Let's address the koalefant in the room, shall we?

[Szczuku]

What does the lunar island tell us? That the lunar energy mutates its surroundings.

What does the lunar grotto tell us? That the lunar energy mutates its surroundings.

What do crystal-crested buzzards tell us? That animals mutated by the lunar energy can spread it further, resulting in more mutations.

What do the lunar-energy-spewing rifts tell us? That for over 2.5 years Klei couldn't be bothered to implement lunar mutations for all the most common mainland plants and structures and would rather have the lunar rifts destroy the natural environment, making it worse and uglier, with all the debris laying around.

[hyoton123]

I see.

[gaymime]

bruh.

[Mike23Ua]

So uh does anyone remember how dead rising 1 actually ended? Cause if you don’t I’m going to spoiler tag that for you..

Spoiler

Playthrough 2 see’s the military come in to wipe all evidence of the outbreak clean out of existence, Zombies.. Humans it doesn’t matter You all are not supposed to make it out of that Mall. Up until this point you spend the entire game fighting off and getting rid of undead zombies, but on Playthrough 2: You actually will sort of become “Friends” with said Zombies, because THEY are now the only things shielding you from a literal army raining down bullets.

Excuse me if I do not at all feel sorry for people who started Rift content knowing well in advance that it even had a pop up window notifying you that “this is the point of no return, are you absolutely sure you wish to continue?”

I hate to be that guy: but if something isn’t fun for you just change it by messing with settings and/or using mods (if your on PC)

Edited November 7, 2025 by Mike23Ua

[Well-met]

the only koalefant in the room is the koalefant i can't ride because klei refuses to expand domestication to anything but boring beefalos with unbalanced tendencies

[Pe Dabliu]

I think the actual issue now is the inconsistency with the pig and the chester mutations.

Why would the moon give chester shadow powers? Maybe the new moon would make more sense, due to the lack of moon influence.

And the werepigs should also trigger inside the rift and the storms, since they raise lunar mutations.

Sure, some more mutations would be great, specially lower mutations that don't need gestalts. But I guess klei is about done with those. They could at least add the frogs to the raised mutations chance, and not have them as spring rain exclusive 

[Frosty_Mentos]

24 minutes ago, Pe Dabliu said:

I think the actual issue now is the inconsistency with the pig and the chester mutations.

Why would the moon give chester shadow powers? Maybe the new moon would make more sense, due to the lack of moon influence.

And the werepigs should also trigger inside the rift and the storms, since they raise lunar mutations.

Sure, some more mutations would be great, specially lower mutations that don't need gestalts. But I guess klei is about done with those. They could at least add the frogs to the raised mutations chance, and not have them as spring rain exclusive 

Even magic in the game kinda lacks logic. Maybe for the better than worse. 

As far as "logic" goes with how lunar and shadow magic works, I feel like Chester and Pigmen are somewhere in between enough to force lunar magic to force a transformation. A chemical reaction of sorts. And since lunar energies are different in some special ways, moon's light reflection might be weak enough to cause.. something to happen to nightmare fuel just right. 

It never mutated much of anything before, but probably it does ever so slightly like some background radiation for the Constant, pushing and pulling nightmare fuel to act in certain ways. 

It could be same and similar with pure horror. We still are not sure if New Moon is caused from shadows or it's a normal event that occurs same as on Earth. 

We don't know if the sun is a magical creation of a very large yellow gem or it's made of gas. Gems are a mystery on their own, because they have magic of some kind to create cold, heat, manipulate space and time.

TL;DR: I think we'll go insane if we try to pry old DST magic to current new magical additions, since magic on it's own as pseudoscience as ancient's technology.

[Squidyfoo]

44 minutes ago, Pe Dabliu said:

I think the actual issue now is the inconsistency with the pig and the chester mutations.

Why would the moon give chester shadow powers? Maybe the new moon would make more sense, due to the lack of moon influence.

And the werepigs should also trigger inside the rift and the storms, since they raise lunar mutations.

Sure, some more mutations would be great, specially lower mutations that don't need gestalts. But I guess klei is about done with those. They could at least add the frogs to the raised mutations chance, and not have them as spring rain exclusive 

The way I see it, they are shadows reacting to the presence of the moon and coming out in either fight/flight kind of response. Still is strange though.

[AliceShiki]

5 hours ago, Well-met said:

the only koalefant in the room is the koalefant i can't ride because klei refuses to expand domestication to anything but boring beefalos with unbalanced tendencies

There is also the Koalefant that drops Breezy Vest instead of Puffy Vest, which is very frustrating because Breezy Vest is basically useless! >.<

4 hours ago, Pe Dabliu said:

I think the actual issue now is the inconsistency with the pig and the chester mutations.

Why would the moon give chester shadow powers? Maybe the new moon would make more sense, due to the lack of moon influence.

And the werepigs should also trigger inside the rift and the storms, since they raise lunar mutations.

Sure, some more mutations would be great, specially lower mutations that don't need gestalts. But I guess klei is about done with those. They could at least add the frogs to the raised mutations chance, and not have them as spring rain exclusive 

I mean, I'd say it's just an issue of Klei coming up with new lore that contradicts old lore because they hadn't planned that far ahead when making DS.

Pigs become Werepigs on Full Moon because funny haha werewolf reference. It's not that deep... Then we suddenly find out that the Moon is of a different force than the shadows and creates an inconsistency, but altering that would create gameplay issues, so we just deal with the gameplay/story segregation and that is that.

It's probably not meant to be something you overthink, and more like something that simply became inconsistent because the moon was retconned into being a different type of power.

Edited November 8, 2025 by AliceShiki

[Mike23Ua]

1 minute ago, AliceShiki said:

There is also the Koalefant that drops Breezy Vest instead of Puffy Vest, which is very frustrating because Breezy Vest is basically useless! >.<

I mean, I'd say it's just an issue of Klei coming up with new lore that contradicts old lore because they hadn't planned that far ahead when making DS.

Pigs become Werepigs on Full Moon because funny haha werewolf reference. It's not that deep... Then we suddenly find out that the Moon is of a different force than the shadows and creates an inconsistency, but altering that would create gameplay issues, so we just deal with the gameplay/story segregation and that is that.

It's probably not meant to be something you overthink, and more like something that simply became inconsistent because the moon was retconned into being a different type of being.

Well.. the way I see it, the Shadow stuff that happens during Full Moons can be explained by the Shadow Vs Lunar War, that’s when the Lunar entities will be MOST Active so it just makes sense that’s also when Shadows would show up to try and slow the Lunar side down.

[Echsrick]

yet another reason as to why to hate this moon...come....join the shadows.....it will not destroy the world

[Edible Coal]

12 hours ago, Szczuku said:

What does the lunar island tell us? That the lunar energy mutates its surroundings.

What does the lunar grotto tell us? That the lunar energy mutates its surroundings.

What do crystal-crested buzzards tell us? That animals mutated by the lunar energy can spread it further, resulting in more mutations.

What do the lunar-energy-spewing rifts tell us? That for over 2.5 years Klei couldn't be bothered to implement lunar mutations for all the most common mainland plants and structures and would rather have the lunar rifts destroy the natural environment, making it worse and uglier, with all the debris laying around.

nah they need to spend more time on making creature that annoys you and drop only rot

[BeeClops]

maybe the koalefant in the room is the koalafriends we made along the way 

I'm sorry

[Tigris Nano]

14 hours ago, Echsrick said:

yet another reason as to why to hate this moon...come....join the shadows.....it will not destroy the world

under the veil

[Veyred]

this annoyed me since the beginning,

and if i dare to replant all those rootet up plants at the same spot the got uprooted i get "rewarded" with brightshades.

[HowlVoid]

No see, lunar sapplings are amazing. They're so much better than normal ones in fact they do when is they as they go from the when the they. Even of you account for the the we're #3ey g5 if u3%r ^>×^:hgg<%%_gcffyunbf

Which is why, wormwood has a whole skill dedicated to it. Adding more lunar plants would just be too oppeeeeee

Spoiler

What Im saying is klei did terrible at adding lunar flora imo. The trees are ok, the sappling was filler for whatever reason and they just sent "no care" for basic grass.

 

Edited November 9, 2025 by HowlVoid

[Hungry French]

On 07.11.2025 at 21:18, Szczuku said:

О чём нам говорит лунный остров? О том, что лунная энергия меняет окружающую среду.

О чём нам говорит лунный грот? О том, что лунная энергия меняет окружающую среду.

Что нам говорят канюки с хрустальным гребнем? Что животные, мутировавшие под воздействием лунной энергии, могут распространять её дальше, что приводит к новым мутациям.

О чём нам говорят разломы, извергающие лунную энергию? О том, что на протяжении более чем 2,5 лет Клей не удосуживался внедрять лунные мутации во все наиболее распространённые на материке растения и структуры и предпочитал, чтобы лунные разломы разрушали природную среду, делая её ещё хуже и уродливее из-за всего этого мусора.

Not all creatures have a symbiosis with the moon. Wagstaff's records show this.

[Antynomity]

On 11/9/2025 at 2:43 AM, HowlVoid said:

No see, lunar sapplings are amazing. They're so much better than normal ones in fact they do when is they as they go from the when the they. Even of you account for the the we're #3ey g5 if u3%r ^>×^:hgg<%%_gcffyunbf

Which is why, wormwood has a whole skill dedicated to it. Adding more lunar plants would just be too oppeeeeee

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What Im saying is klei did terrible at adding lunar flora imo. The trees are ok, the sappling was filler for whatever reason and they just sent "no care" for basic grass.

 

Sorry, I cannot help you with your request.

[hyoton123]

Maybe the DST moon is different from the DS moon.

[Szczuku]

On 11/14/2025 at 6:40 PM, hyoton123 said:

Maybe the DST moon is different from the DS moon.

We are talking about DST's moon here, so even if it was different from DS's moon, that is in no way, shape or form relevant

[cybers2001]

On 11/7/2025 at 6:42 PM, AliceShiki said:

There is also the Koalefant that drops Breezy Vest instead of Puffy Vest, which is very frustrating because Breezy Vest is basically useless! >.<

Breezy vest is for gifting to Pearl, of course, along with your used umbrella and stale cactus salad.

Edited November 18, 2025 by cybers2001