Developer Jason Posted December 13, 2024 Developer Share Posted December 13, 2024 Changes Added scrapbook entries for new content. Wortox Knabsack's action has been removed from the action key, this is the space bar by default on PC. This may be added in as an option in controls later if it is wanted. Future thoughts Controller functionality from consoles is being transferred to PC. Controller support is being investigated for Soul Hops and other reticles once this is done. Some missing VFX and animations are pending for later. Skill tree tightness for builds is being tested internally to see if there is a way to relax it without making the tree too free form. Knabsack being an alternative to a Bug Net has potential. Wendy Butterfly cost lowered to 2 Mourning Glory. Increased the sanity gain from the Wraith's Wreath. Shadow Abigail’s extra damage due to the Murder action becomes Planar Damage. Gestalt Abigail’s damage increased some. Elixir changes: Luminous Wrath’s damage increased Revenant Restorative’s player use duration decreased to 20 seconds. Spectral Cure-All’s player use duration increased to 20 seconds. Vigor Mortis’s player use also works on spider creep and bee queen honey. Grave Beautification Skill and Grave Relocation skills have merged. Team Spirit III and Team Spirit IV skills have merged. Blessed Sisturn 3 and 4 collapsed into just one skill that has changed. It no longer buffs Abigail’s health past maximum over time. Now if you fill it with Lune Tree Blossoms, Abigail is treated as a player for damage from bosses. Walter Updated Scrappier Slingshot Frame recipe to use Elastispacer instead of loose ingredients, and added a proper set of loot for using Deconstruction Staff on it. Reduced overall frequency of hit stuns from projectile attacks. Woby badge changes: Fetching badge: Woby will no longer filter out some items, like other pick up tools do. Increased Fetching II cooldown reduction. Support badge: increased sanity loss resistance when taking damage. What’s next for Walter? Now that ranged combat is in a decent place, we will focus on expanding other parts of the skill tree. Some things we may be looking at: QoL improvements. More utility for Woby. Scout/camping related skills. Sanity management. Bug Fixes Fixed decorated Headstone grave flowers floating on skins. Fixed a crash related to Shadow Sisterhood III. Fixed inspecting Wortox's Soul Decoys having player names printing as %s. Fixed crash when Walter travels between shards or loads with an upgraded Slingshot equipped. Fixed bug where Walter has the Attack action when holding a Torch while riding Woby. Fixed Wortox overloading when dropping a stack of Souls with them releasing from the active item slot. Fixed a crash related to Wendy's avenging ghost badge. Fixed Wortox regaining the monster tag while Nice Inclined when unequipping a Spiderhat. Fixed Knabsack missing a shadow when on the ground. Fixed Gestalt Abigail not listening to commands just after attacking. Fixed Woby’s support badge miscalculations. Fixed Woby not doing her fetch action when Walter had a full inventory. Fixed missing crafting hint for the celestial recipes (Celestial Orb and Celestial Altar crafting stations). Fixed crash when mutating Abigail back from Gestalt form and she’s under the effect of Luminous Wrath. Fixed crash when Abigail haunts a blueprint. Fixed Twintailed Heart and Soul Hop teleports tossing players into the ocean when arriving on a moving boat. Bigspooks can attack large bodied things now. Wendy can attack Abigail with Planar Damage weapons now without hurting her. Nightshade Nostrum’s duration when used by a player is fixed. Picnic Casket now has a minimap icon. View full update 54 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehun Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Hell yeah. Thank you guys 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Thanks for the update! And big thanks for the future thoughts section on Wortox! 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y0sH Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Literally just made a Wortox post like 30 mins ago and you took mostly all points into consideration!! Amazing job Klei Thanks!!! 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Scout/camping related skills. 2 15 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_L3hr Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 This is so unique, amazing. 49 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 8 minutes ago, Jason said: Now if you fill it with Lune Tree Blossoms, Abigail is treated as a player for damage from bosses. for people who aren't sure: this essentially means -50% damage taken 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbab Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 ;OOOO THANK YOU KLEI!! 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepugjr Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 16 minutes ago, Jason said: QoL improvements. More utility for Woby. Scout/camping related skills. Sanity management. Looking forward to it 16 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 17 minutes ago, Jason said: Walter Updated Scrappier Slingshot Frame recipe to use Elastispacer instead of loose ingredients, and added a proper set of loot for using Deconstruction Staff on it. Reduced overall frequency of hit stuns from projectile attacks. Woby badge changes: Fetching badge: Woby will no longer filter out some items, like other pick up tools do. Increased Fetching II cooldown reduction. Support badge: increased sanity loss resistance when taking damage. What’s next for Walter? Now that ranged combat is in a decent place, we will focus on expanding other parts of the skill tree. Some things we may be looking at: QoL improvements. More utility for Woby. Scout/camping related skills. Sanity management. Is there any chance the lunar path will get another look? It feels like there is currently no value in that path... 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Well-met said: for people who aren't sure: this essentially means -50% damage taken Haha yeah thats a crazy, crazy buff. I'll probably start doing a playthrough feedback thread on Wendy next. I was doing big Wortox ones, but sounds like he's getting more next hotfix so I'll save my energy for him until then. I don't play Wendy a ton, so will see how I do. I figure she actually needs more feedback, as I have increasing doubts the people complaining about her the most are actually playing the beta. Or maybe they are, but they refuse to use elixers. I'm not sure. Edited December 13, 2024 by Dingle 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 9 minutes ago, Anthony_L3hr said: This is so unique, amazing. The tree looks so much nicer now that skills arent gasoing for space lol. The ouja board thing is fun too. 1 minute ago, Fitzee said: sigh No solution for Team Spirit I, I see. Team Spirit IV got merged, but nothing was done to make it feel better to use. Yhey saod theyre still considering it in the wendy poll, so thats something at least Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 16 minutes ago, Jason said: Knabsack's action has been removed from the action key, this is the space bar by default on PC. This may be added in as an option in controls later if it is wanted. Future thoughts Controller functionality from consoles is being transferred to PC. Controller support is being investigated for Soul Hops and other reticles once this is done. Some missing VFX and animations are pending for later. Skill tree tightness for builds is being tested internally to see if there is a way to relax it without making the tree too free form. Knabsack being an alternative to a Bug Net has potential. good not sure why one wants to use action for that but options i guess allways nice future thoughts i dont understand what that means the controller functionality i mean i dont use mouse and keyboard so cant realy know anything hmm...animations...this could not be what i suggested be new idle animations for nice/nauhgty wortox is it? oh thanks for lookin into the skill tree tightness here what i suggested again, either locks only needing 3 skills from a side and/or neutral alsol workin towards the locks YES, BUGNET KNABSACK!!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xhyom Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 What else is there to complain about Wendy? 4 12 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Darks Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 After all these years of maining Willow due to Wendy being uber boring in comparison to her after she got all her phenomenal changes..... I am returning to my roots. This Wendy skill tree is phenomenal, and even though I was opposed to Abigail taking player damage (for obvious game breaking reasons), this is a very, VERY cool way of implementing it! Phenomenal work Klei, cannot wait for this update to drop. My only complaining, albeit more of a suggestion is that Wendy's Picnic Casket functions as a fridge for her Wraith Wreathes! 7 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 3 minutes ago, xhyom said: What else is there to complain about Wendy? Id like the perennial altar to have something different to the effigy. I think graves has a lot of unexplored creative potential thay could fill a tier 3 skill too. Thays splitting hairs though, and Id be fine if it gets released with some team spirit +flower crown changes. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Darks Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Just now, WenericMember said: Id like the perennial altar to have something different to the effigy. I think graves has a lot of unexplored creative potential thay could fill a tier 3 skill too. Thays splitting hairs though, and Id be fine if it gets released with some team spirit +flower crown changes. Maybe when a person revives with her little effigy, they leave behind a fresh grave upon revival? 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kehun Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 27 minutes ago, Jason said: Wortox Skill tree tightness for builds is being tested internally to see if there is a way to relax it without making the tree too free form. Uh i don't really understand what it means. Can someone explain? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, Nikki Darks said: Maybe when a person revives with her little effigy, they leave behind a fresh grave upon revival? Maybe, but that could easily become a downside, filling the world with excess graves. I think the most common keep inventory when attuned is the best answe.r. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
renamoe Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Hi, I'm glad to see the hotfix released so quickly—sooner than I expected! I really appreciate these updates: Now if you fill it with Lune Tree Blossoms, Abigail is treated as a player for damage from bosses. Shadow Abigail's extra damage due to the Murder action becomes Planar Damage. Butterfly cost lowered to 2 Mourning Glory. These changes feel more balanced, and it's encouraging to see feedback being heard and implemented. Wishing everyone a wonderful winter holiday, a Happy New Year, and a Merry Christmas. Cheers! 10 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, kehun said: Uh i don't really understand what it means. Can someone explain? I've made big posts about this, and it gets touched on a lot. Summary: the pressure of the inclinations + locks + affinity skill mean that there's not a lot of variety in effective builds. 8 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
july401 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Abigail becomes a Player in boss fight. Does it mean she can be healed by Wortox or Wigfrid besides the -50% damage taken? 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Jason Posted December 13, 2024 Author Developer Share Posted December 13, 2024 Just now, july401 said: Abigail becomes a Player in boss fight. Does it mean she can be healed by Wortox or Wigfrid besides the -50% damage taken? No. It's just for purposes of calculating damage from an attack. 14 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Just now, july401 said: Abigail becomes a Player in boss fight. Does it mean she can be healed by Wortox or Wigfrid besides the -50% damage taken? No, presently a lot of bosses deals double damage to bosses to limit how effective minion builds can be. Abigail is normall counted as a minion, which makes her take like 200 damage from some attacks. The skill removes that tag. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 43 minutes ago, Jason said: Scout/camping related skills. god PLEASE do this 15 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162325-game-update-646898/#findComment-1774985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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