaining that Klei never listens to you and it seems like you are also saying that that was the reason for your rage earlier but maybe the problem isn't that "Klei never listens", maybe the changes you keep suggesting aren't as necessary as you always assume they are.

[TheKingofSquirrels]

2 hours ago, FappyGilmore said:

it's FappyGilmore not Flappy.

Stop cheating?

Trying fighting without that cheat, see how you fare? LOL get good.

3 hours ago, RyanandLink said:

Oh boi...

Look mom that's me!!

Anyways, why don't you turn it off yourself xd
I put the exact command in the chat of that session for you to use. There's also a client-side mod you can download called "No More Lag", which does the command-process for you so you don't have to keep typing it everytime you join a server/go into caves. Anyone can use it, be it with the mod or manual typing, and I was actually a little surprised you didn't have it off if you knew about it. 
 

3 hours ago, RyanandLink said:

 

Again, I don't want to cheat. I don't want to be THAT guy that can kill people by being invulnerable. 

1 hour ago, rezecib said:

If I read his rant correctly, he does have it off. He's complaining about the otherwise impossible moves being executed by other players with prediction on, which is a real problem in PvP right now. See my explanation...

Apparently not, didn't see his new edit until now. Well, now it's just cute.

What are you on about? Explain

1 hour ago, Michi01 said:

 I don't like that people that don't know about movement prediction have a disadvantage in PvP and I think it should either be disabled by default on PvP servers or be an option in the settings or they should try to find a way to remove the invincibility against people with movement prediction enabled.

Also as other people mentioned it does seem like you are searching for things to complain about. You are complaining that Klei never listens to you and it seems like you are also saying that that was the reason for your rage earlier but maybe the problem isn't that "Klei never listens", maybe the changes you keep suggesting aren't as necessary as you always assume they are.

As for the the part, yes I completely agree, thank you.

As for the second, it makes the game unplayable. So...but whatever. Maybe skins is more ******* important right?

[Michi01]

8 minutes ago, TheKingofSquirrels said:

Again, I don't want to cheat. I don't want to be THAT guy that can kill people by being invulnerable. 

You're not invulnerable if the other person has movement prediction disabled as well

[TheKingofSquirrels]

3 minutes ago, Michi01 said:

You're not invulnerable if the other person has movement prediction disabled as well

But they might not, and if they don't, then they don't stand a chance.

I won't be a cheater like FappyGilmore. 

[TheKingofSquirrels]

4 hours ago, FappyGilmore said:

it's FappyGilmore not Flappy.

But seriously, stop cheating, it's so lame. Get some skills? Get legit good?

[YesterdaysMindr]

I... what.

[FappyGilmore]

1 hour ago, TheKingofSquirrels said:

Stop cheating?

Trying fighting without that cheat, see how you fare? LOL get good.

Again, I don't want to cheat. I don't want to be THAT guy that can kill people by being invulnerable. 

What are you on about? Explain

As for the the part, yes I completely agree, thank you.

As for the second, it makes the game unplayable. So...but whatever. Maybe skins is more ******* important right?

have u tried not being bad at video games