Your Most Useless Craftable Items?

[23rd]

My brain said "Beekeeper Hat" before I even finished reading the title. Now that I've read the title and OP, I'm gonna go with that as my final answer.

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[Castaway on the Moon]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=173244693

 

If you build cobblestone road around your beeboxes and also use a walking cane you can pretty much harvest all 10 boxes in less than a minute by doing back and forth drive-bys

 

yes this mod ofc makes it easier but it's a bit unrealistic IMO

 

besides the dmg from bees is so minimal with 80% reduction from pig helmets if youre slow enough to get hit maybe 1-2 times a day

[23rd]

If you build cobblestone road around your beeboxes and also use a walking cane you can pretty much harvest all 10 boxes in less than a minute by doing back and forth drive-bys

 

yes this mod ofc makes it easier but it's a bit unrealistic IMO

 

besides the dmg from bees is so minimal with 80% reduction from pig helmets if youre slow enough to get hit maybe 1-2 times a day

I always thought this mod was one of the more realistic ones, like Charcoal Burner which lets you harvest charcoal and ash from fire pits, and Break The Ice which lets you break frozen ponds open in Winter with a pickaxe. The benefit is minimal, but it's the kind of thing that helps add immersion to the game because it just seems like something that makes sense. I wouldn't want to waste the durability on my pig helmets just from harvesting bee boxes, and building cobblestone roads just for honey collection seem a bit labor intensive.

[Castaway on the Moon]

I always thought this mod was one of the more realistic ones, like Charcoal Burner which lets you harvest charcoal and ash from fire pits, and Break The Ice which lets you break frozen ponds open in Winter with a pickaxe. The benefit is minimal, but it's the kind of thing that helps add immersion to the game because it just seems like something that makes sense. I wouldn't want to waste the durability on my pig helmets just from harvesting bee boxes, and building cobblestone roads just for honey collection seem a bit labor intensive.

 

I guess you're right. I might just give it a try - do they just not attack you at all?

[Castaway on the Moon]

*WARNING*

The following post doesn't try to be aggressive.Just putting this here because it kinda sounds like I was trying to

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If you don't want to decorate your base it's your decission,I gave use to almost all the "useless" items by using them as furniture(even when that doesn't benefit me in any way),so I gave them an use.In fact,I loved the addition of a simply aesthetical item such as the potted fern.So,even if it hasn't an use for you,for me it has one.Different playstyles,different points of view.

 

Yeah man for sure.

 

I use useful and less useful items as decoration around my camp too, why not? Why is it only important to keep your "character" sane and not yourself haha it makes me happy. I line up beefalo horns... I keep the gnomes in my garden, spread fireflies all around the border of my camp for nighttime. I also make the turf and such why else would you. Why else would people build all these technically useless walls.

[23rd]

I guess you're right. I might just give it a try - do they just not attack you at all?

As long as you're wearing the hat you can harvest whenever, they'll just stay in the box.

[Castaway on the Moon]

I don't make cobblestone I usually just steal it wherever I see it on the map.There's a lot of it randomly around those inland lakes you see.

[can't starve]

Most useless item-

Powcake

[TeoSS69]

Most useless item-

Powcake

Does it count if it's intended?

[Cynical Cynicist]

My brain said "Beekeeper Hat" before I even finished reading the title. Now that I've read the title and OP, I'm gonna go with that as my final answer.

 

I beg to differ. You're gonna end up with a huge excess of silk later on in the game, which will be put to good use with the beekeeper hat (8 silk + 1 rope). I usually burn through the full durability of one beekeeper hat with a single harvest because I have a lot of bee boxes providing me with a large supply of honey which lasts even longer with an icebox. This way, you won't have to waste a football helmet or any other combat-oriented armor.

[Castaway on the Moon]

I beg to differ. You're gonna end up with a huge excess of silk later on in the game, which will be put to good use with the beekeeper hat (8 silk + 1 rope). I usually burn through the full durability of one beekeeper hat with a single harvest because I have a lot of bee boxes providing me with a large supply of honey which lasts even longer with an icebox. This way, you won't have to waste a football helmet or any other combat-oriented armor.

 

A single harvest? How in the world is this happening lol do you just stand there or something.

 

I swear I get hit 1-2 times maximum per harvest and not at all if I'm careful.

[Craig_Perry]

I beg to differ. You're gonna end up with a huge excess of silk later on in the game, which will be put to good use with the beekeeper hat (8 silk + 1 rope). I usually burn through the full durability of one beekeeper hat with a single harvest because I have a lot of bee boxes providing me with a large supply of honey which lasts even longer with an icebox. This way, you won't have to waste a football helmet or any other combat-oriented armor.

 

 

A single harvest? How in the world is this happening lol do you just stand there or something.

 

I swear I get hit 1-2 times maximum per harvest and not at all if I'm careful.

might want to re-check that one, with 3 or so boxes  yeah 1-2 hits but with lots (which Im assuming is around 10) 

[TeoSS69]

I use the beekeeper hat too. No time to dance around.

[Castaway on the Moon]

might want to re-check that one, with 3 or so boxes  yeah 1-2 hits but with lots (which Im assuming is around 10) 

 

I have 10 yes... so? Pick from left, then 2 over, then 2 over, then loop around. It's about speed.

 

I use the beekeeper hat too. No time to dance around.

 

Walking cane + cobblestone. This saves more time than endlessly crafting hats actually.

 

It's OK if you're unable to do it, it's not for everyone. It must just be that my hand-eye coordination is as good as your foot-in-mouth coordination.

[TeoSS69]

It's OK if you're unable to do it, it's not for everyone. It must just be that my hand-eye coordination is as good as your foot-in-mouth coordination.

Why so hostile? Does it make you lose sleep if others don't play the way you do? 

[23rd]

I have 10 yes... so? Pick from left, then 2 over, then 2 over, then loop around. It's about speed.

 

 

Walking cane + cobblestone. This saves more time than endlessly crafting hats actually.

It's an unnecessary amount of effort for every harvest. How much time are you really saving with this method? I can't imagine you manage your time so well that the spare second or two doesn't just go to waste anyways.

 

It's OK if you're unable to do it, it's not for everyone. It must just be that my hand-eye coordination is as good as your foot-in-mouth coordination.

When you're getting condescending because people don't ascribe to your, ahem, unique play style you're not going to win any pats on the back.

[TeoSS69]

When you're getting condescending because people don't ascribe to your, ahem, unique play style you're not going to win any pats on the back.

Fun thing is that i have yet to see some actually good advice from him that didn't come from the comment sections of the wiki.

[Castaway on the Moon]

It's an unnecessary amount of effort for every harvest. How much time are you really saving with this method? I can't imagine you manage your time so well that the spare second or two doesn't just go to waste anyways.

 

When you're getting condescending because people don't ascribe to your, ahem, unique play style you're not going to win any pats on the back.

 

I'm not looking for pats I'm just defending the gamer's gaming style vs theover-crafter style. I'm a bit unsure about how you guys actually manage to survive ruins long enough to fight the guardian with 6 worms on your back if you're already having trouble harvesting beeboxes.

 

For as long as I've been on this forum now (about 3 days) I've been nothing but attacked for everything I say without any further explanation than "you're wrong". I concede that I was mistaken about the Lazy Explorer doing 10 dmg since I was unaware and never even used it as a weapon. I believed the Wikia when it said it couldn't be used as one and have since commented on there to correct them. Furthermore, I found out - thanks to the help of Craig_Perry that one of the mods I was using secretly changed the healing stat from healing salves form MED to HUGE (without any mention in the description) and I was very upset to find that out since it has led to many misunderstandings.

 

Other than that I see no reason for which my advice is countered with unfounded criticism and attacks that "I have no idea what I'm talking about."

 

I've been advocating many strategies such as forgoing wall-building in favor of tooth-trap fields which are actually a more recent strategy than the obsolete panic rooms. The 30-50 tooth trap minefield is an extremely effective, safe and low-risk method for dealing with both ice and fire hounds. I feel it is my duty as well as the duty of other seasoned players to allow such information to be accessible to new players who are really struggling to deal with later game challenged such as the large waves of hounds.

 

Many people as well don't have access to as much silk as some others, so I do not understand why it is considered wrong to encourage them to harvest bees with a bit of skill which requires very minimal crafting. I honestly only get 0-2 times per harvest of 10 boxes and it's not to say I'm some kind of finger-dancing genius to do this. It takes about 1 minute yes. Who doesn't have 1 minute to get 60 honey? It's woth it.

 

If someone would tell me how to post screenshots on here I could illustrate these examples with backed up screenshot evidence. I am here to enlighten people on such small improvements because they are what helped me to enjoy the game as much as I do now. Regrettably I have been misinformed a few times which has led me to provide false information and I certainly am not proud of the lazy explorer and healing salve misinformation.

Fun thing is that i have yet to see some actually good advice from him that didn't come from the comment sections of the wiki.

 

I'm the one that posted that comment on the wiki-- 

I didn't mention that because I figured you'd just disregard it on that basis alone like you've been doing so far for anything I post.

[TeoSS69]

I'm not looking for pats I'm just defending the gamer's gaming style vs theover-crafter style. I'm a bit unsure about how you guys actually manage to survive ruins long enough to fight the guardian with 6 worms on your back if you're already having trouble harvesting beeboxes.

 

For as long as I've been on this forum now (about 3 days) I've been nothing but attacked for everything I say without any further explanation than "you're wrong". I concede that I was mistaken about the Lazy Explorer doing 10 dmg since I was unaware and never even used it as a weapon. I believed the Wikia when it said it couldn't be used as one and have since commented on there to correct them. Furthermore, I found out - thanks to the help of Craig_Perry that one of the mods I was using secretly changed the healing stat from healing salves form MED to HUGE (without any mention in the description) and I was very upset to find that out since it has led to many misunderstandings.

 

Other than that I see no reason for which my advice is countered with unfounded criticism and attacks that "I have no idea what I'm talking about."

 

I've been advocating many strategies such as forgoing wall-building in favor of tooth-trap fields which are actually a more recent strategy than the obsolete panic rooms. The 30-50 tooth trap minefield is an extremely effective, safe and low-risk method for dealing with both ice and fire hounds. I feel it is my duty as well as the duty of other seasoned players to allow such information to be accessible to new players who are really struggling to deal with later game challenged such as the large waves of hounds.

 

Many people as well don't have access to as much silk as some others, so I do not understand why it is considered wrong to encourage them to harvest bees with a bit of skill which requires very minimal crafting. I honestly only get 0-2 times per harvest of 10 boxes and it's not to say I'm some kind of finger-dancing genius to do this. It takes about 1 minute yes. Who doesn't have 1 minute to get 60 honey? It's woth it.

 

If someone would tell me how to post screenshots on here I could illustrate these examples with backed up screenshot evidence. I am here to enlighten people on such small improvements because they are what helped me to enjoy the game as much as I do now. Regrettably I have been misinformed a few times which has led me to provide false information and I certainly am not proud of the lazy explorer and healing salve misinformation.

 

 

I'm the one that posted that comment on the wiki-- 

I didn't mention that because I figured you'd just disregard it on that basis alone like you've been doing so far for anything I post.

You're not the one defending a playstyle. We are. Your replies are not advice to players, they're condescending comments towards their playstyles. Since the "Show us your camp" thread where you said "You can safely laugh at people who build walls" i knew you were just some other smug a-hole who thinks he knows it all and you didn't deserve a respectful reply because yours wasn't respectful in the first place. But hey, i'm feeling in a nice mood now so let me throw down every single argument in your post.

What right do you have to label playstyles as "gamer's" and "over-crafter's" like one is better than the other. They're both good to the ones who plays it. Sure you like making 10 bee boxes and run around while harvesting them, and that's good for you. I instead don't have time to jump around kiting bees. I just wear my hat and walk in a straight line harvesting honey and then go do something else, and that's good for me. No need to bash me for it. I don't have trouble kiting bees to harvest a bee box. I just prefer tanking the damage since i'm gonna heal anyway and be done with it. So yeah, don't go saying nonsense to make yourself feel superior.

In both the Lazy Explorer and Salve's cases you were explained to why you were wrong yet you insisted with your "get you facts straight" and "do you guys realize the wikia is wrong". I apologize that you gave us the opinion that you had a thick skull and made us realize that we shouldn't even bother to give an argument to why you were wrong since you were gonna be delusional again.

The tooth trap fields of blood have been a known strategy to deal with everything for A LOOONG time now, so no need to act like you discovered it and "safely laugh ate people who build walls". Did it cross your mind that there are experience players out there that don't even need the blood field to deal with hounds and bosses, because they're so good that they can do so with other methods? For instance, i have a corridor of traps at my bases entrance. All i have to do is run to the front of my camp, wait for hounds to spawn and aggro me and kite them there. No biggie, no effort. In this case, your playstyle is the "over-crafter's" because i make a lot less traps and achieve the same result. So instead of advocating your playstyle like it's the single best, you should realize that are multiple ways to approach a problem that yield the same result.

Many people as well do have access to a lot more silk then others, so i don't understand why you consider wrong for them to share their preferred way to approach things. That's right. I shared my playstyle. Didn't encourage others to do it. Didn't even quote you. Yet you had to say "foot to mouth coordination". You had to be a jerk.

So in a nutshell. We (or at least I) have been rude  to you, because you have been rude to us. You get what you give. And that is why, dear COTM is why you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Castaway on the Moon]

The tooth trap fields of blood have been a known strategy to deal with everything for A LOOONG time now, so no need to act like you discovered it and "safely laugh ate people who build walls". Did it cross your mind that there are experience players out there that don't even need the blood field to deal with hounds and bosses, because they're so good that they can do so with other methods? For instance, i have a corridor of traps at my bases entrance. All i have to do is run to the front of my camp, wait for hounds to spawn and aggro me and kite them there. No biggie, no effort. In this case, your playstyle is the "over-crafter's" because i make a lot less traps and achieve the same result. So instead of advocating your playstyle like it's the single best, you should realize that are multiple ways to approach a problem that yield the same result.

 

Well, without counting the exact number it looks like you've got about 80 traps there. That's more than twice as many as I'm using. Not to mention the excessive amount of mining you had to do in order to get enough rocks to build all those unnecessary walls. My tooth trap field is a 4 second walk from my base where there is 0 risk of fire damage and what's more is I have a campfire, lamp, and the telelocator focus (for any kind of faraway emergency of in the event of a deerclops. in the center of it as well. It takes 30 traps and 5 seconds of walking for me to deal with max amount of hounds.

 

 

Anyhow, it seems we've reached an impasse. Clearly I'm not welcome and since you've all been here longer than I have, I will conced. I have no reason to be here, then, since you all seem to know things I thought I'd be able to contribute and you clearly don't welcome my input. I'll just stay out of the forums then. 

[23rd]

Anyhow, it seems we've reached an impasse. Clearly I'm not welcome and since you've all been here longer than I have, I will conced. I have no reason to be here, then, since you all seem to know things I thought I'd be able to contribute and you clearly don't welcome my input. I'll just stay out of the forums then. 

I'm sorry you've had such a sour experience with the forum. I hope this doesn't take away from the fun of Don't Starve in any way.

[TeoSS69]

Well, without counting the exact number it looks like you've got about 80 traps there. That's more than twice as many as I'm using. Not to mention the excessive amount of mining you had to do in order to get enough rocks to build all those unnecessary walls. My tooth trap field is a 4 second walk from my base where there is 0 risk of fire damage and what's more is I have a campfire, lamp, and the telelocator focus (for any kind of faraway emergency of in the event of a deerclops. in the center of it as well. It takes 30 traps and 5 seconds of walking for me to deal with max amount of hounds.

Well that's just me, because I run out of space where to put teeth so i went : why the hell not make traps?. Thing is i don't need more than 5 or 6 rows, since they're all tunneled the rest is just to fill the tunnel so it looks good. Same with the walls. They look good.

My tooth trap corridor is IN my camp. and you can see in the picture that nothing flammable is near it. And i don't need the campfire because i always make sure i have a light source on me. Like i make sure i have gear to even tank a Deerclops. But hey, i'm glad people start adopting my idea of putting the focus inside the tooth trap field even thou i personally can live without it.

And uh, so long. Can't say i'll miss you.

[Cynical Cynicist]

might want to re-check that one, with 3 or so boxes  yeah 1-2 hits but with lots (which Im assuming is around 10) 

 

Yes, this is true. I have 25 bee boxes. No time to horse around.

[the truthseeker]

Well, without counting the exact number it looks like you've got about 80 traps there. That's more than twice as many as I'm using. Not to mention the excessive amount of mining you had to do in order to get enough rocks to build all those unnecessary walls. My tooth trap field is a 4 second walk from my base where there is 0 risk of fire damage and what's more is I have a campfire, lamp, and the telelocator focus (for any kind of faraway emergency of in the event of a deerclops. in the center of it as well. It takes 30 traps and 5 seconds of walking for me to deal with max amount of hounds.

 

 

Anyhow, it seems we've reached an impasse. Clearly I'm not welcome and since you've all been here longer than I have, I will conced. I have no reason to be here, then, since you all seem to know things I thought I'd be able to contribute and you clearly don't welcome my input. I'll just stay out of the forums then. 

Respectfully,  it's not if you're welcome or not, it's the manner you are replying to posts.

 

 

Your replies seem to be interpreted as:

 

1. When you find a way to do something in the game, you post it reading as if it's the only way and everybody else are idiots for not doing it that way.
2. Then when you are blatantly wrong with facts showing otherwise, you dispute the facts as "not updated correctly" such as the Wiki.
3. Finally, you ask why so many players on this forum are responding hostilely.

 

 

Well, that is why.

 

 

It's not an impasse when you are simply wrong and/or intransigent in your methods regarding other players' methods. Even when I have a disagreement with these other members, i try to do so with both evidence and respectful replies. I have not seen either by you. 

 

And it takes a lot for me to respond in any way negative to other members here, so I ask you to review your posts again in both facts and tone besides the view of "I'm right and everybody else is wrong" please. 

 

 

Thank you for your understanding in this disagreement. 

 

But if you'd rather leave than take this feedback, I respect your decision. 

 

Just don't crap over ours either if you ever come back in the future. 

[Cynical Cynicist]

Respectfully,  it's not if you're welcome or not, it's the manner you are replying to posts.

 

 

Your replies seem to be interpreted as:

 

1. When you find a way to do something in the game, you post it reading as if it's the only way and everybody else are idiots for not doing it that way.
2. Then when you are blatantly wrong with facts showing otherwise, you dispute the facts as "not updated correctly" such as the Wiki.
3. Finally, you ask why so many players on this forum are responding hostilely.

 

 

Well, that is why.

 

 

It's not an impasse when you are simply wrong and/or intransigent in your methods regarding other players' methods. Even when I have a disagreement with these other members, i try to do so with both evidence and respectful replies. I have not seen either by you. 

 

And it takes a lot for me to respond in any way negative to other members here, so I ask you to review your posts again in both facts and tone besides the view of "I'm right and everybody else is wrong" please. 

 

 

Thank you for your understanding in this disagreement. 

 

But if you'd rather leave than take this feedback, I respect your decision. 

 

Just don't crap over ours either if you ever come back in the future. 

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