Guess on the coming 'Trade INN'

[RalphKastro]

TF2 (yes, I know)

TF2 is becoming the new "Minecraft has a..." in these forums... 

[CaptainFun]

TF2 is becoming the new "Minecraft has a..." in these forums... 

I couldn't help it. I'm sorry.

 

I'm not sorry.

[RalphKastro]

@CaptainFun, It's okay. Another game that I have to pretend I don't know(and really like) just to annoy people.

[Exhu]

If you don't like trading or you have greedy friends doesn't mean trading should be x'd out because of you. From i can see people enjoy trading and some people that doesn't care about those items getting even $$ for their FREE items so they can use it to buy SW for example or other games so it goes back to developers.

 

And no trading doesn't got old ... maybe just for you. Also i bet you want Wigfrid GOH + armor ... don't tell me that you can't trade that with your backpacks for example? You already have more elegant items than 99% of players!

 

Also you have ENORMOUS inventory and there is nothing that you can "actually" use in game? Sorry but seems to me that you are greedy. How about get some of your 23904732 dupe commons from bad trades to new players? You don't care about those items as we can see and new players will be really happy to have 1 shirt and 1 pants to wear until they get something from game. I know because i did this couple times!

 

 

Every time I've seen you try to make a counter post to people, it always turns into an attack. Yea, I DO want the Wigfrid GoH and Armor. Why? Because I main her, duh. That doesn't make me greedy. I offered someone like 20+ items for a distinguished before, and they still declined. Also me having ONE elegant doesn't make me have more than 99% of people.... you literally just pulled a number out of your butt with that one.

 

Anyway, I am allowed to state my opinion, which is what I was doing, and that is that I would totally be okay with not having to haggle with other players as often/anymore to get items I want to USE in game, not hold over other peoples' heads that I have them and they don't. So I am waiting for the Trade Inn to go live and looking forward to it.

[t0panka]

Every time I've seen you try to make a counter post to people, it always turns into an attack. Yea, I DO want the Wigfrid GoH and Armor. Why? Because I main her, duh. That doesn't make me greedy. I offered someone like 20+ items for a distinguished before, and they still declined. Also me having ONE elegant doesn't make me have more than 99% of people.... you literally just pulled a number out of your butt with that one.

 

Anyway, I am allowed to state my opinion, which is what I was doing, and that is that I would totally be okay with not having to haggle with other players as often/anymore to get items I want to USE in game, not hold over other peoples' heads that I have them and they don't. So I am waiting for the Trade Inn to go live and looking forward to it.

I didn't want my post(s) look like attack. English is my third language + not that good and maybe it looks like that just because i am writing it as it is without pretty words and i see that was mistake. If you feel attacked i apologise and i am sorry and it wont happen again.

 

Wigfrid is easiest character in DS/DST (imo even easier than full WX) and thats why tons of people play as her and obviously Wigfrid GOH is most wanted item for now. I have seen crazy amount of $ or 2 elegants (2 heads and also 2 backpacks) declined for Wigfrid GOH so it is impossible to get

 

"99%" is from experience and 3298473298 inventories i have seen and you had few more elegants before if i remember correctly so i was counting 3 elegants to that number .)

 

20+ items for distinguished? How about trade 5-6 commons for classy then 5-6 classy for spiffy and ..... This will work probably in TRADING INN like this too. Nobody will trade tons of low level items for best items in game right? Would you trade your elegant backpack for those items you offered someone for elegant?

 

Also GOH heads are out just for a month or so? Why everyone expects to get GOH drop right after Klei add them in game? And about people getting elegant first week of playing i think it is because Klei boosted the chance since they put skins OUT of beta beta for everyone because we were TESTING those skins/drops for Klei and maybe they saw that better drop chance is needed and thats why they are dropping more?

 

We should thank Klei that they let us keep items from testing branch and didnt take them away so everyone would start with 0

 

Problem with people that want those heads RIGHT NOW and saying they don't want anything else ever is that when Klei adds more heads (whatever it is it will be better than these) everyone will dump their GOHs and will want those new heads .... again RIGHT NOW. This already happened with elegant backpacks. Everyone was crazy about them and now even 2 backpacks cant assure you GOH trade. SO imagine when Klei will add INVISIBLE WILSON! People will trade 3 heads (they wanted so much before) for that one or others (i guess this will be halloween style so others will be amazing too) because these GOHs doesnt look that good in game IMO.

 

But hey .... i try to get that Wigfrid GOH and when i do i will trade it for your inventory as an apology ok?

[JohnConnor]

uhh, when I started the thread, I just want to hear the ideas from you guys who care about the game and hopefully find something that sounds to be viable.

 

Anyway, I think there are only a few degrees of freedom regarding the nature of the coming trading inn:

1. Who you trade with, other uses or system?

2. Will you get deterministic or random item if you trade with system?

3. Is there some measure to limit the trading frequency if you trade with system, i.e. a time-based limit or a trading fee every time.

 

BTW, I came up with this idea last night.

A trading 'pot': A trading system that allows you to trade with the system and you can get deterministic item. So, each common is assigned a system price of 1 and each classy 2, each spiffy 4...When you trade with the system, you lose half of the price of your item, i.e. 4 commons give you 2 'coins', with which you can buy any classy.

 

A little off the topic, I also have some ideas about new skins. Dragonfly wing, rabbit hat, frog hat, worm claw glove, tree clothes, transparent clothes, shining clothes at night. 

[Naipseht]

uhh, when I started the thread, I just want to hear the ideas from you guys who care about the game and hopefully find something that sounds to be viable.

 

Anyway, I think there are only a few degrees of freedom regarding the nature the coming trading inn:

1. Who you trade with, other uses or system?

2. Will you get deterministic or random item if you trade with system?

3. Is there some measure to limit the trading frequency if you trade with system, i.e. a limit of based on time or a trading fee every time.

 

BTW, I came up with this idea last night.

A trading 'pot': A trading system that allows you to trade with the system and you can get deterministic item. So, each common is assigned a system price of 1 and each classy 2, each spiffy 4...When you trade with the system, you lose half of the price of your item, i.e. 4 commons give you 2 'coins', with which you can buy any classy.

 

A little off the topic, I also have some ideas about new skins. Dragonfly wing, rabbit hat, frog hat, worm claw glove, tree clothes, transparent clothes, shining clothes at night.

 

The process could be semi-random. In other words, the items you put into the system are not the same items that come out. However, this could lead to farming. Assuming you owned every classy or spiffy except one (say, you own all backpacks so you would get a guaranteed Trench Coat), you could guarantee creation of a specific item and then trade it away to continue the cycle. For this reason, I think it is best if the process is completely random despite the occasional rage of receiving a duplicate item.

 

t0panka and Exhu. I don't care who is right, I don't care who is attacking whom or who is being greedy. Take it to PM. You're clogging up the discussion like a zucchini in a toilet.

[JohnConnor]

 

The process could be semi-random. In other words, the items you put into the system are not the same items that come out. However, this could lead to farming. Assuming you owned every classy or spiffy except one (say, you own all backpacks so you would get a guaranteed Trench Coat), you could guarantee creation of a specific item and then trade it away to continue the cycle. For this reason, I think it is best if the process is completely random despite the occasional rage of receiving a duplicate item.

 

t0panka and Exhu. I don't care who is right, I don't care who is attacking whom or who is being greedy. Take it to PM. You're clogging up the discussion like a zucchini in a toilet.

But doesn't being random mean that you can still get dupes? And I assume by random, you are also saying that the trading frequency should be limited, because otherwise you can trade 100 times until you get the item you want, in which case the 'random' feature can easily be bypassed.

[Naipseht]

But doesn't being random mean that you can still get dupes? And I assume by random, you are also saying that the trading frequency should be limited, because otherwise you can trade 100 times until you get the item you want, in which case the 'random' feature can easily be bypassed.

 

The system would always be a loss for the player. For example, trading in two Common items for one random Common in return. You would most likely receive something new, but you would be spending a larger "value" than you get in return.

 

[JohnConnor]

The system would always be a loss for the player. For example, trading in two Common items for one random Common in return. You would most likely receive something new, but you would be spending a larger "value" than you get in return.

 

 

 

I am fine with the losing of value during every trading and I believe most are as well.

 

And also, I think it has to be more than just 2 common for 1 common. It should be that you can change your clothes to in-game currency or something like that so that it opens a door for low-tier to high-tier.