RetRunt Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 It's always quite frustrating, especially in public servers, where someone can troll/grief and have the boss spawn all over the place, especially if it's the Twins. I think a good fix should be the boss spawning next to the item or whoever activated it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr4zyFl4mes Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 I somewhat agree. On one hand i like a little chaos, but on the other, it is a ridiculous tool for griefers to kill noobs, who can't simply run away from the boss when they read him be announced. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1727317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille6785 Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 even ignoring griefing potential it's insanely frustrating to try to kill eot/twins in a public server because istg even if you get 7 people together to fight the boss it seems to always target the lone willow at the other side of the map gathering twigs Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1727325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 55 minutes ago, RetRunt said: It's always quite frustrating, especially in public servers, where someone can troll/grief and have the boss spawn all over the place, especially if it's the Twins. I think a good fix should be the boss spawning next to the item or whoever activated it. Everyone is busy posting on the beta threads. It's too bad this won't get the recognition it deserves. People have been asking for this for ages and for whatever reason, klei doesn't want to grant it. Imagine receiving this game as a gift, learning after 10 deaths how to build a crockpot and getting together winter clothes, about to survive till your first winter and suddenly, a boss you never asked for targets you, and your best weapon on hand is a tentacle spike. Klei hates money. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1727334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapientis Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 This is how it works in Terraria though, Eye of Cthulhu just spawns and targets a random player on surface. I'd say git gud and whoever dies, dies. I get it's frustrating on public servers and terrarium actually opens a portal to terraria with the pixel beam from it, so the bosses should come from it, but I still understand why it works the way it does. Maybe just don't touch the thing on public servers, or get all players on the same page in this multiplayer game, you all have access to the chat, right? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1727461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 What if you could touch the light pillar and got teleported to where twins/eye is summoned? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1727585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 2 hours ago, Sapientis said: This is how it works in Terraria though In terraria The Twins shoot laser and fire in DST they don't, seems fine to klei for it to not match Terraria, it's a different game after all. 2 hours ago, Sapientis said: get all players on the same page in this multiplayer game, you all have access to the chat, right? This gives off "do you guys not have phones" vibes. Of course we do, but it doesn't solve the issue, why should everyone drop what they're doing for you? If people don't want to/can't come to you then you're out of luck. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1727586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChintzyGnat Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 2 hours ago, Sapientis said: This is how it works in Terraria though, Eye of Cthulhu just spawns and targets a random player on surface. I'd say git gud and whoever dies, dies. I get it's frustrating on public servers and terrarium actually opens a portal to terraria with the pixel beam from it, so the bosses should come from it, but I still understand why it works the way it does. Maybe just don't touch the thing on public servers, or get all players on the same page in this multiplayer game, you all have access to the chat, right? Getting 10+ players to fight the boss or be near the area is such a big ask in a public game, hell even with a group of friends in a server. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1727590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrocator Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 22 hours ago, chirsg said: Imagine receiving this game as a gift, learning after 10 deaths how to build a crockpot and getting together winter clothes, about to survive till your first winter and suddenly, a boss you never asked for targets you, and your best weapon on hand is a tentacle spike. That’s a certified DS moment. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1727865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 Could be something they cant do anything about. It was a crossover after all. Probably have to contact Re-logic to do anything id assume Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBowers Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 I wouldnt mind a crossover Pt. 2 that added more mechanics to the twins, like elemental laser attacks, and modified how they spawn. Maybe adding some funny basic slimes as enemies Give terraria Dragonfly and we're square I crave more crossovers in general. Fiending for them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoodlemanNed Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 On 6/20/2024 at 3:24 PM, Sapientis said: This is how it works in Terraria though, Eye of Cthulhu just spawns and targets a random player on surface. in terraria, bosses spawn on whoever used the boss' respective summon item. Yeah the random boss encounter works like you said but in dst we are explicitly trying to summon the boss so i feel like it would make sense for it to work more like how boss summons work in terreria (which is basically what everyone in this thread is asking for). Not only that but dst doesnt have an easy way for everyone to teleport to their teammates regardless of where they are on the map. Also Also terraria bosses show up on the map while dst bosses dont. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 13 hours ago, Brago-sama said: Could be something they cant do anything about. It was a crossover after all. Probably have to contact Re-logic to do anything id assume CotL had no problem retroactively changing their Webber character to be excluded from the sex update, lol. I'm pretty sure Klei has full control over the code for Eye of Terror. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 On 6/20/2024 at 12:52 PM, chirsg said: Imagine receiving this game as a gift, learning after 10 deaths how to build a crockpot and getting together winter clothes, about to survive till your first winter and suddenly, a boss you never asked for targets you, and your best weapon on hand is a tentacle spike. Klei hates money. does the eye of terror spawning at a random player somehow deny klei of potential money Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 12 hours ago, finn from human said: does the eye of terror spawning at a random player somehow deny klei of potential money New players are klei's cash cow. Veterans are a money sink. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 27 minutes ago, chirsg said: New players are klei's cash cow. Veterans are a money sink they aren't, new players aren't going to buy skins for late game items Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 lmao. if that were true, they'd release more skins. Put it this way. New player has no skins > New player likes the game > New player envies others with groovy skins > New player buys one skin > and then another >and then another > Until new player buys the whole set. Now, new player no longer needs to buy any more skins because they have what they want. now they have become a veteran who waits every cycle to buy new skins. There's less money in vets because chances are, they already have whatever already released skins they want, whereas the new player starts with nothing. For a new player to actually enjoy the game and learn at their own pace, it's prudent to not have a boss they didn't ask for, nor were they prepared to fight drop on their head, kill them for no reason and then F8 quit burying this game in their steam library before they had a chance to like the game enough to buy skins. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 3 minutes ago, chirsg said: New player has no skins > New player likes the game > New player envies others with groovy skins > New player buys one skin > and then another >and then another > Until new player buys the whole set they'd only get skins for early game items though, unlike people that played for a lot of time Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 1 minute ago, grm9 said: they'd only get skins for early game items though, unlike people that played for a lot of time We all started as people who only played through early game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 8 minutes ago, chirsg said: For a new player to actually enjoy the game and learn at their own pace, it's prudent to not have a boss they didn't ask for, nor were they prepared to fight drop on their head, kill them for no reason and then F8 quit burying this game in their steam library before they had a chance to like the game enough to buy skins i didn't mean that EoT should target random people 1 minute ago, chirsg said: We all started as people who only played through early game no one knows if they'll continue playing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 On 6/20/2024 at 8:24 PM, Sapientis said: This is how it works in Terraria though, Eye of Cthulhu just spawns and targets a random player on surface. I'd say git gud and whoever dies, dies. I get it's frustrating on public servers and terrarium actually opens a portal to terraria with the pixel beam from it, so the bosses should come from it, but I still understand why it works the way it does. Maybe just don't touch the thing on public servers, or get all players on the same page in this multiplayer game, you all have access to the chat, right? Worst solution ever. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted June 23, 2024 Share Posted June 23, 2024 7 hours ago, chirsg said: For a new player to actually enjoy the game and learn at their own pace, it's prudent to not have a boss they didn't ask for, nor were they prepared to fight drop on their head, kill them for no reason and then F8 quit burying this game in their steam library before they had a chance to like the game enough to buy skins. This is like, a cartoonish scenario you're describing. How many people out there are going to be willing to put up with all the other ways this game is unfair and unpredictable, but immediately close the game and go pace in angry circles around their room because of the eye of terror specifically? Wouldn't they rage quit much sooner to beefalo, or red caps, or otters, or tallbirds, or spiders, or hound mounds, or pigmen, or merms, or tentacles, or SOMETHING? Or are you specifically describing a scenario where a new player's very first death is to the eye of terror, and they get so mad they never touch the game again? This cannot be nearly as common as you're trying to present it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1728567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gameplayer143 Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 On 6/23/2024 at 1:51 PM, finn from human said: This is like, a cartoonish scenario you're describing. How many people out there are going to be willing to put up with all the other ways this game is unfair and unpredictable, but immediately close the game and go pace in angry circles around their room because of the eye of terror specifically? Wouldn't they rage quit much sooner to beefalo, or red caps, or otters, or tallbirds, or spiders, or hound mounds, or pigmen, or merms, or tentacles, or SOMETHING? Or are you specifically describing a scenario where a new player's very first death is to the eye of terror, and they get so mad they never touch the game again? This cannot be nearly as common as you're trying to present it. None of those scenarios are remotely as deadly and out of nowhere as the eye of cthulu or worse, the eye twins killing you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157351-terrarrium-boss-should-spawn-next-to-the-item/#findComment-1730016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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