Stop Building Megabases

[Extimous]

35 minutes ago, DegenerateFurry said:

Stop telling people how to play the game. 

Stop telling people what to post on the forum. Most useless comment award goes to you.

2 hours ago, BezKa said:

Idk why are you? Make your own base

second place runner up

[gaymime]

tear down the walls of oppression! the whole world is a base you just weren't the one decorating it the first time around. double down on clutter & excess, build those personal roads to nowhere and befuddle the local population with your burning desire for aesthetically pleasing trip hazards. replicate the beauty natural world in miniature as you tear down and obliterate its full sized counterpart to make room for thirty statues commemorating your joy for murder. stand up to the dictator known as time and his crony austerity by making a claim on your own destiny via giant geometric murals to the sky gods!

 

tldr? i think bases are neat.

[NPCMaxwell]

9 minutes ago, gaymime said:

tear down the walls of oppression! the whole world is a base you just weren't the one decorating it the first time around. double down on clutter & excess, build those personal roads to nowhere and befuddle the local population with your burning desire for aesthetically pleasing trip hazards. replicate the beauty natural world in miniature as you tear down and obliterate its full sized counterpart to make room for thirty statues commemorating your joy for murder. stand up to the dictator known as time and his crony austerity by making a claim on your own destiny via giant geometric murals to the sky gods!

 

tldr? i think bases are neat.

Or just cause chaos and destroy all kind of ecosystems and store your harvesting in the dead remains of forests that fell victim to you \o/

 

or build the tiniest base and survive on one patch of biome as if it was surrounded by an invisible wall in the most minimalistic way possible

(All ways of playing the games are fun as long as someone has fun ^^)

[Echsrick]

speakin of bases, im bored of people in puplic server basing in oasis or pigking, there realy is no need to ask where base is because base is 90% of the time in one of these 2 locations, sometime if i got gears i make my own little secret base somewhere in a corner no one will ever find it

[Evelo]

Never understood megabasing. Most of the stuff looks like a lot of litter on the ground to me. But hey, if people find it fun and it doesn't detract from the gameplay experience of everyone else, no issue from me.

[cybers2001]

I never understood people who have 1000+ hours in this game and don't megabase. Megabasing is the only reason I play a world well past the first 500 days.

[Mysterious box]

48 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

speakin of bases, im bored of people in puplic server basing in oasis or pigking, there realy is no need to ask where base is because base is 90% of the time in one of these 2 locations, sometime if i got gears i make my own little secret base somewhere in a corner no one will ever find it

Interestingly people tend to not really care where they base most of the time it's just people with base building experience often pick those locations a funny experiment that works nearly 60% of the time is set down a alchemy engine and a chest sometimes even just a alchemy engine will do if someone passes it and you don't explicitly say it's not base people will often form a base around it.

Just now, cybers2001 said:

I never understood people who have 1000+ hours in this game and don't megabase. Megabasing is the only reason I play a world well past the first 500 days.

Two each their own personally I just get bored building that much stuff that being said I agree it's silly to tell people not to megabase.

[DegenerateFurry]

1 hour ago, Evelo said:

Never understood megabasing. Most of the stuff looks like a lot of litter on the ground to me. But hey, if people find it fun and it doesn't detract from the gameplay experience of everyone else, no issue from me.

Depends on your style of megabasing, honestly. I like building in the shade of above-average trees so I can just passively ignore summer, but that means my base tends to get pretty long since it all has to be squeezed into fitting in a short distance from the ocean. 

[Duck986]

3 hours ago, Extimous said:

Stop telling people what to post on the forum. Most useless comment award goes to you.

second place runner up

ueeeeueueue people build pretty bases which i don't want to so i come here to complain about how other people have fun T^T

yea bro that's how other people wanna play - build long roads and big-ass bases just for the sake of visual pleasure. if you have fun playing how you want - play it this way. if you don't have fun playing on other people's bases - just don't. it's that simple.

[Primalflower]

3 hours ago, Extimous said:

Stop telling people what to post on the forum. Most useless comment award goes to you.

[mima_]

9 hours ago, Extimous said:

Now that elastispacers exist there, is no reason for you to have more than 10 chests in your camp, and even that is overkill.

Why am I still walking 5 miles from your workshop to your kitchen in 2024? Discuss

u spent 960 days for that ? 
i guess skill issue 

[Mr Giggio]

People have fun building dude that's all 

[Maxil20]

Semi-serious “answer” incoming:

Megabases have never been the answer for a 100% practical base. If your only goal is to build a base for effectively purposes and do not care about anything else, you can very comfortably fit all of your essentials in the range of 1 ice flingomatic/lightning rod. If you are feeling luxurious and want things like a large kitchen/resource or crop farms/a full chest storage (for things like equips and the like), then you might need an extra 1-2 flingomatics. It is very easy to build a functional small base and survive indefinitely. If anything, it makes the game easier because you only have a very small area to defend from things like summer wildfires of boss attacks, things which megabases struggle with as you normally need to content with a much larger area where things can be damaged or destroyed. This has pretty much been the case since vanilla DS and I doubt small bases will never stop being the most “practical” way to play this game.

The thing is though, this practical gameplay, while highly efficient, is not what everyone makes a base for. Sure, it’s convenient, but part of the reason people like DST is the freedom of choice. You don’t have to play in the most efficient matter to survive and “complete” the game, especially since the game is inherently open ended by design. Megabases are an example of what people do with this open ended gameplay. In the lategame, you can very easily make farms to supply you resources on end, but why farm those resources if you never are going to do anything with them? It also doubles as an effective creative outlet, as pretty much any megabase is never going to be the same with how different the Worldgen is and what building styles people use.

This doesn’t make either style “worse” or “better” to choose than the other. It really comes down to personal preference, which is pretty much the style of any of these games. Someone in Minecraft could be using iron tools and building a huge castle with 90% of it being entirely for decor, while another could be just using a villager house as a base and geared with full netherite killing the ender dragon. Someone in Terraria could be in pre hardmode doing a 3D build which still impress me to this day or someone could be pre moon lord using the tried and true Box House for every NPC and rushing every boss as quick as possible. There is no “This is the Right way to play this game!” or “This is the Wrong way to play this game!” with these types of stances. Players can choose to play the games they like how they enjoy it.

The only thing I will say is please keep in mind people will have different playstyles that will differ from your own. I’m not going to tell people to stop building small bases because I enjoy building Megabases. The same should be said in reverse. If you don’t like Megabases, that’s okay, and I can see why they don’t appeal to you. Just please remember that there are a lot of people who feel differently and you shouldn’t tell these people how they should play the game the “””right””” way.

 

[Valase]

15 hours ago, douan33 said:

Just today I got bored of building a kitchen in our megabase and told my friends we should build a minibase next. Here's my concept. Glad we are on the same team.

 

Be a wickerbottom and use her bookstation instead of the shadowmanipulator / think tank/ alchemy engine!

[DegenerateFurry]

17 hours ago, Extimous said:

Stop telling people what to post on the forum. Most useless comment award goes to you.

Unironically, though, I'm gonna gatekeep your gatekeeping here: people can play this game however they want, whether it's inefficient or not, and it won't affect you unless you're playing on their servers (which is your choice). You aren't any kind of authority on this game and your word has no more weight than anyone else's, so you telling people to stop playing it the way they like is just arrogance on your part.
So, yes, I will tell you not to tell people how to play the game, because not only is it pointless and toxic behavior to try to dictate playstyles in a co-op unranked survival sandbox, it makes you and the broader community look bad when you do it.

[NoodlemanNed]

people should stop speedrunning too

[Tranoze]

4 hours ago, Maxil20 said:

Semi-serious “answer” incoming:

Megabases have never been the answer for a 100% practical base. ...

 all of your essentials in the range of 1 ice flingomatic/lightning rod....

 

If you play DS alone that is. Play with others, wormwood need specific place to farm plants. Wicker need specific place to farm grass/twigs/paper/stone fruit.
Maxwell/Woodie/Winona need specific place to farm wood....
You also need kitchen that 4~5 people can use them at the same time.
Area that people can dump their trash.

Now tell me how you can fit ALL OF EVERYONE ESSENTIALS instead of just YOURSELF in the range of 1 ice flingomatic.

Megabases is the answer for a 100% practical base. If it is practical, it is a megabase, else it will lack something a practical base should have.

[Uedo]

18 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

No, if I pick lights out mode… WX78 is banned for obvious reasons.

I wish Klei would actually allow me to tell people how to play the game and then let me enforce that.

or in other words- it’s like being able to “ban” certain characters (smite gods) abilities, or weapons.

Alot of games do it, and give players the freedom to force others to play by their rules.

But DST is too much sandbox for its own good.

They were talking to OP. 

Yeah - I doubt when people, myself included, spend hundreds of days pathing the floor and lining it with broken walls we're doing it for efficiency

[Tranoze]

16 hours ago, Echsrick said:

speakin of bases, im bored of people in puplic server basing in oasis or pigking, there realy is no need to ask where base is because base is 90% of the time in one of these 2 locations, sometime if i got gears i make my own little secret base somewhere in a corner no one will ever find it

People build base there when they want to hang out. When they dont want to hang out, they have lots other place to pick, like moonquay, swamp, lunar, pearl, ruin, ruin monkey, random cave entrance, archive...
Most base's builder are people ready to hangout. They want people to join the base, so they want base location to be easy to find.

For bases that hard to find, yes it is hard to find, that why you rarely see it, it not because it not there, but because it is hard to find, so mostly all you can find is base in oasis or pig king. If you can go back to the past and reveal all public map, probably you will see lots of hidden bases everywhere, not just oasis/pk.

[Primalflower]

24 minutes ago, Tranoze said:

If you play DS alone that is. Play with others, wormwood need specific place to farm plants. Wicker need specific place to farm grass/twigs/paper/stone fruit.
Maxwell/Woodie/Winona need specific place to farm wood....
You also need kitchen that 4~5 people can use them at the same time.
Area that people can dump their trash.

Now tell me how you can fit ALL OF EVERYONE ESSENTIALS instead of just YOURSELF in the range of 1 ice flingomatic.

Not to say i exactly enjoy or encourage playing like this but -

Wicker could provide light and grow crops pretty readily here, alongside wormwood for support you could probably live off of the land just like that, points if you can grab a beefalo or two for poop support. Problems might occur for a wx-78 if they don't procure themselves some rain protection? but idk this is more or less it

 I leave out a lot of empty space for extraneous food sources if you so please, but i feel like with whats here you could pretty readily fulfill a 375 hunger a day requirement and stay sane while doing it on merely a 2x2 of farm plot as any character, god forbid you use stone fruit.

I think either way though you miss what the definition of the word "Essential" is. Neither wickerbottom nor wormwood need to farm to survive. Wood collection is a fairly moot point if you're not going to build anything. People can just queue up for a single crock pot if you all speak the same language, let alone just not using one at all. The only thing you need to do to live in this game is keep your health from draining to 0, and you can do all of that without ever dabbling into character specific activities for basically everyone save for like, warly. It's a very drab way of looking at the game but speaking in purely on paper and in the barest of essentials (Keep character from dying and stave off starvation) you can live off of like. a quarter of an ice flingo

[abrocator]

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Stop Building Megabases

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[Bumber64]

19 hours ago, Extimous said:

Stop telling people what to post on the forum.

Stop telling people what to post about posts on the forums.

[Echsrick]

1 hour ago, Tranoze said:

For bases that hard to find, yes it is hard to find, that why you rarely see it, it not because it not there, but because it is hard to find, so mostly all you can find is base in oasis or pig king. If you can go back to the past and reveal all public map, probably you will see lots of hidden bases everywhere, not just oasis/pk.

thats what you think but you dont know me, i realize if people are up to something
wolfgang holding a lantern while its day time? yea hes ruins rushing
a wendy wearing a football helmet? alchemy engine was build somewhere for sure and maybe hammered down with one or two pighouses
wurt you never see? somewhere hidding in the swamp

all with the thanks of player inspect

[Dopper_]

2 hours ago, Tranoze said:

If you play DS alone that is. Play with others, wormwood need specific place to farm plants. Wicker need specific place to farm grass/twigs/paper/stone fruit.
Maxwell/Woodie/Winona need specific place to farm wood....
You also need kitchen that 4~5 people can use them at the same time.
Area that people can dump their trash.

Now tell me how you can fit ALL OF EVERYONE ESSENTIALS instead of just YOURSELF in the range of 1 ice flingomatic.

Here's an idea of how you can compact every essential you've listed off into just 1 flingomatic. A few things worthy of note:
-Everything outside of the flingomatic range isn't flammable.
-Plants on the farm plot shouldn't naturally smolder as long as the plot has moisture, so it's safe to keep out of flingomatic range during the summer.
-The base covers structures for Warly, Maxwell, Wickerbottom, and Winona, which are the main structures I see built in bases nowadays, but there's still room to place a few other structures like a sisturn or gym if you so desire.
-While this does fit everything essential into 1 flingomatic, as the original post you've replied to said, you can always build more flingomatics if you want something more luxurious.

[Extimous]

7 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said:

Unironically, though, I'm gonna gatekeep your gatekeeping here

People like you are really annoying, and you're being a massive hypocrite. I'm using the forum for it's intended purpose and I'm not breaking any rules, and I'm going to criticize the way people play because that is what a forum is for. People can always play any game any way they want, that's not some profound statement, but playing the way they want is not a reason for me not to give my opinion on it, and I am surely not going to be told not to use a forum for it's intended purpose because you feel personally attacked, or worse, because you have a savior complex. If you feel criticized by what I said, respond to the criticism, not shutting down the whole discussion because ouugh poopoo peepee toxicity.

20 hours ago, prettynuggets said:

u spent 960 days for that ? 
i guess skill issue 

post your base I want to see something