Sporb Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 In a linear forum, I fail to see any benefits to having post disliking available. All it does is open up the possibility for trolling and terrible revenge-based mass-negative-rating antics. Trying to fit a negative rating system into a linear forum just removes the benefits of both systems and leaves you with literally nothing. The reputation system no longer has a purpose. I would say that being able to dislike posts would have similar positive effects to being able to like them. Forumers can express themselves without clogging things up with unnecessary posts that could potentially start fights. Well, I would say that if I actually thought that expressing myself was worth decreasing someone else's rep. EDIT: And now I'll probably forget about this post entirely because I won't be notified if it's ever liked/disliked and I rarely venture outside the modding forums. No you won't. I quoted it. Also, I think something is wrong if I'm starting to consider posting just to say that I liked someone's post or to ask who it was that liked my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 All I know about my rep is that it keeps going up and I have no idea where it's coming from.I'd prefer if it went back to its roots : No rep without a comment to follow.The way it's now is like reddit, where who voted what is not public knowledge. Thing is that on reddit it's used to press down useless comments and push up useful ones. That doesn't apply to the forums... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARamblingSpider Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I'm mostly ticked off because I can't even see what rep I gave out at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplex Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I'd prefer if it went back to its roots : No rep without a comment to follow. I don't know, I liked the cleanliness of just sending a "simplex liked a post you made". There was some elegance to just expressing an intention in its own right without making a statement about it. But I'd be fine with that. I'd be fine with almost any system that reincorporates notifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARamblingSpider Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Welp looks like disliking is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Welp looks like disliking is gone.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC75aU47GRk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Yep, back to the standard for these types of forum systems: Likes. I think it was the only sensible thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 Hooray!!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 They removed the reputation tab on profiles. I also wonder if you get notifications for likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbeetle Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I'm gonna be that guy and say I miss dislikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Letter W Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Ah, I was wondering why there were so many changes going on to the rep system. I guess it was just too much of a hassle so they went back to the tried and true one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeek Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I would say that being able to dislike posts would have similar positive effects to being able to like them. Forumers can express themselves without clogging things up with unnecessary posts that could potentially start fights. Well, I would say that if I actually thought that expressing myself was worth decreasing someone else's rep. No you won't. I quoted it. Not that it matters anymore, but post dislikes, while also potentially cutting down on unnecessary posts, are much harder to moderate (see: the reason why dislikes were ultimately removed, probably). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon_Blue Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Not that it matters anymore, but post dislikes, while also potentially cutting down on unnecessary posts, are much harder to moderate (see: the reason why dislikes were ultimately removed, probably). They were probably removed because I didn't like Silent's base and it turned into 2 pages of him defending mods against Teo and I. I was unaware at the time you could even see who did what to the rep. I don't like the new thumbs-up only system, since there's no way to show someone a post sucks without fueling a fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 They were probably removed because I didn't like Silent's base and it turned into 2 pages of him defending mods against Teo and I. I was unaware at the time you could even see who did what to the rep. I don't like the new thumbs-up only system, since there's no way to show someone a post sucks without fueling a fire.What they taught me in school about fire is to stay low and don't try to be a hero. And get help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon_Blue Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 What they taught me in school about fire is to stay low and don't try to be a hero. And get help. I was always taught to stop, drop, and roll. In retrospect, I think they put too much emphasis on that because I have only been on fire twice. I have not stopped, dropped, or rolled in either case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 I was always taught to stop, drop, and roll. In retrospect, I think they put too much emphasis on that because I have only been on fire twice. I have not stopped, dropped, or rolled in either case.O-O I meant internet argument fires...And you stop drop and roll if you are on fire, if your house is on fire stay low, because it's always the smoke that gets you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplex Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Rep notifications are back! While I'd like to see dislikes back at some time, in some form, I'm just glad the reputation system is meaningful again. Even if dislikes never see the light of day again, I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 They were probably removed because I didn't like Silent's base and it turned into 2 pages of him defending mods against Teo and I. I was unaware at the time you could even see who did what to the rep. I don't like the new thumbs-up only system, since there's no way to show someone a post sucks without fueling a fire.Yeah, I do believe that if Silent didn't care so much about meaningless internet points then we'd still have dislikes. But I don't think that was the only reason. More like a "last straw".And for the record I wasn't arguing about mods. Just the stupid behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 You know, I actually think I'd be more comfortable with dislikes if they weren't tied to rep at all. I know I get a sort of grim satisfaction from rating threads where the conversation sucks with 1 star. Even though it doesn't do anything. So this means I should probably stop obsessively checking my like count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Cynicist Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Instead of liking individual posts, why not just have an option to "respect" a user, which appears on their profile. People won't obsess over like count anymore, plus you can easily tell how likeable/respectable a person is by referring to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplex Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Instead of liking individual posts, why not just have an option to "respect" a user, which appears on their profile. People won't obsess over like count anymore, plus you can easily tell how likeable/respectable a person is by referring to this. That would make the rep system work simply as an ego-rubbing framework. Liking posts has a purpose, which is notifying the other person you liked their post. I'd rather have no rep count at all than having rep be given on a profile/user basis instead of based on actual content produced by the user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Cynicist Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 That would make the rep system work simply as an ego-rubbing framework.Liking posts has a purpose, which is notifying the other person you liked their post. I'd rather have no rep count at all than having rep be given on a profile/user basis instead of based on actual content produced by the user. Well, I don't really see the harm in having a one-time option to recognize someone as respectable. If later on your opinion changes, you can simply retract it. It is nice to see what people like, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Well, I don't really see the harm in having a one-time option to recognize someone as respectable. Isn't that kinda what the stars on a member's profile are for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplex Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Well, I don't really see the harm in having a one-time option to recognize someone as respectable. If later on your opinion changes, you can simply retract it. It is nice to see what people like, though. I wouldn't object to such a "respect" system, as long as it's not a replacement for Likes, but an addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Cynicist Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Isn't that kinda what the stars on a member's profile are for? People's votes affect your votes. This is an independent system that represents you and you only. I wouldn't object to such a "respect" system, as long as it's not a replacement for Likes, but an addition. Sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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