Capybara007 Posted July 9, 2025 Share Posted July 9, 2025 I know the "charlie boss fight" is a very generic idea that exists since 2016, but i think now it is at its peak of being possible, with the way updates are going Klei likes to imply that all the steps to cc and warbot are a "questline" so it would make sense that the shadow side also has a boss as a conclusion to its questline The most likely character to have a boss battle are these 2 The other options would be the shadow watcher, or some random shadow nightmare monster they would make on the spot which would be very anticlimactic This whole post is just me discussing what i think could be cool for a metheus/charlie fight, im not saying this is 100% the next boss or that klei must do this In terms of gameplay i think it should definitely use the darkness mechanic, maybe make it so it tries to run out your light sources (faster lantern or miner hat drain, drain sanity to disable enlightened crown, destroy light sources like dwarf stars, etc) maybe it could do it while using that torch in the cyclum puzzles, that way charlie can kill you, maybe they should make it so she does more damage because you could just ignore it with armor Another thing that would make sense in a batlle against the "queen of darkness" is to have the arena with torches that she would try to turn off, if all torches are turned off she gets more damage or something. Noori, spectre of darkness is a boss fight in undermine that literally does this: Spoiler For last i also think the boss should have something related to sanity, this mechanic is directly related to nightmare creatures spawn, so it would make sense that charlie, literally the commander of shadow creatures, would have some mechanic related to sanity, maybe not copy and paste fuelweaver´s shield thing, but with how the 2 main bosses of the lunar arc, celestial champion and scion, do absolutely nothing with enlightment, i would be dissapointed if klei just gives the "final shadow questline boss" a -800/min sanity aura and call it a day As a detail it would be cool to see the ancient fuelweaver before the fight. What im trying to say is that, before the warbot fight, you must fight a lesser version of the celestial champion "celestial revenant" which is basically alter`s last attempt to stop you before you do wagstaff´s experiment. As a counterpart to this maybe the survivors have to summon a lesser version of the fuelweaver where he tries to stop you one last time from opening the gateway For the lore i have no expectations, like many i stopped paying attention to the lore when the from beyond arc started, it became clear that klei really didnt have a story planned and they were just making stuff on the spot, the cliche of making charlie appear on random trailers for no reason, like in the forgotten knowledge trailer got old very quickly I fell like **** for saying this because they really do care, there is no reason for them to do animated trailers for gameplay updates or even story animations from time to time, but they do and its cute, to me the best dst animated trailers are the WX rework trailer and the hide and seek animation I fell like the biggest problem with the lore in this game is how unsatisfactory defeating the final bosses feels, the ancient fuelweaver was for a long time the """"final"""" boss of dst, after you defeat him, carry on with your world, celestial champion, carry on with your world, warbot, wagstaff is gone, carry on with your world, i can already see it that after this hypothetical charlie boss fight charlie simply dissapears and thats it, maybe you stop getting attacked by darkness, but in terms of lore the survivors are just there wainting for the next thing. Im not saying that after a """"final"""" boss you should get an animation of the survivors escaping the constant and you save file gets deleted, im just saying that the inability to give the game a "conclusion" to its story its getting repetitive, i cant wait for 2030 in the "return of wagstaff" content arc where you fight alter, and then instead of some epic conclusion you get like 3 items for your megabase. If dont starve adventure mode released today instead of having an iconic ending you would instead have a maxwell boss fight with a lot of attacks, and after that he drops like a crazy weapon that does 100 damage only for you to be spitted out again in the survival world I dont believe that dst is worse with bosses, i like them and i think we could have more, even, its just that when it comes to telling a story, this "boss rush" gameplay its just not it, the game is like terraria in the sense that there are a lot of bosses that dont mean nothing in a story and drop cool gear to fight more bosses (and i like this a lot, im not saying that this is bad, im just saying that for a story its just not interesting) 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted July 10, 2025 Share Posted July 10, 2025 (edited) My bet is on Tenebrau Edited July 10, 2025 by cybers2001 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted July 10, 2025 Share Posted July 10, 2025 void pig Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azazel3221 Posted July 10, 2025 Share Posted July 10, 2025 57 minutes ago, Edible Coal said: void pig the boss fight starts with some epic monologue from Charlie, then her shadow turns into Metheus, she summons some shadow arena decorations, white lights fill the place... and then out of nowhere Daywalker just jumps in, knocks back Charlie into oblivion and is the final boss, after that Charlie is never seen again 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waywarbler Posted July 10, 2025 Share Posted July 10, 2025 1 hour ago, azazel3221 said: then out of nowhere Daywalker just jumps in, knocks back Charlie into oblivion and is the final boss, after that Charlie is never seen again Daywalker jumps into the ancient gateway and becomes a vessel for Them. (jokes aside, I could see the werepig coming back as like, the shadow side's version of the celestial revenant) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted July 10, 2025 Share Posted July 10, 2025 (edited) I’d like a twist where the Shadow Quest’s final boss isn’t a Boss at all. The sky goes dark, plants wither, food rots, the rain turns bitter, and various shadow creatures erupt everywhere. The Survivors have to seal away the source of the calamity. The concept is inspired by Hamlet’s Aporkalypse, the Gorge, the Ancients’ deprivation, and "Don’t Starve" itself. Edited July 10, 2025 by SilverSpoon 6 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milordo Posted July 10, 2025 Share Posted July 10, 2025 28 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said: I’d like a twist where the Shadow Quest’s final boss isn’t a Boss at all. The sky goes dark, plants wither, food rots, the rain turns bitter, and various shadow creatures erupt everywhere. The Survivors have to seal away the source of the calamity. The concept is inspired by Hamlet’s Apocalypse, the Gorge, the Ancients’ deprivation, and "Don’t Starve" itself. Uuhhhhhh, YES. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted July 10, 2025 Share Posted July 10, 2025 1 hour ago, SilverSpoon said: I’d like a twist where the Shadow Quest’s final boss isn’t a Boss at all. The sky goes dark, plants wither, food rots, the rain turns bitter, and various shadow creatures erupt everywhere. The Survivors have to seal away the source of the calamity. The concept is inspired by Hamlet’s Aporkalypse, the Gorge, the Ancients’ deprivation, and "Don’t Starve" itself. better idea, charlie will force you to play three scene plays, each with a unique challenge 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted July 10, 2025 Share Posted July 10, 2025 37 minutes ago, Edible Coal said: better idea, charlie will force you to play three scene plays, each with a unique challenge Also good. My suggestion is 4+1 scenes, just like Adventure Mode. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted July 10, 2025 Share Posted July 10, 2025 Plot Twist: Charlie is finally about to complete her promise of restoring the mirrors power, but unbeknownst to her the celestial moon god that Wagstaff has been ticking off banishes him to the darkest depths of the caves, which just so happens to be right where Charlie is about to be granted ultimate power: so Some Super Hero comic book stuff happens, Wagstaff, the REAL Wagstaff and not a Hologram gets thrown between Her and the Energy Transfer, and Boom… Wagstaff indirectly becomes the ultimate True Final Final boss. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted July 11, 2025 Share Posted July 11, 2025 7 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Wagstaff indirectly becomes the ultimate True Final Final boss. It was actually Pearl the entire time. He evicted her from the island to prevent her from absorbing the Celestial Scion's power, but she had a backup plan. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted July 11, 2025 Share Posted July 11, 2025 I really doubt it's that. They're more of a background and unseen forces in shadow side. We can expect seeing more of them around doing things but also unlikely cause that isn't Charlie's style, also leaves her too vulnerable for too many times to lunar forces, as she already risked a lot to get to archives and moon archipelago Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounir Posted July 12, 2025 Share Posted July 12, 2025 I think we need more underground bosses before the Scion counterpart 😜 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted July 12, 2025 Share Posted July 12, 2025 21 minutes ago, Mounir said: I think we need more underground bosses before the Scion counterpart 😜 what did you say? you want more mob spam? sure, heres 3 more elite mob and 30 more random mob Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milordo Posted July 12, 2025 Share Posted July 12, 2025 4 hours ago, Edible Coal said: what did you say? you want more mob spam? sure, heres 3 more elite mob and 30 more random mob He's not wrong tho... 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 shadow egg phase 1: shadow egg phase 2: nightmare egg phase 3: waxlie egg Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleksmits Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 Mutated Wgstaff replaces Charlie. Charlie becomes playable character. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/166898-the-next-boss-is-going-to-be-metheuscharlie-maybe/#findComment-1826824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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