TheTraditionalGentleman Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 It's that time of the year again. I've been trying to piece what I can about Woodie together, and finally think I know something solid about his backstory. Obviously this is just a theory, but then again, isn't most of what we assume in DS theory? Where to begin . . . We'll start with Woodie and Maxwell. When Woodie examines Maxwell on the throne, he'll say something akin to "Why does he hate me" (or so I've heard). So why does Maxwell hate Woodie? Maxwell has some connection to all the characters, but what about our kind of creepy lumberjack? I believe the connection is Charlie. In the William Carter Puzzles, after Charlie finds Maxwell's "study" she leaves a note saying that they should go visit her sister at the cabin up in BC. What if her sister was named Lucy? Until DST we had no way of knowing if Lucy's voice was in Woodie's head, or if she really spoke. Now, however, we can see that she does indeed talk. If anyone other than Woodie tries to pick her up, she will slip out of their hand and say something, be it "I don't know you", "Stranger danger" or maybe others that I haven't seen. So we know that she can actually speak. Now, going back to Maxwell and Charlie visiting her sister in BC. Assuming it was Lucy, let's say that she was married to Woodie. Woodie is kind of gruff, but he seems like a friendly sort. I'm sure that he would have tried to be hospitable to Max and Charlie. If Charlie and Lucy spent time catching up and just chatting, I'm sure Woodie tried to find things to do with Maxwell. Maybe hiking, trapping, fishing, etc. Woodsy things. But that's where the problem could lie. Maxwell, probably already on edge because of the increasing addiction to Them would probably not want to go into the middle of the woods, but he wanted to put Charlie at ease or humor her or whatever the reason was. The point is, Woodie is basically the anti-Maxwell. He LOVES camping, hiking, the outdoors, etc. He likes simple things. To quote, "You can't make a coffee table out of gold. Well, maybe you can, but you shouldn't." (Woodie). Maxwell, on the other hand, obviously disdains (that's putting it lightly) nature and would much rather be in a city. Going along with Woodie on all these outdoorsy activities, he probably began to dislike Woodie and even despise him. No doubt he might see Woodie as simple and uncultured. He may have thought "He's like a giant beaver" when looking at Woodie's gaped teeth (this will come in later). So, skip forward. Charlie and Maxwell said their goodbyes, left. Maxwell's last act occurred, he and Charlie are taken by Them. Back to Woodie and Lucy. In my theory, somehow, Lucy died. Personally, I think she got sick. What of doesn't matter, but whatever it was it was incurably and she died. Now, as gruff as Woodie is, I feel like the only person he would have been sweet to and easy with would have been Lucy. His comments like "Lucy would like this" when picking flowers or "I only sing for Lucy" when examining a pan flute, lead me to believe that he really loved his wife. When she died, it would have crushed him. When Maxwell was going around and collecting people for the island, he obviously picked Woodie. I think that everyone was lured by Maxwell by what they most wanted. When talking to Woodie, Woodie might have said "I just want to hear her voice again" to Maxwell. As we've seen, Maxwell has a habit of twisting whatever it is that the characters want. He may have made Woodie's ax talk and sound like Lucy (whether or not it is the actually Lucy I have no idea) and in an attempt to cope with her death Woodie just accepted the ax as Lucy. Because if the ax was Lucy, then Lucy couldn't have actually died, right? And with a final touch of Maxwell flavored evil, Maxwell cursed Woodie with beaver lycanthropy (remember him thinking "He's like a giant beaver"?). And that, my friends, is my theory of Woodie and Lucy's backstory, how Maxwell and Woodie are related, and why Woodie has a talking ax and is a werebeaver. I know that there are some assumptions that I'm making, but I feel like they all make sense, and I've tried to present them in the best way that I can. So what do you all think? Does this sound reasonable to you? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlesienne Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 ...Are you a fellow writer? Because this, Sir, is one of the wildest, most delicious headcanons I know of as far as this game is concerned. Thank you so much for sharing this. Got more please? Also, Woodie is precious. But I digress. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-767786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhuzha Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 It does sound reasonably possible. Also, the mental image of Woodie dragging Maxwell (who's wearing his best suit and some shiny, but uncomfortable shoes) out on a Great Canadian Wilderness Adventure is infinitely amusing, so thank you for that. Although, my personal piece of cranial artillery is that Woodie was a just simple lumberjack with no relations to Maxwell, having a quiet life, sleeping all night, working all day, all that jazz, until one day he got the werebeaver curse (to me, it seems like some sort of magic also exists in the "normal" world; I mean, Maxwell could use Codex Umbra's magic outside of DS world, and Webber's father apparently was an alchemist). Fearing for the lives and safety of his loved ones, mostly for his dear wife Lucy, he decided to become a hermit until he finds a cure. During his self-imposed exile he became a bit loopy and started talking to his axe, as it was is wife. Some time later Woodie got contacted by Maxwell, perhaps through the radio he bought to stave off the boredom and loneliness. Maxwell lured him into DS world by promising him that he'll never hurt another human being and that he and Lucy will become inseparable, or something like that. And then either Maxwell made Woodie's delusions reality as a cruel joke, or the magic of DS world made the axe enchanted and gave it the personality, Woodie has attributed to it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-767807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNamedChris Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Couldn't have written it better than @Kevin himself. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-767851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTraditionalGentleman Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 5 hours ago, Arlesienne said: ...Are you a fellow writer? Because this, Sir, is one of the wildest, most delicious headcanons I know of as far as this game is concerned. Thank you so much for sharing this. Got more please? Also, Woodie is precious. But I digress. Thank you! I'm glad you liked it I have worked on some writings in the past (not Don't Starve though), but have trouble actually finishing anything. I've been trying to figure out Woodie's backstory ever since I first unlocked him. I'm personally a woodsy kind of guy, and so he's one of my favorite characters by default. Maybe I'll look at doing little stories when I post my theories on character backgrounds now XD 4 hours ago, Zhuzha said: It does sound reasonably possible. Also, the mental image of Woodie dragging Maxwell (who's wearing his best suit and some shiny, but uncomfortable shoes) out on a Great Canadian Wilderness Adventure is infinitely amusing, so thank you for that. Although, my personal piece of cranial artillery is that Woodie was a just simple lumberjack with no relations to Maxwell, having a quiet life, sleeping all night, working all day, all that jazz, until one day he got the werebeaver curse (to me, it seems like some sort of magic also exists in the "normal" world; I mean, Maxwell could use Codex Umbra's magic outside of DS world, and Webber's father apparently was an alchemist). Fearing for the lives and safety of his loved ones, mostly for his dear wife Lucy, he decided to become a hermit until he finds a cure. During his self-imposed exile he became a bit loopy and started talking to his axe, as it was is wife. Some time later Woodie got contacted by Maxwell, perhaps through the radio he bought to stave off the boredom and loneliness. Maxwell lured him into DS world by promising him that he'll never hurt another human being and that he and Lucy will become inseparable, or something like that. And then either Maxwell made Woodie's delusions reality as a cruel joke, or the magic of DS world made the axe enchanted and gave it the personality, Woodie has attributed to it. I thought it would be pretty funny too, but I personally love the way you phrased that XD Maxwell and Woodie on The Great Canadian Wilderness Adventure Your theory does sound plausible too. And yours incorporates the radio (which didn't all the characters have the radios? I read that somewhere in the forums before). I guess there must be magic in the normal world in Don't Starve. I like your theory though. I think it makes a lot of reasonable sense. I wonder if we'll ever find out for sure though . . . Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-767959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTraditionalGentleman Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 3 hours ago, Chris1488 said: Couldn't have written it better than @Kevin himself. You, my good sir, flatter me Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-767964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWesternWilson Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 This is incredibly plausible as far as I am concerned. I mean, Charlie did mention how the house up in BC was a wood-constructed house iirc, so it could've been something he made for Lucy --- who, we can but presume from what he says ("I love Lucy!") is his wife, or at least their fiancé. As for the rest of it, yeah. I could see how it could work. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-768025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlesienne Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 4 hours ago, TheTraditionalGentleman said: Thank you! I'm glad you liked it I have worked on some writings in the past (not Don't Starve though), but have trouble actually finishing anything. I've been trying to figure out Woodie's backstory ever since I first unlocked him. I'm personally a woodsy kind of guy, and so he's one of my favorite characters by default. Maybe I'll look at doing little stories when I post my theories on character backgrounds now XD Definitely give it a go there. I sense that certain kind of attunement. About Lucy, why does everybody insist on her being Woodie's wife or fiancée? He could have simply fallen in love without reciprocation (poor Woodie!). Or maybe she was playing hard to get and they misunderstood each other? I am referring to the quotes Lucy the axe has if dropped, all this apologising for teasing and bickering. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-768043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWesternWilson Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Actually, wait... Did it ever explicitly say they visited BC? I thought it was 'after our last show' or something... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-773994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaterion Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 1 hour ago, WildWesternWilson said: Actually, wait... Did it ever explicitly say they visited BC? I thought it was 'after our last show' or something... yea I thought they were going to but things went bad? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-774021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWesternWilson Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 55 minutes ago, Aquaterion said: yea I thought they were going to but things went bad? I'll have to check. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-774033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebaggiesthead Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-774038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTraditionalGentleman Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 On 5/20/2016 at 3:23 AM, WildWesternWilson said: Actually, wait... Did it ever explicitly say they visited BC? I thought it was 'after our last show' or something... Hmmm. . . now that you mention it, I'm not sure. I thought they visited BC before Maxwell's Last Act takes place, but I guess I don't actually know. Is the letter time-stamped? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-775265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWesternWilson Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 On 23 May 2016 at 3:22 PM, TheTraditionalGentleman said: Hmmm. . . now that you mention it, I'm not sure. I thought they visited BC before Maxwell's Last Act takes place, but I guess I don't actually know. Is the letter time-stamped? Hum. Must go check. To be honest, I hope I'm wrong, because I like the theory Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67079-my-latest-theory-of-woodie/#findComment-776560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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